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>Gold $1,200 Silver $16.05 Platinum $1,210 Palladium $790 Dollar 89.30

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A Visual History Of Gold link provided by DJP333
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Gold Manipulation: The Logical Outcome Of Mainstream Economics
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Gold Manipulation: How They Do It (And How To Hedge It)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-26/guest-post-gold-man...
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Gold & Silver, Ron Paul: THE TRUTH
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How Governments will confiscate your GOLD!!!
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4 Must watch videos...NOTE:These videos give you a heads up of what is coming!
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Madness of a Lost Society (in 4 parts)
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The Day the Dollar died...
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Gold $5000 and Silver $200 an ounce...

Rob McEwen: Your readers need to appreciate: Gold is money. It is currency. I think the number of people familiar with gold will grow as people see gold as a currency. China, India, Russia are buying gold to diversify their foreign reserves. To restore the confidence in currencies, I think some central banks, such as the Chinese and possibly the Russian, will increase their gold holdings to the level that the percentage of their total currency will be greater than that of any other currency in the world. At that point, they will assert that their currency should become the reserve currency of the world.
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This thread was started 9/16/10 - here were the prices.

Submitted by SteveMT on Thu, 09/16/2010 - 11:51.

Metal Bid Ask
Gold $1,273.60
Silver $20.73
Platinum $1,602.50
Palladium $546.00

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DJP333's picture

"Rome fell when they debased the currency"

Derivative and gold expert Rob Kirby:

http://youtu.be/kid0ZIAngCs

http://usawatchdog.com/dollar-going-supernova-then-black-rob...

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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More commodity drama goings on...

World on brink of an oil price war

All eyes are now firmly focused on the next move by Opec, which controls 60 per cent of the world's oil reserves and about a third of daily physical supply. The group has been branded an unaccountable "cartel" by free-market critics in North America who claim its system of limiting production by setting an output ceiling and quotas is tantamount to price rigging.

Although this is an accusation that the group's secretariat, which is based in Vienna, strongly denies, its mostly unelected group of policymaking oil ministers undeniably pull the strings of the global energy industry in the same way that central bankers can control currencies.

Opec states have largely managed to maintain cohesion over the past decade as prices over US$100 a barrel have enriched their economies and encouraged adherence to quotas. This consensus is now starting to break down.

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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Gold Slides Near 4-Year-Low In Early Asia Trading

Same old, same old. Treasury yields are lower (futures prices higher); USDJPY (and thus S&P futures) are higher (though 110.00 is once again offering notable resistance); and gold is getting 'handled' lower. The divergence between stocks and bonds from Friday's jobs number is holding for now but it is gold that has been smacked to $1183 - near a four-year low: $1180.50 6/28/13, then back to Aug 2010). Silver is down 1% to March 2010 lows. Despite US equity exuberance, Asia-Pac stocks (ex-Japan) are down 0.3%.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-05/gold-slides-near-4-...

Paul Craig Roberts: Dollar will be around for a while

Paul Craig Roberts: Dollar is not dying a catastrophic rapid death. But China will help engineer a slow, bleeding death of dollar. Shanghai physical exchange will make naked shorting of gold impossible.


http://youtu.be/1oKjcliCkz0

Immoral funding of Military Industrial Complex by Federal Reserve and US taxation system must stop!!!! End illegal/unconstitutional wars! Preserve US currency!
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This guy was right on back in 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Xi...

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Why buy gold and silver to retain wealth?

Because paper money looses value everyday...
cost of living

http://www.mybudget360.com/cost-of-living-1938-to-2013-infla...

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Many items on that are about the same today

in proportion to income. Some are cheaper now. SOME may be due to better methods of production and importation, but never-the-less they are cheaper. A car was 6 months of income. You can still buy one for that, or less. A house in a little over two years--same today. Not difficult to find a fairly nice home for $100,000 in many parts of America--probably larger and nicer than back then, too.

Yes! please go lower. I am a

Yes! please go lower. I am a few weeks away from backing the truck up

Southern Agrarian

DJP333's picture

Do you really think it can go much lower?

Are you really waiting longer to buy? This doesn't make any sense, supposedly the dip today was due to the stronger-than-expected jobs report. But then you have conflicting information that Labor Participation Rate Drops To 36 Year Low.

But then again, Indian gold demand is strong, and at these prices I would imagine China and Russia will be doing a little shopping this weekend. Harvey Organ shows us that gold and silver are leaving the comex,the GLD, SLV and moving to Shanghai.

What the hell is going on?

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

I see the bottom: $800.00

I see the bottom: $800.00 gold and $7.00 silver.
don't get too anxious.

Care to put a year and quarter on that?

Care to put a year and quarter on that? :) ;)

Naw, more like within six

Naw, more like within six months. These drops are going to really encourage the shorts.

Ding! Ding!

Gold under 1200 and silver under 17.00

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And the Dollar Spikes

Is at 86.50 right now.

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

Silver set for October Halloween Horror show?

Something VERY SINISTER is going on with silver!

Is the trouble erupting in Hong Kong (with 17 year old kids claiming to be in charge of protests as a bizarre claim) related to new Shanghai physical exchange AND China's massive open intetest in silver @ COMEX?


http://youtu.be/Yw5Oi3FLqzk

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Great Mike Maloney video

http://www.dailypaul.com/326755/video-the-big-picture-of-gold

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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DOW is at -220

Where is the PPT?

Plunge Protection Team at your service. - In their own words

Secrets Of The Plunge Protection Team
The Four Derivative US Dictators. By Michael Edward, May, 2004

There are just four people who control all of the U.S. markets through their use of dangerous and explosive DERIVATIVES. They are risking the assets and retirement funds of all Americans. Because of their manipulations, especially since 2001, U.S. financial markets are now based on the gambling whims of a special fraternity of Federal Government DERIVATIVE dealers.
Take a plunge. Plunge on the Protection Team Railroad.

This group is known among Wall Street as the Plunge Protection Team (PPT). Their "official" role was to prevent another 1987 "Black Monday". They have the entire U.S. Treasury at their disposal to manipulate the markets through DERIVATIVES (futures options). In other words, they are using the assets behind the U.S. Treasury to rig the prices of commodities (gold, currencies, etc.) and stocks.

This fraternity comprises of Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan [Editor Note: Janet Yellen, 2014], the Secretary of the Treasury, and the heads of the SEC and the Commodity Futures Trading Association. It works closely with all the U.S. exchanges and Wall Street banks, including the largest DERIVATIVE risk holders Citibank and JP Morgan Chase.

Few people are aware of Executive Order 12631 signed by Ronald Reagan on March 18, 1988. In a nut shell, this is the "authority" behind the four dictators and the [sic] "laws" and "regulations" that have backed their casino-style DERIVATIVE gambling spree since 2001. Here are some highlights of this Executive Order to ponder:

    Executive Order 12631 - Working Group on Financial Markets - Mar. 18, 1988; 53 FR 9421, 3 CFR, 1988 Comp., p. 559.

    "By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish a Working Group on Financial Markets, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Establishment. (a) There is hereby established a Working Group on Financial Markets (Working Group). The Working Group shall be composed of:

    (1) the Secretary of the Treasury, or his designee; (2) the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, or his designee; (3) the Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, or his designee; and (4) the Chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, or her designee...

Caution: Monopoly Money at play. Reduce your speed.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

You should add the gold to silver ratio to your headline

It is a very valid way to watch what metal is a better investment, gold or silver. The metals come out of the ground some where between 1oz of gold: 10 oz of silver to 1:18 ratio, at least as far as met research has shown. So when the you see the gold:silver ratio at 1:71 like it is today silver is not only on sale it is being given away.

Anyways, this video explains it better.


http://youtu.be/1WY_gfA3JHU

Jim Willie: Harvey Organ estimates may be overambitious

Jim Willie agrees that we're fast running out of physical, due to paper fraud. He also agrees that Shanghai physical exchange is crucial, as Harvey Organ states. But he thinks Harvey Organ might be getting overambitious, and jumping the gun when he thinks all the silver crimes will get exposed before December & everything collapses.

Perhaps Harvey Organ misses how London can continue the gold supply to feed East hands by means of Vatican and Basel Switzerland. The hidden silver provision might be from Vatican and Indian sources. Those parties do not wish to preside over a default, since they might be exposed in some slimy scummy manner. Harvey Organ does not fully factor in other sources for China to fulfill their silver demand. They have a gigantic stockpile of
silver, at the official Chinese Govt level, often discussed, which Harvey Organ overlooks.

The Shanghai inventory is not their only source. This could be a serious Harvey Organ blind spot. To think the giant China nation has only a single silver source could be called utterly absurd, but that might be harsh criticism. To be sure, the big picture must include the Shanghai factor. The COMEX pricing fraud in Gold & Silver will not last much longer. It is just a matter of time before Shanghai makes its move. They will probably use the Shanghai exchange to exert more pressure on the Western bankers, to win hidden concessions, maybe to break off their Ukraine War, maybe to leave the Saudis alone, not to molest them when they go off the exclusive USD payment system (Petro-Dollar defacto standard). The West is indescribably vulnerable.

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Getting ready to pull the

trigger again...How can you NOT buy at these prices?

Trigger pulled

66 oz's of the new prospector rounds from Provident.Came to the price of a 1oz gold wafer.

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DJP333's picture

pull away

check these bad boys out... 2014 Canadian 1 oz Silver Birds of Prey Series Peregrine Falcon coins. Schwing!

"It’s not pessimistic, brother, because this is the blues. We are blues people. The blues aren’t pessimistic. We’re prisoners of hope but we tell the truth and the truth is dark. That’s different." ~CW

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For those waiting for the right time to buy metal,..

this could be a buying opportunity with the dollar index up and the bottom falling out of metal prices right now, especially silver. Who knows where and when this will all end? All fiat eventually goes to zero is still the rule until proven otherwise.

There are better prices out there, but APMEX is a good starting point.

Metal---------Bid---------Ask------Change
Gold--------$1,206.90--$1,208.90--($11.40)
Silver------$16.92-----$17.02 ----($0.62)
Platinum----$1,293.30--$1,303.30- ($8.20)
Palladium---$767.50----$772.50----($17.00)
Last Updated: 9/30/2014 11:43:20 AM ET

The premiums are relatively low as well.
http://www.apmex.com/

APMEX

Premiums are higher than JMBULLION, Provident metals, Silver.com, I only buy from APMEX on ebay once in a while when they have a sale on an item.

Do your best have no expectations

Those of us who follow the metals know EXACTLY what is happening

“Nothing emphasized the insanity of what is taking place in today’s global stock markets more than that stupid internet company Pento highlighted called ‘Yo.’ I’m just flabbergasted that internet company has any value at all.

Turning to the propaganda in the United States, the GDP upgrade in the second quarter was 4.8 percent. That number is an insult to anybody with an IQ exceeding that of a grapefruit. I spend a lot of time reading John Williams’ Shadowstats, and I can tell you that the U.S. government is just making these GDP numbers up. This indicates to me that there is a huge problem in the United States. They are afraid of a major crisis that is happening behind the curtain.

And as far as I can see, everything is being done right now to artificially elevate the value of the U.S. dollar. This tells me that U.S. authorities are becoming increasingly afraid of the dollar being rejected internationally. And in my opinion they should be afraid as Russia, China, et al., are planning just such as undertaking.

As an example, I see that the Canadian dollar has been crushed recently. It’s down under 90 cents vs the U.S. dollar. It wasn’t that long ago that the Canadian dollar was trading at a significant premium to the dollar. And I would say that in many ways the situation in Canada is better than it is in the United States. So the U.S. dollar is being elevated for reasons that have nothing to do with the true fundamentals.

That brings me to another thought. In reality, if the U.S. dollar is the world’s strongest currency, which it appears to be in the very short-term, I can’t think of a better endorsement for gold and silver. The U.S. is, for all intents and purposes, bankrupt. The dollar will become increasingly more worthless with the passage of time, and gold represents real money with absolutely no counterparty risk and you do not want counterparty risk in this mess the world finds itself in right now.”

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/...

Maybe because the government borrows 8 Trillion annually!

http://www.dailypaul.com/327146/the-us-government-is-borrowi...

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

No worrys here

All I got is metal from years of D C Avgs and an old boat with repairs needed.

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More Nonsense


As long as there remains a Rothschilds private Bank (Federal Reserve), and a Wall Street free (by law) to do as they please, then there will continue to be artificial depression of gold & silver.

It does not matter how worthless the dollar is. The United States was officially bankrupt back in the early 1930s. The dollar has always been worthless over the course of the last Century, and over the course of our lifetimes.

But control of price comes not from any "supply" or industrial demand. The control comes from this power which is unfettered and makes the policy.

If they can drive down the price from 50 to 17 (silver), then they can drive it down to 4 or whatever they like. If the dollar is rejected Internationally, all that will mean is higher interest rates will be involved.

But if a devalued dollar actually meant higher gold/silver prices, then how do you explain the last 4 years?

Clearly the control comes not from the dollar devaluation, but from the deliberate price fixing itself -- which they can do (by Law).

Canada, Australia, Denmark, And India Are Phasing Out Pennies.

How long before the U.S. phases out pennies???

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A...

{Snip}: SINGAPORE - Are you still holding on to a one-cent coin?

You're holding on to a little bit of history. Did you know that the authorities here stopped minting the one cent coins 11 years ago?

Small denomination coins are disappearing around the world.

Just this year, Canada stopped issuing its one-cent piece. Australia, Denmark and India have also stopped producing their smallest denominations....More @ the URL above.

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