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No more fluoridation of my tap water! Updated

I've been involved in my municipal government for a long time. I've served on numerous boards and commissions over the years. I've always put the people of my city first and have been an outspoken critic of our city government when I felt the city government needed it, even while serving on those boards and commissions.

While I do not currently serve on any boards or commissions, I've been busy with other things lately, I still keep in contact with many people within the city government and still speak at city meetings when I can and when there is something I have to say.

Recently I had the pleasure of complementing our city staff and a few others involved with our Public Works Commission. I have a friend that serves on that commission and he mentioned they were looking for agenda items.

I told him about my long standing concerns about water fluoridation and its health consequences. He was unaware of the issue so I sent him a few links to more info.

These were the three links I sent him:

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ys9q1cvKGk

He forwarded those links to the City Engineer who sent them to the Director of the Water Department, who then went to the City Administrator with the information he had learned.

Based on that information, the City Administrator approved the discontinuation of the addition of fluoridating chemicals to the water.

I was expecting this to be a long battle of education. I was preparing myself to speak at the Public Works Commission, as well as before the City Council. I fully expected I'd need to talk with members of the City Council individually to make the case concerning the health issues.

I was more than pleased that my goal of stopping fluoridation of our water was achieved within two weeks of my making the issue known.

In fact, the Director of the Water Department told me he was a bit embarrassed he did not know the information in those links. He'd been adding the chemicals for nearly 20 years and had never thought much about it.

Now the City is saving thousands of dollars each month in chemical costs, the employees in the water department no longer have to deal with the most dangerous chemical they had to use, the equipment will last longer due to the elimination of a corrosive saving the city even more money, and everyone who drinks or consumes via food the water our city provides will have one less risk to their health.

There is still natural fluoride in the water, our city water is well based, but that is minimal and does not pose the same health risk.

I made a point of appearing at both the Public Works Commission and the City Council to publicly thank all involved in making such a speedy and correct decision.

I'd advise anyone who wants to stop fluoridation to do what I did. You might be just as pleasantly surprised as I was.

Actually, just get involved in your local government, no matter what issue concerns you.

They say, "All politics is local". I say, "All that is local is not always politics".

Update:
For what it is worth, here is the video of me speaking at the City Council meeting thanking those responsible. I began by running down some of the health concerns for those who were unaware this was even an issue.

It is not my best presentation ever, but here it is anyway. The video has the pre-meeting workshop and other agenda items before the Citizen's Comments portion. My part begins about 1:46:30 into the video and lasts 5 minutes which is the maximum time allowed for citizen's comments.

mms://69.29.124.18/TRMSVOD662-1CityCouncil9-23-10.wmv



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More credible information against fluoride.

http://www.hotpress.com/Water-Fluoridation-in-Ireland/news/F...

"Dr. Philippe Grandjean, adjunct Professor of Environmental Health at Harvard University has highlighted fluoride as one of a menu of chemicals identified as dangerous to brain toxicity."

City Council

I'm a current council member of a city in MN and I've asked if we could stop the addition of fluoride in our water. The cities municipal utilities manager tells me that it is federally mandated and that they only add the minimum amount. I'm the only council member that has this concern.

Your Reputation Precedes You

Maybe no one wanted a fight--especially if the cost-savings save somebody's job.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Blame the State

My local privately owned (by its customers) water department claims the state of California makes them add it.

I haven't had time to take it to the next level, but I have thought about appealing to the EPA since they're so concerned about the effect of run-off on wildlife...

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Still working it..

https://www.facebook.com/#!/MesaCountyPatriots/posts/364055357032349?notif_t=like

Thank you for this information.

I have long wanted to address this issue with my local government. Like you, I was expecting a long drawn out process, and with my prior obligations I wasn't sure I could do this task.

Saving money by removing the chemicals is a bonus I hadn't thought of previously, and makes my case stronger. So again, thank you for this.

For those who've defeated fluoridation.

We are looking to draft legislation to present to our commissioners in order to get this issue on the ballot. Could any of you point me to the copy of the legislation that you used? This would be very helpful. Thanks!

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and

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Our Mayor responded with the below information. Anyone know of any information that can dispute her statement?

"Fluoridation of public drinking water supplies is considered by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Environment to be one of the top 10 public health achievements that were responsible
for extending life expectancy and improving health of the U.S. population during the 20th century (http://www.cdc.gov/about/history/tengpha.htm). Although I am not an expert in dental health or diseases, I would point you to the CDC's commentary on the value of drinking water fluoridation for preventing dental caries (and thereby improving both oral and systemic health), and comments on the concerns of those who are opposed to fluoridation of drinking water. Generally speaking, I consider the CDC to be a reliable authority on issues of public health. Here is a link to this information: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4841a1.htm.

I do understand that there are communities where the levels of fluoride that were added to the drinking water sources were excessive and resulted in discoloration of teeth. However, I do not believe that these incidents outweigh the benefits of drinking water fluoridation that have been seen for many years -- as noted in the CDC article. This is a very inexpensive and cost effective way of providing significant public health benefit to large numbers of people."

My radio show on the topic

Here is a two hour radio show I did on the topic. I appologize for the poor audio quality. Blogtalkradio.com had some issues for a couple of weeks and everything sounded good while live but the recording had the host audio breaking up a bit.

It is very late, but I will give you more information to send to your mayor tomorrow.

Your mayor is very poorly informed on the subject.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/paradigm_shift/2013/02/21/parad...

Also watch this new documentary: Fluoridegate http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LrWFn...

Start reading these sites:

http://www.fluoridegate.org

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

Read this report:

Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571

More videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLgKeHOgneQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViNNIwmzTzI

This is fantastic!

It amazes me how uninformed those in charge of our water systems are on this issue.

The City Mgr replied.

And advised that this issue is now with the Director of Utilities for review and response. Going to start talking to the city council candidates that I personally know unless I get a quick response from the director.

Here is the reply that I received.

"Regarding our fluoridation of the water, our target level of fluoride is 0.7 mg/L; our background level is usually between 0.10-0.15 mg/L. The form of fluoride we feed is sodium fluorosilicate, it's a powdered form, not the liquid (acid) form. The maximum contaminant level (MCL) for fluoride is 4.0 mg/L, our fluoride level is continuously monitored and this instrument will trigger an alarm to alert plant staff at any hour of the day should our level exceed 2.0 mg/L.

The decision to fluoridate the City's water supply was a community decision made in 1955, that is, as a result of input from citizens, our City council instructed the water plant to begin fluoridation. If at any time there was enough community support (be it through a vote or what-not) to discontinue this practice, the water treatment plant could also be instructed to discontinue fluoridation."

I am pondering my next steps...

maybe...

if you haven't already, see if there are some local meet groups you could speak to (meetup.com). Contact the group organizer and see if you can arrange to attend a meeting as a guest speaker. Try to rally as much support as possible and head to the next public hearing.

Mothers groups might be especially receptive. People don't care so much about themselves but when you explain that their kids are being poisoned their ears perk right up.

Just an idea

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Here is my most recent letter.

Hello (City Engineer Water Manager),

Per the most recent report "Grand Junction Water Plant Colorado Public Water Supply #CO0139321" the statement on Fluoride is that it is used as a "water additive which promotes strong teeth."

Can you advise what the quantity of fluoride is that is being added?

Palisade has recently stopped adding fluoride. Below are some articles.

5/15/12 "Palisade Eliminates Fluoride From Drinking Water"

http://savethewater.org/2012/05/fluoride-news-in-america-asp...

5/15/12 "Palisade water without fluoride"

http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/articles/palisade-water-witho...

There is information available that shows that there are negative consequences from the increased fluoridation of the water supplies. Below is some more info on the subject. I hope to hear a response on the quantity of fluoride that is added and any comments that you may have on the subject.

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ys9q1cvKGk

thanks,

Gerald Martinez

martinez.gerald@gmail.com

970-254-3756

Thank you so much.

This is a great letter. May I copy it? Hopefully we all can write a letter like this and kick fluoride out of our water! :)

yes

Anything to help this cause is ok by me.

Can you ship me a 55 gallon or two containers of it?

:)

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ditto that!

Okay, absolutely awesome.

Very impressive!

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Thank you!

This is the issue I wanted to start working on locally. I will try to provide updates.

Thanks for walking the walk you most intelligent biped!

"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer."
-Albert Einstein

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

You, my friend, are my new hero.

and that is a very short list. Thank you so much!

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Ofallon & redstripe, fantastic great activism!

Thank you so much for the information.

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I did the same thing about two

years ago in my small town of 1200 people in southeast Missouri. Every month when payng the water bill I would print out info from websites and give to them. After the 2008 election we had a lot of changes. We got a new Mayor and city clerk/treasurer. The man in put charge of the water treatment plant was a childhood friend of mine so I gave him some info on fluoride and he read it. A week later I saw him in the barber shop, he read the safety material data sheet and was amazed by the stuff that was in the companys own data sheet.I told him I was going to start a petition to get the fluoride taken out of the water. He told the Mayor about all the stuff and about me starting a petition so the mayor had all the equipment taken out of the water treatment plant. We have been flouride free ever since.
Congratulations, I remember how I felt after I helped get it taken out of our water.

Great job!

Now if we can get St. Louis to stop the fluoridation, people can drink Budweiser happily again! lol And let's not forget the Kansas City area. I think it's funny that someplace like KC with some of the best quality tap water according to their figures adds a toxic chemical like fluoride and messes the whole thing up.

Either way, you have just helped disable a piece on the local level of the plans for tyranny. Thank you.

YOU ARE A HERO!

I'm not joking :)

I'm copying and pasting all that you wrote above for my tomorrow's 'to-do' list.

My home has a well, but the nearby city --- where I had planned to relocate my food business ---fluoridates it's water.

I never would have dreamed it could possibly not be a headache and a heartache to at least attempt a shot at trying to get this city to cease fluoridation.

Thank you for this 'outline.'

Brilliant!!!!!

I will try....

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what city

do you live in? it would be interesting to start a concerted effort for us members to see if we can make similar headway in our own cities to eliminate the local water contamination. Congrats on this awesome bit of activism.

O'Fallon, MO

O'Fallon, MO is a city of 80,000. It is basically a suburb of St. Louis, MO.