I know that normally I would be against RP doing 3rd Party Run. But if Bloomberg comes in with Unity for a 3rd Party and McCain/Lieberman run a 3rd Party Ticket, why couldn't RP make a run for it. He's no longer the one splitting the vote, and I think he could beat those odds.
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How can Dr Paul run 3rd party?
Ron Paul will win the as the Republican candidate so how can he run 3rd party also? hehehe
99.99% sure...
...is not certainty. The Good Doctor has made his case very clearly and carefully. He has no intentions of pursuing a "third party" or "independent" run, but in good conscience has avoided ruling it out altogether.
IF Mike Bloomberg elects to drop a couple of gigabucks on a vanity race, and
IF McCain/Lieberman fly the independent route, and
IF the Republican Party is so suicidal as to nominate Giuliomney, and
IF the r3VO_]utionaries continue to clamour for it, and continue to raise the $ for it, Dr Paul might consider engaging in "Plan C", which would amount to a credible five-way split.
He cured our apathy, and we cured his skepticism. Anything is possible.
And as fun and entertaining as this discussion is, it remains secondary to winning the primary races. With continued dedication and cash collections, the "3rd party" argument remains moot.
Viva Agora!
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Your implication is that RP is going to loose
The underlying assumption in your statement is that Ron Paul will not win the Republican nomination. The party has not picked its nominee yet. Until then, there is absolutely no reason to discuss anything related to a 3rd party run.
It's TOO early
Let's concentrate on getting Ron Paul the republican nomination. If it doesn't happen, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it, but until then, put the thought he won't win the nomination out of your mind!
News talk 100 in knoxville TN
Just wanted to drop everyone a line and tell the story of 12/17 in Knoxville TN when Ron Paul set off a voice bot for a local radio station that addresses local politics and usually interviews the whose who of the week, News talk 100. This morning on the way to work they conducted a call in poll where voters told them who they were voting for and why. Ron Paul got first place with close to 30 votes and second was Huckaberry with 15. What amazes me is that this is the land of conservatism and Republican values, and Ron Paul made the cut amongst us hillbillies! There were the normal 30% of uneducated folks that called in and voted for huckleberry, but I can guarantee that they do not know what half of his issues are or where he stands on most of them. It was a good morning to wake up after the Tea Party and hear people engaged in political debate with Ron Paul included...
Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, and set those BRUSH FIRES everywhere you go and in all you do!
Good news, hope for you barefoot hillbillies after all :D LOL
...hey that's good news, thanks, you made my day.
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No need for 3rd party
He's going to win the Republican Party nomination. Many of my republican friends are voting for him. That's why the Media is trying not to "report" anything about Dr. Paul - Republican Party know they are going to Lose to us the grassroots! Many of Party "ins" are voting for him as well - it's just not being "advertised"....
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized."
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. "
Alright, MY BAD!
I need to take a dose of my own medicine. I'm normally #1 in line to shun the 3rd party idea, because we're not going to lose nomination of the 1st Party. I guess the MSM coverage got to me for a min, thanks pointing that out.
Though to be fair, when I post against the 3rd party idea, i'm normally a bit gentler than some of you all....
SHUT UP about 3rd Party
No one wants to hear it nor even consider it...
Don't you EVER listen to Ron Paul? He has NO intentions of doing this, he intends to win the Republican ticket - and we intend to stand behind him all the way!
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read this...
I have posted this before in this thread... But seriously, do me the favor and read this, take a moment to let it sink and then realize we ARE winning and this is a part of how the game is played...
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/29788.html
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
Second that!
Second that
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"The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government". ~ Founding Fathers
I think the threat of RP going third party is good
He's not budging. In caucuses though he can pose this as a threat, a bargaining chip, if you will. It's obvious he has support from all sides, those caucusing can and will use this as a selling point. The reason Paul isn't budging is because he's a Republican, and if the GOP doesn't go with him, he'll simply run as an Independant and win it.
He is an experienced politician and knows how to game works.
He's beaten the Bush war machine before in Texas, he can do it on a National level.
Bingo... :)
You got it.... This leverage wil mean we will win a close race caucus. It can also be used as leverage with voters now.
RP handed this ammo to us in the most recent Blizter interview when he refused to say 0 chance.
His rejection of the idea was strong enough that they can't maginalize him, but not absolute so as to allow us to use that as a tool.
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
Other campaigns
If Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP nomination then I think that he will simply run to retain his seat in the U.S. Congress. I agree with that action.
At that point the best focus for the movement will be to elect other "Ron Pauls" to the congress. To that end, http://LibertyCongress.org is working to rate the very best congressmen and candidates from all parties at both the federal and state level. We also list PACs and other resources. Of course the same effort to elect better congressmen is needed even if Ron Paul wins the nomination. Let me know if you would like to help us build this site.
well...
I'm writing him in even if he doesn't show up on the ballot...
I am 100% behind Ron Paul,
I am 100% behind Ron Paul, however I do NOT think he should run as a third party candidate. If he loses the nomination, he should encourage his supporters to become active within the Republican party, as he is and should continue to be.
We don't need another third-party "RP" like the RP we had in 1992, which, by the way, allowed another Clinton to take the White House. The risk of drawing the same analogy would be fatal for the Paulite movement, which I think is more important than winning one presidential election.
Who really would win?
Ron Paul would attract the anti-war vote. This could take more votes away from the Democrats than the Republicans. So maybe he could help put a Republican in the Whitehouse. I don't know. Either way Clinton and Giuliani are one in the same. In the end it doesn't matter unless we have a Ron Paul victory.
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ron paul ran in 88 which let sr. bush into office.
perot ran in 92 letting clinton win.
I should add that, in the
I should add that, in the event that he DOES run as a third party candidate, I will of course continue to support him, as should all Ron Paul supporters.
There is no point to even
There is no point to even talk about this yet, Until after the primaries which lets face it Ron Paul is going to do really well in, for one thing his people are motivated, and they are En Mass so there's no question he will wind up in the top three..
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Regards,
David F
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Read that and tell me we shouldn't talk about it...
Obviously, we have a good chance at the Republican nomination and obviously we should not entertain the idea of running 3rd party at this time. However, read this, and tell me it won't wake up Republicans...
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/29788.html
The Philosophy Of Liberty -
http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PoL.English.The.Philo...
Stop Talking about this
FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS ON WINNING THE REPUBLICAN TICKET
AMEN.
Plan B remains the congressional seat. I used to be against that, but with all this speculation of a 3rd party run despite what the good doctor has REPEATEDLY SAID, I'm now for keeping it on the table just so I can tell people that "Plan B remains the congressional seat" until it somehow gets into their skulls.
JMR
There is no other way
The best way to the Goal Line is Straight up the middle. We are doing exactly that 4 yards at a time. Don't look for the hail marry, the end around, or the power sweep. Lets keep driving the ball up the middle getting more and more first downs.
I am not for spending my energies on a 3rd party run. I will work however to encourage a WRITE RON PAUL in Campaign ..... by focusing on that, we will be just as effective getting votes as any 3rd party run.
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Smash-mouth, double-chin
Smash-mouth, double-chin strap, full-speed ahead! We've only just begun!
Plan for the Republican nomination
There is really no need to think about that right now: the Libertarian Party nominates in convention at the end of May, and there will be plenty of time after the primaries to figure out how best to advance the message (which, as Dr. Paul repeatedly says, is what is driving this campaign).
Let's just focus on getting him the Republican nomination: the way the old media covers him, nobody is going to forget that he always has the third party option if the Republican Party doesn't come to its senses. If he gets the most votes in the primaries, it will soon become obvious whether the party is going to honor its voters and unite behind him. If not, the grass roots can have a nice little general election money bomb in mid-May to remind the party leadership, and the LP can provide another memory boost on Memorial Day at their convention. But it should never have to come to that.
For the 100th time, John
For the 100th time, John Kerry was only at 10% and he won Iowa. Let's have this conversation in April.
I think its up to us.
What I mean is that I think that if we want Ron to run, he will. I say this due to the commits he has made about it being to expensive and it being to hard to get on the ballets. We can do this for him. All he has to do is ride the wave.
Freedom!
I will vote for Ron Paul no
I will vote for Ron Paul no matter what!
Live Free Or Die
I am willing to die, are you?
I WILL vote for Ron Paul
no matter what. I just hope and pray he is on the republican ticket.
Jesus is my Lord and my God, and Ron Paul, champion of all things freedom, including religion and the free exercise thereof, is my choice for president.