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The Great Deception!

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In 1871 the international bankers, through bribery, stealth and deception, took control of America. By creating a commercial corporation entitled the UNITED STATES (based in Washington D.C.), the bankers set up a commercial operation that imitates and usurps the now dormant constitution of the Founding Fathers. If you want to understand why things have gone so wrong in America, you must understand this great deception. Working in a gradual and incremental way, these greedy bankers transformed the original republic of individual freedom, into a socialist democracy controlled from Washington D.C. Prepare to be stunned by the following revelations! However if America ever wants to be restored to its greatness, it must face this fraudulent monster and learn the differences that made the great deception possible.

1. The united States of America - The original constitutional government founded in 1789.
2. The UNITED STATES CORPORATION - The bankers’ business corporation imposed by deception in 1871 through the creation of Washington D.C. Commonly known as the UNITED STATES, it tries to deceive and dictate power over all Americans through its corporate laws known as the Uniform Commercial Code.
1. The Constitution “for” the united States of America - The original document of freedom created by the founding fathers which still exists, but has been made dormant since 1871.
2. The Constitution “of” the United States - The document of deception that was created by the bankers in 1871 but never made known, nor approved of by the states or the American people.
1. De Jure government – the original organic government of the founding fathers.
2. De Facto government – the bankers’commercial corporation that deceptively entices Americans to enter into commercial contracts through birth certificates, social security, the draft, etc.
1. A Sovereign - An American who’s rights are bestowed by God and declared by the founding fathers. These rights grant him the freedom of self-government as long as he does not harm his neighbor.
2. A US Citizen - One who unknowingly volunteers to contract with the bankers’ UNITED STATES CORPORATION and become a chattel servant, a tenant on their land and abide by their corporate laws.
1. Common Law - God’s law for free men, where contracts must be entered into knowingly.
2. Admiralty, Maritime or International Law - The bankers’ corporate law including the Uniform Commercial Code where contracts can be entered into unknowingly and by deception.
1. A Republic - A group of free individuals who guarantee to grant and protect each other’s right to freedom, justice and the pursuit of happiness.
2. A Democracy - Rule by a simple majority (or mob), a form of socialism where the interests of the individual becomes subservient to that of the mob.
1. Lawful - Abiding by God’s law of the Old Testament or common law of freemen.
2. Legal - Abiding by the banker’s corporate law.

It Gets Worse!
Again through bribery, in 1917 the Federal Reserve Act “hypothecated” all property within the Federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve in which the Trustees (the international bankers) still hold legal title. In 1933, the Federal United States hypothecated all properties, assets and labor of the U.S. Citizens, via the fraudulent 14th amendment, in exchange for fiat (paper) dollars.

In the same year, FDR signed executive Order 6102 which confiscated all of the gold in the US and turned it over to the Federal Reserve. Then on 6/5/33 he signed H.J.R. 192 of the 73rd Congress, which declared that the country was bankrupt. Through a series of transfers, today the receivers of that bankruptcy are the International Bankers via the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its feudal roots where the people have no rights to hold free and clear title to their property, but are legal tenants and sharecroppers renting their own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank! For more information go to http://www.usavsus.info/

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To those who know United States is a Corporation..

..Please read and sign this thread: http://dailypaul.com/node/132609

With the speed on how fast this information is spreading I'm sure we will break 100 knowing individuals in no-time.

Who knows what other projects will pop up in this section of the liberty movement..

I reserve the right to govern myself.

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I create my own individual liberty through personal responsibility. Who puts the free in freedom? Not I. Yet I find the challenge real and so I hope to move forward, through study and discernment.

Free includes debt-free!

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Maybe we should focus on the idiots in congress? Patriot lore does nothing but misdirect


Thanks for all the knowledge...

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."

so, once again, we have...

...hundreds, if not thousands of reasons, and their respective avenues or arguments for blowing off steam.

At the end of the day, must we not use the "coin of the realm" to buy our consumables, and other 'necessities'?

The problem I see, as does a handful of "spiritually insightful bloggers" on this sight, is simply that God is still given only LIP-SERVICE by everyone demanding, JUSTICE upon the "evil bankers" destroying America, and setting up a One World Government or New World Order.

New World Orders come and go; and, they come and go at the Creator's DECREE! From Nebechanezzer on down!

Like it or not, He uses them to GET OUR ATTENTION!

We are equally CREATED beings - and, the responsibility we each have to not only recognize that as OBVIOUS and UNDENIABLE is the very reason WHY God must put us down - via - EVIL leaders!

Sovereign = SEPARATION; separation from your fellow man - your EQUAL, according to the very same "constitution" we all THINK we're talking about! God is the only sovereign I know, and He is NOT tainted with sin - He is holy!

Oh, we're just so intellectually superior for figuring out "the game" now, aren't we? ... so much so that we now selfishly and arrogantly say "F" the sheeple, they'll NEVER get it!

Does anyone see the breakdown - see the FAILURE of our efforts? We're all pissed at Glenn Beck for not "getting it" - and likewise - we all HATE the "religious right" because we KNOW they're serving MONEY ... so ... where is the compassion and CONCERN, a.k.a. the SELF-LESS motivation for us to restore America as a republic if we think the MAJORITY is a lost, compromised, and purely ignorant populace as relates to reclaiming our lost liberty?

WHAT has CHANGED? - NOTHING! It is a BIBLICAL principle - the BORROWER is SERVANT to the LENDER(Proverbs 22:7); fairness is NOT in the BIBLE. God will raise up whom He will, and He will tear down whom He will - at His good pleasure!

Do we THINK that "striking hands"(contracts) with whomever, or whatever - through deception, lies, corporate takeover, unconstitutional birth certificates, social security numbers, marriage certificates are no longer binding because we declare "Hey, I've done my homework on America, and I now see that I have been tricked"?

What are you going to do about it? They have the authority, and the man-power to imprison you - do you really want to go toe-to-toe with them? Who are you going to blame? WHO do you expect to REMEDY the problem now?

This was a great exercise for me over the past 3 years, I have learned a lot; BUT - my Bible tells me to FLEE the devil, and not do hand-to-hand combat with him. God has the scorecard, He already knows what we know; and He will release of from this "bondage" when our nation's heart changes towards Him; which is not likely to happen soon because the Gospel has been so corrupted by Ecclesiastical Tyrants for generations now.

At the end of the day, this will continue; disobedience to God results in the perpetuation of evil reigning over a land; and unlawful, and corrupt government is sure to be instilled as a result - because, the people are ALSO a LAWLESS lot. For all the "injustices" done since 1871(if you want to go back that far); and all the conditioning that has taken place since then - as well as all the installations of gatekeepers at every level in order to keep the "elite" 6 times removed from prosecution for these "crimes"; we are still considered absolute LOONS by the democratic majority - and - until that democratic majority is really oppressed, understands what is going on, and has not only finally suffered enough(while he still has the resources to "throw off tyranny"); NOTHING will change.

You can satisfy yourself, and appease your highly intellectual minds that you are "a sovereign"; FREE until you "get caught" - or - you can drop this whole charade, stop trying to make people ANGRY, and treat your EQUAL as you yourself wants to be treated!

Human being NEED food & shelter, Human beings need to LABOR with their hands - Human beings are ONLY guaranteed food and raiment in this life. You can't take it with you when you go; so all the temporary pleasures of life, all the accumulation of "things" will NEVER satisfy ...

A personal reconciliation with our Creator is the ONLY thing that will satisfy the human soul(irrespective of the external religious name; the "golden rule" is a common thread in most world religions - and mutual accommodation among communities is usually the goal of self-governing people) - so, the WORST thing that can happen for the New World Order, is that people of other faiths rally together to "throw them off"...that is why they pit Muslims against Christians...most "religious" people know in their conscience the Supreme Being HATES war; it is still common sense to believe that murdering what He has created is pretty much intolerable in His book, and seldom justified - Ron Paul recognizes this "just war theory".

Anyway, He created each and every soul that has been dispensed onto this planet, and He has personally wrapped that soul in a body of flesh, gifted each with individual talents, abilities, wants, needs, and placed them PRECISELY in the circumstances He saw fit in order to serve His GOOD purposes ... and He alone deserves the GLORY for it.

Man-decreed "justice" for "wrongdoings" against any lot of individuals is still a futile exercise(unless God's law is behind their reasoning, and subsequent punishment); no matter how good the arguments, no matter how pure the motives, at the end of the day selfishness is POTENTIALLY foremost at the root of all our decisions!

We are bent not to do anything God's WAY! - we simply want OUR way, like little children; and, He has given us what we want! Our leaders are but a direct reflection of our population; given over to every vice, with no mechanism within ourselves to practice personal self-restraint more often than not; BECAUSE, like the SAME democratic majority that crucified Christ - MOST have never been born again by the Spirit of God.

The truth is, God instituted government, because man is a severely depraved being; sinful, and daily more bent on listening to his Jeremiah 17:9 wicked human heart, rather than obeying God's Word as we clearly have more access to it now than we ever have in human history. And when the MAJORITY wants their own selfish whims of likes, dislikes, and temporal satisfactions and worldly pleasures to govern himself - God will give that man exactly what he wants; and He is JUST to do so!

Conversely, if man wants God's laws to govern him, he can have that also - and if the MAJORITY of men walk that walk, the government is certain to change in order to reflect that.

We had that once in this country - and we PROSPERED like none other - we will most certainly have that again after we're all gone; once God gets this nation's attention.

ALL things flow from His hand, He is the ultimate SOVEREIGN; your next breath is wholly contingent upon His dispensation of grace and mercy; don't ever think, no matter how RIGHT we all are about the path America has been on for the last century or more, that God hasn't given every last soul residing within these borders; exactly what they have WANTED - not to be ruled by His law!

UNDERSTAND the Gospel message in this verse:

Isaiah 66:2 - "For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word"

NOTE these (3) Hebrew words and what they mean:

"poor" - depressed, in mind or circumstances

"contrite" - smitten, maimed or dejected

"trembleth" - fearful & reverential

Either God fights our battles for us as a nation, or, we will have to fight them ourselves - and we simply do not have the resources! It is our choice! My prayer is He will fight this battle, in the meantime, I need to keep working for Federal Reserve Notes - and paying my bills with Federal Reserve Notes; because that is how I keep a warm, safe, and dry roof over my families head - and am afforded the freedom to educate them as I see fit.

God is GOOD! Think about how MANY people do NOT have Him on their side because, through pride, they have rejected the Gospel as silly superstition and an emotional crutch in this life - especially the libertarians!

We are at the SAME point we were at when I started getting involved; everyone wants freedom and liberty - everyone knows the government is the "bad guy"; but NOBODY wants to petition the Creator like our founders did - yet we tacitly admit Liberty is a BLESSING that flows from Him; yet we want to reserve our "right" to violate, and remain in IGNORANCE of His laws - does ANYONE see this disconnect?

Dark times are ahead I fear in this nation, but I can trust that God will take care of His own! Government won't solve our nation's problems; self-government whereby we CHOOSE as individuals to be governed by God will - as we remain fearful and reverential towards "every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God" Matthew 4:4!

The Bible also teaches us to be students of the word

and watchmen in the end times. What is going on today is all predicted in the Bible.

Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 warn us to be ware of those who claim they are Jews but are not.

Jerimiah 24 - Lays out the Parable of the Fig tree that predicts the re-establishment of Israel which will include both the good fig and the bad fig. This is also the only parable in the NT that Jesus commanded the disciples to learn.

Revelation 6 - Lays out the 7 seals of knowledge that everyone should learn to recognize and be prepared for the end times. This includes wars and rumors of wars (false flags?) as well as the financial crisis and later in Revelation, the fatal wound that the NWO will be dealt which very well could be the Amreican Liberty movement!

You seem to be critical of one digging into this information about the Great Deception but actually it is all quiet Biblical, - IF you understand the Word!

What I am critical of is...

... too many folks wasting too much more time studying out HOW they co-opted our "united" States, rather than just adapting to a seemingly biblical morality that America once WILLINGLY embraced; that personified us as "a shining city on a hill" because the MAJORITY behaved themselves and held to certain standards, rather than compromise to "make a quick buck"...all these people who want America "restored" to a nation, or the republic we once had; I do not think that they cannot even fathom what it would look like, but it would be a real Norman Rockwell painting!

Believe me Waldo, I also respect your well thought out, and extremely informative posts ... we're on the same page definitely; but I can no longer embrace the "proof of prophesy" stuff(John Hagee stuff) - every generation has probably witnessed or heard about similar world events(rumors of wars and earthquakes in diverse places), and has had a REAL heartfelt occasion to hope that Jesus would come back in their lifetime; but the real point of yearning for the INEVITABLE 2nd coming is that we as individual believers "...may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless." 2 Peter 3:14 (personally!, not as a nation - or a church, or denomination)

We can argue what is biblical, and what is "predictable"; but, I am now of the belief that the current present terrorist state of Israel is NOT the one mentioned in prophecy, but rather, it is just a ruse created and concocted in smoke-filled rooms over a generation or two ago in order to set up just one more "new world order" in world history(that will come and go) by means of a long-term deceitful power-grab, and a centralized allocation of resources from a deliberately dumbed-down sheeple.

I am of the mind that "they", the PTB as we call them, in that room - the LEARNED, and well-studied politicians, scribes, pharisees and sadducees of both then and now - simply messed with the doctrines MOST American Jews and Christians DO NOT KNOW personally(but yet have so much ACCESS to), and "they" infiltrated our churches and seminaries, caused the people to rebel against God's morality and laws OPENLY by financing a minority of misfits to cause civil unrest, impacted our desire to adhere, promote, teach and reverence God's laws OPENLY in this country, watered His black/white tenets down, ruined our faith, hijacked the leadership of our churches, set up parent organizations of NO AUTHORITY(Nicolaitans) over our denominations, and then injected so much leaven(sin and false doctrine) into the churches; which sadly, the people & our culture now TOLERATE, consider the norm(high divorce rate, adultery, substance abuse, and gambling) and will not willingly abandon(as to bankrupt them)!

Through this scheme, that only WISDOM, KNOWLEDGE, and UNDERSTANDING can get us out of at ANY TIME(if the people would pursue God on an individual journey and study the scriptures for themselves - purging sin from their very own lives); these MASTERFUL deceivers have simply managed to gain support for their little terrorist THEOCRATIC state that exists in the midst of a bunch of rich oil states(or other resources) - and as long as they are perceived by the professing Christian churches of ALL denominations in America as being in a state of perpetual victim-hood(OWED our blind-loyalty); this path we are on will continue.

Again, like our founders, I put all of this on "We The People" like you do - not "them", or the powers that be. They are merely our human equals, fallible; and put their pants on the same way we do!

This is but one entangling alliance of the highest degree; yet in my estimation, no different(at this time) than being under the thumb(debt and bribed/owned politicians) of the Mother Country known as Great Britain at the time of our founding. As history reads, sweat, toil, hard circumstances made the colonists strong and brave - and this will have to happen again if we're going to "throw off tyranny"!

Whether or not Americans have the "fight in them" is NOT the question - WHO is going to fight for us is the question I am asking!

Not only that, these colonists were KNOWLEDGEABLE Christians, also led by LEARNED men(statesmen) who stuck their noses in the books I have recently attended to personally, and am still advocating today. Scattered writings of a very influential John Locke; or whomever - just any primary SOURCE of an American History book from the early 19th century will do, and the GREAT collection of all the moral maxims that can be found in the Universal Penman by George Bickham(a calligraphy book!) - if we would just BEGIN to mold our minds this way, and the minds of the next generation in this way - people would be less apt to take a bribe; and, more personally resistant to fall into the temptation of an EASY transition into a permanent socialism on a PERSONAL LEVEL - the politicians of BOTH parties are only dishing out this temptation(social welfare, corporate welfare, and government jobs/contracts).

At this point, rather than saying it looks like "Jesus is coming back"(every century of disciples, and past saints have been looking for the same "signs") - I would just rather go the "keep it simple stupid" route and truly OFFEND people with the simple MORAL PRECEPTS found in the scriptures that our society threw out of the public square a generation ago(the rebellion against morality in general and sexual purity/modesty in 60's) at the behest of the "political correctness" movement.

Our nation's ACCEPTANCE of removing things like the 10 Commandments from society, which opened the floodgates for this lack of morality & perverseness to take over(like God is no longer watching us), was nothing more than a "created crisis"; so a Dr. Laura, a Glenn Beck, even an Alex Jones and the whole host of other religious right charlatans could appeal to our "traditional" heartstrings rooted in our God-given moral consciousness and INSTILL themselves in power one day; and, set us up as a theocratic state like much of the rest of the world has - where - our 1st Amendment free speech rights are NO MORE, and, then becomes LAWFUL to execute those who pontificate a PERSONAL philosophical, political, or religious worldview that CONDEMNS these "leaders" as the hypocrites they are BECAUSE we are as well-studied as they are; yet so properly fearful and reverential towards God's Word that we would NEVER use it to MANIPULATE a people into voting unto themselves their own sentence of serfdom; at the hands of only EXTERNALLY religious persons - who, on the inside - are "full of dead men's bones"!

I think we can "get out of this" - but ONLY - with God's help...and I do not see Him lifting a finger right now to help us as a nation because; first of all, we simply haven't suffered enough - we LOVE our idols and our vices - but secondly, because the sheeple are still very unlearned in our history, world history, and the scriptures; but worse - the electorate is still AFRAID to vote for a (Ron Paul) truly trustworthy and knowledgeable person who could be TRUSTED to be a Dr. No against government growth on all levels...they are AFRAID of ridicule, which means, they don't TRUST that God could raise up a minority of statesmen of TRUE character and personal self-restraint in this post-religious age; simply because they haven't met one personally in their own lives ever before.

People like me still SCARE them - and I still want to run for office!

America's problems are VERY simple; not as simple as that "traditionalist" crap that World Net Daily, and K-Street pro-life and pro-family PAC's sell us...it is as simple as finding out what God's rules are with respect to His institution of the family, civil government, and the church!

Right now, we're doing it man's way; and we are not only a miserable failure at it, but we're also the laughing stock of the rest of the world because we lack so much knowledge, still won't attend to it(but would rather be dazzled by the bull shit of government-subsidized academia), and still are prone to fall for so much deception from politicians who are truly less knowledgeable than most of us(and our nation's critics) - but primarily BECAUSE, like David did when he had committed adultery with Bathsheba; America has..."by [our] deed[s] thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme". 2 Samuel 12:14

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

"People like me still SCARE them -

and I still want to run for office!"

PatriotsunderGod, your gifts will be well appreciated with those who have 'chosen themselves'. Do not wait for others to take the torch. We are 'the others'.

I would strongly urge you to be involved with the efforts of re-establishing/re-inhabiting our Republic one American at a time. Remember the admonishment: "Do not put new wine in old bottles".

This corporate govt has been 'seen' and 'tested' for what it truly is and has already been found wanting many decades ago. We need no more 'proof' of what it is NOT.

It is NOT our American Republic! Ok, we get it. Now that we get it, let's move on. Well, we have. Do not underestimate 'true' Americans. We are still here but you have to 'find' us.

PatriotunderGod, the Republic is being re-built in plain sight via 'Restored America'. We have simply found the Constitution lying there since 1860, blew off the dust and began to roll up our sleeves and get to work.

Our Republic for the united States of America is quietly being re-inhabited lawfully and non-violently. Use your 'eyes' to see and your 'ears' to hear(inner ones).

"Lest ye be born of the spirit ye cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven".

Michigan Republic will play a huge role in the hosting of our assembly.

PatriotsunderGod, email me for details.


"People like me still SCARE

"People like me still SCARE them - and I still want to run for office!"
Submitted by Anisha on Tue, 10/19/2010 - 12:03.


"People like me, scare me! Luckily ain't met too many of 'em. Folks tend to like me just the way I am. Odd as I am." - Twain, 2010

Let us know when you need help running... er, not me running.

I have never taken any exercise, except sleeping and resting, and I never intend to take any. Exercise is loathsome. And it cannot be any benefit when you are tired; and I was always tired. But let another person try my way, and see where he will come out.

I desire now to repeat and emphasize that maxim: We can’t reach old age by another man’s road. My habits protect my life, but they would assassinate you.

I have lived a severely moral life. But it would be a mistake for other people to try that, or for me to recommend it. Very few would succeed: you have to have a perfectly colossal stock of morals; and you can’t get them on a margin; you have to have the whole thing, and put them in your box. Morals are an acquirement-like music, like a foreign language, like piety, poker, paralysis-no man is born with them. I wasn’t myself, I started poor. I hadn’t a single moral. There is hardly a man in this house that is poorer than I was then. Yes, I started like that-the world before me, not a moral in the slot. Not even an insurance moral. I can remember the first one I ever got. I can remember the landscape, the weather, the-I can remember how everything looked. It was an old moral, an old second-hand moral, all out of repair, and didn’t fit, anyway. But if you are careful with a thing like that, and keep it in a dry place, and save it for processions, and Chautauquas, and World’s Fairs, and so on, and disinfect it now and then, and give it a fresh coat of whitewash once in a while, you will be surprised to see how well she will last and how long she will keep sweet, or at least inoffensive. When I got that mouldy old moral, she had stopped growing, because she hadn’t any exercise; but I worked her hard, I worked her Sundays and all. Under this cultivation she waxed in might and stature beyond belief, and served me well and was my pride and joy for sixty-three years; then she got to associating with insurance presidents, and lost flesh and character, and was a sorrow to look at and no longer competent for business. She was a great loss to me. Yet not all loss. I sold her-ah, pathetic skeleton, as she was-I sold her to Leopold, the pirate King of Belgium; he sold her to our Metropolitan Museum, and it was very glad to get her, for without a rag on, she stands 57 feet long and 16 feet high, and they think she’s a brontosaur. Well, she looks it. They believe it will take nineteen geological periods to breed her match.

http://www.pbs.org/marktwain/learnmore/writings_seventieth.html - Mark Twain Birthday Speech, 70 years old

Best wishes on your run,

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

"...but, I am now of the

"...but, I am now of the belief that the current present terrorist state of Israel is NOT the one mentioned in prophecy, but rather, it is just a ruse created and concocted in smoke-filled rooms over a generation or two ago in order to set up just one more "new world order" in world history.."


"... I am of the mind that "they", the PTB as we call them, in that room - the LEARNED, and well-studied politicians, scribes, pharisees and sadducees of both then and now - simply messed with the doctrines MOST American Jews and Christians DO NOT KNOW personally(but yet have so much ACCESS to), and "they" infiltrated our churches and seminaries, caused the people to rebel against God's morality and laws OPENLY by financing a minority of misfits to cause civil unrest, impacted our desire to adhere, promote, teach and reverence God's laws OPENLY in this country, watered His black/white tenets down, ruined our faith, hijacked the leadership of our churches, set up parent organizations of NO AUTHORITY(Nicolaitans) over our denominations, and then injected so much leaven(sin and false doctrine) into the churches; which sadly, the people & our culture now TOLERATE..."

Can you say ROME (aka the Vatican controlled by Satan himself)!

"...Not only that, these colonists were KNOWLEDGEABLE Christians, also led by LEARNED men(statesmen) who stuck their noses in the books I have recently attended to personally, and am still advocating today. Scattered writings of a very influential John Locke..."

Well said - this is the start of the solution!!!

"...I think we can "get out of this" - but ONLY - with God's help...and I do not see Him lifting a finger right now to help us as a nation because; first of all, we simply haven't suffered enough - we LOVE our idols and our vices - but secondly, because the sheeple are still very unlearned in our history, world history, and the scriptures; but worse - the electorate is still AFRAID to vote for a (Ron Paul).. "

PatriotsUnderGod you are right on the money here - Bingo! This will be the barometer of our success - with God's help.

Excellent post!

It can't be...can it?

Jesus is coming back in our lifetime

I don't see that he ever left. We are the ones we've been waiting for. It's well established. The Kingdom is ours. All you have to do is "claim" it for yourself.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

If you study the book of Acts, Jesus definitely ascended

and he left the Holy Spirit which appeared in 50 days (which is what the word pentacost means). Also the 19th chapter of Revelation explicitly describes his return to earth to meter out God's vengence and rule over the mellenium!

and arn't we all

going through an ascension process ourselves at present!

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." ~ Albert Einstein

You may be underestimating the detail given in the Word!

Read the 37 verses in Mark 13. The chapter as a whole gives great detail like:

Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

Mark 13:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, 4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled? 5 And Jesus answering them began to say.

Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains.

Mark 13:28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near.

(This parable of the fig tree is explained in Jeremiah 24).

What I fear is....

...this brand of "looking to the sky" for His return motivates professing believers to DO NOTHING with regard to lending an effort to "right"/restrain our government - or - cage that beast we have let out!

What made me ultimately outright REJECT the "Left Behind" series was when I saw the authors do a 1-hour special with Glenn Beck; where at the end of the program, they said the rapture would take 1/3rd of the CURRENT population.

Well, based on the fruit I look for in a professing believer - there just ain't 2 Billion truly born-again souls walking this planet right now; if there were, our nation just wouldn't be in the shape we're in - falling for all manner of deceptions, and voting for our wallets election season after election season - while surrounded by so much knowledge, and easy access to the knowledge we SHOULD have, promote, revere, and teach in a free society!

This willing subscription to my belief that Jesus is NOT coming back in my lifetime has not only opened my eyes to what a "religious bigot" I had become, consuming in my brain so much spiritual meat while in a SEPARATED fundamentalist church; but it also gave me a respect for these words from Gandhi(who obviously reverenced a Supreme Being in the simple same manner our founders did, and reasoned our necessity to have religious freedom like no other nation on Earth) - which is my priority "creed", argument at this time - "You Christians look after a document containing enough dynamite to blow all civilization to pieces, turn the world upside down and bring peace to a battle-torn planet. But you treat it as though it is nothing more than a piece of literature."

I, perhaps like you, have little tolerance for professing conservative Christians who have never attended personally(studied to KNOW) WHAT is contained in the pages of the scriptures; if they did, they would KNOW not to vote for charlatan politicians who LIE and grow the size of government right before their very eyes - essentially - they will HURT their OWN children and won't ever recognize it(Mark Kirk's race - FALSE CHOICES again!!!)...and these voters will still do NOTHING about it towards replacing politicians with statesmen because they FEAR the ridicule of their peers and families.

Knowledge is POWER; but we have forsaken it - we, as a nation, tend to flock towards "pithy" contemporary sermons that are NOT rooted in the scriptures; but rather are deliberately distracting towards pursuing ULTIMATELY the "love of money" - which is - the root of ALL evil.

We're blind to this; and now that we can see our riches flying away as an eagle towards the sky - rather than blaming the politicians, and throwing the bums out; the people continue to shake their fist in God's face in open defiance of His "reap what you sow" principle; at the SAME TIME they go to church, give Him lip service, and ask Him to "heal our land" - without a CHANGE in HEART away from idols and things on this Earth, that is all vanity.

Again, to fold our hands across our chest and WAIT for Jesus to come back and fix it all; or be deceived that Glenn Beck's religious right & their hand-picked lot of politicians are going to FIX anything is PROOF of the grand deception that is; a deliberately dumbed-down "Christian nation" that refuses to attend to knowledge and seek AFTER Him and His Word that has ALL THE ANSWERS - and grants the true believer the gift of spiritual discernment which is so NECESSARY for us now as a nation.

Sorry, that is just the way I feel...and I am STILL learning daily to choose my battles wisely.

You might be interested in reading of the seven seals

of knowledge in Revelation Chapter 6, where the seven seals of knowledge are described. Also Chapter 7 explains the progress toward the end times is halted until the seals of knowledge are sealed into the minds of the elect. Many believe this is the secret knowledge that has been passed down through the remnant as spoken of in Ezekiel and Romans 11. In other words now is a time of learning the Word.

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What a great post

Ralph Waldo Emerson!!!!

So many DPers know pieces of the puzzle. Very impressive.

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Yes the Roman Empire must be brought back to life.

We must go back to the dark ages, (before CHRIST) , in order for prophesy to be fullfilled. (TIME) hinges on the Nation of ISRAEL. Satan has one last shot at deceiving the world. That deception is to come as a would be Christ. Hense the need to go backwards in time.
Satan thought he had it won at crucifiction, until GOD revealed the secret of Jesus Christ hidden from the foundations of Creation and from satan. RESURRECTION POWER. Now Satan must do the same in a dillusion.

Space exploration is not about finding life, but to find a place to hide.

It never DIED!!

The succession of the Caesars was passed onto the papacy by Constantine. Read about church history. Check out the inquisition from 1205 - to 1810. Read on about the temporal power of the papacy -

Then check out Ignatius Loyola and the "Society of Jesus" that began in 1537 then suppressed by Pope Clement 14th (Poisoned shortly thereafter) in 1773. Three years later they were resurrected by Adam Weishaupt as the Bavarian Illuminati in 1776 and kept going through the present.

The official "Society of Jesus" was restored with the help of Naploeon in 1805 - they have been infiltrating and subverting the word of God and God's people to this very day and have done a damn good job of it!

God dealt Satan a severe setback with the reformation in 1517 but Satan has been working around the clock ever since to crush biblical Christianity.

It can't be...can it?

Time hinges on Israel?

Sorry, but a secular nation that gave itself a biblical name does not make it a fulfillment of Bible prophecy.

I believe the deception is on Christians who buy into that unbiblical stuff and therefore turn to idolatry. That idolatry skews their views to the point where they actually vote for neocons and support "preemptive wars."

It's so clear to me that most of Revelation is about the fall of Jerusalem and destruction of the temple, fulfilling Christ's most apocalyptic prouncement.

The temple was destroyed for good because Christ is the Temple. As for the land, that was a type and shadow too -- of the true Promised Land:

Galatians 4:26 But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother.

You mean Hal Lindsey's interpretation...

...of the parable of the fig tree? He's revised his book a couple times already, hasn't he?

You may want to read the whole chapter, Mat. 24, and start with Christ's pronouncement of the destruction of the temple --as well as Luke 21 where it says "the fig tree AND ALL THE TREES."

Every generation has had people who thought the end of the world was in their lifetime and therefore twisted Scripture in order to make it fit -- changing the plain meaning of words such as "shortly" to "a couple thousand years from now," "you" to "them," and "this generation" to "that generation."

The Bible predicted that there would be scoffers in the end time

that would say they didn't believe the end would ever come - here it is!

II Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

And there were scoffers...

...at the end of the Old Covenant Age (Jude 16-19).

A few questions for you to consider:
Why would John tell the people he addressed his Revelation to (the seven churches) to calculate the number of the name of the beast if the beast wasn't even to be born for over 2,000 years?

Why would God say to the church in Philidelphia that He would keep them from the hour of trial when He wasn't referring to them at all but rather to people living in the 21st century?

Why was Daniel told to seal up his prophecy for the time of the end (Daniel 12:4,9) but John was told to NOT seal his prophecy because the time was "AT HAND" (Revelation 22:10)?

If Revelation was written after 70 A.D., why is there no mention of the fall of Jerusalem, fulfilling Christ's pronouncment in Mat. 24?

etc., etc. I too used to believe I was part of the generation that Christ spoke of in Matthew 24 -- until I allowed the Bible to interpret itself.

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Abraham Lincoln destroyed the Republic

Abraham Lincoln destroyed the Republic in the 1860s, and replaced a voluntary organization of states with a Nation born of violent coercion.

The debt of the war and the railroad building projects by the railroad attorney turned President may have led the new Nation to a compromising position. The Panic of 1873 was the bust that corrected the war boom. The destruction of the South's infrastructure left the South impoverished for generations.

The oppressor's fear of the oppressed and the slaves fear of the oppressor created a malignant culture and a required great civil costs to maintain. The Underground Railroad to the North and the opening of the Western Frontier gave the enslaved majority potent bargaining power over their so-called "masters". Lincoln saw this as a danger and felt he had to stamp it out. Over half a billion died as a result of the war.

A State that promoted indentured servitude as a path to freedom or plantations that discovered that free men out-produced slaves would have profited twice: financially and culturally. The introduction of industrial production would have finished the task. The both oppressor and the oppressed would be freed from fear.

A Northern or even an International boycott of goods by slaves would have increased the financial burden of the institution of slavery. Those that shed the burden of slavery would have reaped all the benefits of a free society.

Even today too many of our Congressmen want to enslave and occupy people in foreign lands and make us tax slaves at home. But how much longer will We the People as individuals remain blind to the reality that threats, coercion and violence leaves us enslaved and in fear.

Let us throw of our chains and embrace the acts that word to create a more perfect union for ourselves and our posterity.

Then we will come to understand who we should invite to represent us in Congress through remembering what is truly important. Liberty is popular!

Free includes debt-free!

I'm wondering if Lincoln had an on again/off again

relationship with the central bankers where a dispute lead to his death.

Yes. Lincoln Handwritten Lincoln Original 2nd Inaugural Address.

Look into how "Lincoln's War Cabinet" was funded. Then examine what occurred as the Un-Civil War wound down.

President Abraham Lincoln did great work & left us with extremely wise words.

Many malign him for his role in empire-building & waring. Those were not his intentions. These were not his good deeds. Most of his energy & effort was intended to accomplish what he promised:

"With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds..."

Handwritten Lincoln Original 2nd Inaugural Address.

He made great promises, and saw to keeping them.

As with any man, as power comes to one's presence, those lusting that power gather 'round. President Lincoln drew a huge crowd.
As to evidence telling how human Lincoln was:

In July 1864, LINCOLN visited Fort Stevens and was shown around by the general's aide, OLIVER WENDELL HOLMES, JR. As Holmes pointed out the enemy lines in the distance, Lincoln, wearing his customary stovepipe hat, stood up for a better view - prompting a salvo of musket fire from the enemy trenches.

"Get down, you fool!" Holmes shouted, hauling the president under cover.

A moment later, having come to his senses, he began to worry that disciplinary action would be taken against him.

Lincoln said nothing, however, until he was preparing to leave the fort. "Goodbye, Captain Holmes," he then declared. "I'm glad to see you know how to talk to a civilian."

Presidents Lincoln & John F Kennedy

Keep up your study; best to be educated. You are one of our leaders.

Best be on my way. Regards,

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

You must be following Glenn Beck and the historical deceiversd

Lincoln did the greatest favor he could of done for the Rothschild bankers, by usurping the states independence and forcing them under Federal control. This has resulted in the strangling grasp the have over us now, and the destruction of our nation. He was the first to institute 'fiat' currency in this country, with hisis 'greenbacks'. He has been titled as the great liberator, by freeing black slaves. However, the true result was enslaving the entire populace to the Federal government, and a 'police state' much like the one he instituted during the unCivil War. Why do you think the Marxist Obama has given great praise to Lincoln? If you really want to learn about the 'real' Lincoln, go to www.lewrockwell.com and read Thomas DiLorenzo's articles, as he has spent half his life researching and writing about Lincoln. It is always a good practice to look at the actions of politicians, and the constitutionality, instead of the deceptions the speack.