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Is Cointel Pro responsible for this "Zionist" term that is popping up everywhere?

I hesitate to post this because I don't want to invite the ugliness that will ensue. At the same time, I’d like to hear from my DP brethren.
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Ready to pull this thread...

The liberty movement is not good at self policing by definition....but if we keep allowing ourselves to be labeled racists an anti-Semites then we will not be able to spread our message.

This is my plea:

If you are honestly not racist, but are concerned about the Zionist conspiracy, could you just keep it to yourself.

Here is why:

It does not matter if we are losing our country and our liberties to a cabal of Zionists or lizard aliens.

The REMEDY IS THE SAME. Liberty.

If we live in a society with liberty and limited government then no conspiracy would be successful. ***

Anyone find this as disturbing as me?

Every time you find a liberty video on youtube these days the comments are filled with vitriol against these so called “Zionists.”

This is a traditional codeword for old fashioned jew hating. But, I don’t think there are that many jew haters around. I’m calling BS. I think with the exception of a perhaps a few unemployed neonazi wannabes, the only people that have enough time on their hands to fill comments sections on liberty articles and liberty issue treatments with ravings about “Zionists” must be on the payroll of people who want to discredit the liberty movement. Perhaps the pentagon, perhaps cointel pro, maybe the ADL…but I’m sorry, I don’t believe there are that many true anti-semites around these days to be making all of these comments.

I especially find them troubling on the DP.

(for the true believers, please don’t split hairs with the, “not all jews are Zionist” routine…if
you are a racist then you get off on using the word Zionist. It gives you a little rush…be honest)

**OK, let's say I buy into your collectivist notion that there is an extremely large group of people up to these nefarious deeds, what is your Final Solution?**

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ecorob's picture

chuckles...lol

you are so right, vlbc!

oceanfront is right and that is my mistake!

thank you:)

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I'm glad you saw my correction

as I intended it ... a light-hearted note that you used the wrong term.

But who doesn't, every once in a while?

Have a good one.

:)

Yes and no, in and of itself the term is not rascist

because it simply means someone who is a strong supporter of a Jewish state. That being said, most idiot/joe-six pack people don't know that and THINK it is a rascist term. Therefore, as an act of appeasement to move the agenda of non-interventionism and cutting off all foreign aid to all countries, those who want to use the term, no matter how good or intelligent your intentions and arguments are should wisely refrain. If not, you give the PC police and AIPAC all the ammunition they need to discredit our movement and make us APPEAR to be something we are not. Although there is some cointelpro out there using the term likes its going out of style, there is a significant amount of people unwisely using it without thinking about the larger consequences to our movement.

ecorob's picture

screw the pc police...

and screw aipac! that also goes for rahm emanuel and any other dual american/israeli citizen that controls or has a hand in controlling our government

my "movement" says i am through bowing down to anybody and they (the zionists) can get the hell out of my way or get tire tracks on their backs!

...cause i am through playing nice!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

you can say screw em Zionist all you want

and it will be your undoing in any argument. I'm not saying its a good thing, I'm saying its the way things are. Why are you so in love with the term anyways? Why can't you just say Israeli ultra-nationalist? Its the same thing and it doesn't have the same perceived negative connotative aspect for the person saying it. You say your finished bowing and playing nice to these people. So, uhh, when was it that you ever bowed or played nice? You've been using the term for a long time and guess what!?!? Its not working! If you want to win some silly game in your head and say "Haha! I'll call you whatever I want!" Go ahead, but if you really want to beat these people and gain new converts your going to have realize that WORDS DO MATTER whether you like it or not.

ecorob's picture

i'm here to change the paradigm...

you can roll over if you want to and use the pc ultra-nationalist...let me know how that works out for ya'

...for your information, the last time i bowed and played nice was when i, like many others, just ignored the signs all around us that repeatedly warned us of an israeli zionism that was destroying our country

documented...!

http://jahtruth.net/freedman.htm

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

yeah your REALLY changing the paradigm...

...no more of that old, tired paradigm where people from whatever political points of view focus on the names they are calling each other like its a sports game rather than the positions they are espousing...PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, I'm not anymore of fan of Israeli foreign policy and meddling within the USA than you are, all I'm saying is that a lot of this argument is as much about perception and wording as it is about policy. I hate politically correct newspeak hacks but they are very clever at twisting words around and making someone look bad no matter how good their intentions are. Numerous times well meaning people have been destroyed by getting labeled anti-semitic when bringing up legitimate issues of contention regarding the state of Israel and thats why you have to be careful around those people to prevent them from getting away with that. Slurping your soup real loud at a 5 star fancy restaurant doesn't mean your a bad person, but isn't it better to just go along with watching your table manners for the sake of making a good impression for other people?

ecorob's picture

no, it is not!

...but you go right ahead and please,let us all know how that works out for you

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Yes. A program that ended in 1971 is to blame for sure

If there was still a program like that, they'd probably write a post just like yours. Zionism is a philosophy--a twisted philosophy imho--not a race.

he's referring to agent provocateur behavior on the internet

not the initial program that infiltrated 60's anti-war groups. Just because they officially ended that stuff back then doesn't not mean its not still going on. The Pentagon puts hundreds of millions dollars in propaganda, infiltration and discrediting of groups today. It may not be called cointelpro but its the same type of thing.

I know

They come here not infrequently.

+1

thanks Mike.

Maybe you should research,

and find out what's what.

Cointelpro ain't generating it.

You got alotta learnin' to do, Lucy.

ecorob's picture

ditto...

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its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Well, holy, moly, somebody roll me!

I posted my reply. Then I left it. I was not even going to read the replies, was not going to see what kind of attack I drew... Then I thought it would be interesting to see if people were catching on yet... and oh, my! Are they ever!

Can we post David Duke videos yet? This business of being forever banned because he was wrong 30 years ago seems odd to me... He is not wrong now.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

The Zionist's Actions are Responsible

The Zionist's actions being recognized by more and more people is the reason these post are becoming more common.

ifamericansknew.org

councilforthenationalinterest.org

endtheoccupation.org

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