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Is Cointel Pro responsible for this "Zionist" term that is popping up everywhere?

I hesitate to post this because I don't want to invite the ugliness that will ensue. At the same time, I’d like to hear from my DP brethren.
Ready to pull this thread...

The liberty movement is not good at self policing by definition....but if we keep allowing ourselves to be labeled racists an anti-Semites then we will not be able to spread our message.

This is my plea:

If you are honestly not racist, but are concerned about the Zionist conspiracy, could you just keep it to yourself.

Here is why:

It does not matter if we are losing our country and our liberties to a cabal of Zionists or lizard aliens.


If we live in a society with liberty and limited government then no conspiracy would be successful. ***

Anyone find this as disturbing as me?

Every time you find a liberty video on youtube these days the comments are filled with vitriol against these so called “Zionists.”

This is a traditional codeword for old fashioned jew hating. But, I don’t think there are that many jew haters around. I’m calling BS. I think with the exception of a perhaps a few unemployed neonazi wannabes, the only people that have enough time on their hands to fill comments sections on liberty articles and liberty issue treatments with ravings about “Zionists” must be on the payroll of people who want to discredit the liberty movement. Perhaps the pentagon, perhaps cointel pro, maybe the ADL…but I’m sorry, I don’t believe there are that many true anti-semites around these days to be making all of these comments.

I especially find them troubling on the DP.

(for the true believers, please don’t split hairs with the, “not all jews are Zionist” routine…if
you are a racist then you get off on using the word Zionist. It gives you a little rush…be honest)

**OK, let's say I buy into your collectivist notion that there is an extremely large group of people up to these nefarious deeds, what is your Final Solution?**

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You political correctness freaks crack me up!

If you want to use the word

If you want to use the word in your own home while calling the president another word I don't use, while you call your wife another word I don't use, I could give a damn. When you make your words public under the Ron Paul banner I will make sure you are called out every time. Dumb racists do not represent me

Way to go, Jack!

Keep up the good work!
There's no telling when another word you don't like might slip out somewhere.
It requires eternal vigilance!


The ping of the spit can

The ping of the spit can

your use of the term "final

your use of the term "final solution" is very Nazi of you..those are your words not the anti zionists. talk about cointel

"and the truth shall make you free"
John 8:32

Will some explain to ggb...

the concept of sarcasm.


...Zionism from Cointel Pro? Are you serious? That term was around well before Cointel, back to the early 1900s if not before. It represents those Jews who believe the Talmud to be the absolute truth (the Talmud essentially gives Jews complete dominion over every other man aka "goyim" aka non-jew). Zionists have been waging war against us goy for thousands of years. Has nothing to do with your typical Jew, and this anti-semitism bullshit that you posted up is exactly the defense that the Zionists employ whenever they're called out as they did with Henry Ford (who was right on the money, very intelligent man).

That is not an update, an update is additional information.

You did not do any research, you insincerely offered to "buy a notion." Well, how about going shopping for a few facts, and then post THAT here as your "update?"

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Diabolical Disinformation

check this out, it proves that high up CIA agents are involved in dis-information on the Internet. check out RP (PELICAN) former CIA Deputy Director for the Division of Science and Technology, former ODNI-DIA-MASINT committee, current assignment unknown, member JASON Group/MITRE.

The Black Lodge of Aviarian Adepti - Dark Disciples of Diabolical Disinformation

An important link in the communication chain between the civilian population and the intelligence community in regards to UFO matters is what has become known as the Aviary.

This is the final link next to the public network, and so it must be heavily disguised by its own surrealistic smoke screen.

The Aviary functions best by amplifying people's own misconceptions about the paranormal.

It does this by helping to overinflate individual pieces of the puzzle so that particular investigators get pushed further into their own blind alleys.

mis-direction -- it's all a conspiracy!

The only nefarious deed that a large group of people are up to is selfishness and maintaining the status quo. Nothing else. Those up to nefarious deeds are a small group of people, influencing large groups.

However, the so-called elite few at the top of the pyramid, running these groups (in my opinion) are truly enlightened and all the FEAR about a NEW WORLD ORDER is a complete HOAX.

Of course the governments of Israel and America commit atrocities all the time, like all countries, but these crimes against humanity are due to FEAR in the HEARTS of MAN (the Sutan/Satan in Hebrew) not some evil group per se.

As for the people who act like anti-semites, I doubt they are employed by anyone but their own tortured minds. Never underestimate the millions of people out there lost in a sea of fear.

Why not Globalist?

The Zionist fascination is the world view that all of these bad things are to seve the interest of one particular country and one particular interest group.

Really? You don't think the super elite of Northern Europe aren't pulling a string or two?

What about plain old fascists and statists that you will find in every walk of life?

Examine your preoccupation with the "zionists." If there was not a particular race of people associated with the term would you be so passionate?

Would you be throwing it around everywhere?

you've clearly got an axe to grind--

so which middle eastern state is Sweden repressing?


Yes, indeed, it is WRONG that some Europeans have sent miitary personnel to Iraq, etc.--

very wrong; it is thanks, perhaps, to NATO, which is also wrong.

And, yes, many of the European countries are also anti-Muslim.

But, as I see it, there is something thick and conniving going on between America and Israel; the others are small players.

Sweden and Denmark SAVED Jews, by the way--

so . . .

I guess I don't see the connection there, but as far as England is concerned, I have no doubt they are in it up to their necks, but they did it to serve the interests of those who wanted to take over Palestine.

I will agree not to use the "Z" word when the Jews Against Zionism stop using it.

They have a pretty clear idea of what is happening.

And it DOES concern them.

If I knew about a place that was being directly repressed by Norway or Finland or Sweden or Denmark or Switzerland or even Germany and France--

then I would be pretty upset with them, too.

I DO know of places that are being directly repressed by America and Israel. It's right there, to be seen.

Sad that Europe has supported America in repressing Iraq and other middle eastern states.

And, by the way, Zion is not a term that is used exclusively by Jews; there are Christians who feel very passionate about it. It is a religious war-cry to some--and that is enough reason to be wary of it.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

and . . . *shaking my head*--

are *you* collecting the user names of those of *us* who . . . think along the lines of Rabbi Weiss?

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

*I* don't have a collectivist notion about . . .

a large group of people committing nefarious deeds.

How have American "officials" gotten away with pulling the wool over American eyes with regards to 9/11 and the wars in the middle East? How have *they* (the media, the elite, WHOever) gotten away with convincing a vast majority of American Christians that *we* are in danger from Muslims?

How have *they* done it, and are *they* a large group of people?

I don't think they are a large group of people at all; I think *they* got control of the media, and . . . the sheeple have followed.

If they can follow in America, why not in Israel or any other place?

The interesting thing here is that in both America and Israel television and media are not only controlled but are a very important part of everyday life--

in other parts of the world not so much. So, if *you* want to see the damage that has been done by centrally-controlled media to a 'people', look at 'most' Americans and look at 'most' Israelis.

Duped. Why? Because Americans and Israelis THINK they are progressive and modern and well-informed! After all, they have the BEST technology.

Very sad.

Turn OFF the television!

All any of *us* has to do is look at the destruction in Iraq and the repression in Palestine to see what comes when a large group of people gives control of itself to a small group of people.

The Israeli on the street knows no more about this than does the American on the street.

Neo-conservatives (if *you* want to get rid of the "Z" word) . . . have succeeded in both countries.

As for Zionism being a Jewish invention, I rather doubt that it was invented completely by people who considered themselves Jews; I think it was a group (even small) of people who thought that scriptures could be used to control large groups of unquestioning, hard-working, easily deceived people. What religion the people who invented it had is irrelevant, but to say that *they* used both Jews and Christians to further their agenda is not incorrect.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I stand with the People of Israel and Judaism....

I stand AGAINST the State of Israel and Zionism.


Such an overused term. Think of it this way: is it collectivist to say "some people within the Tea Party are racist"? Of course not, though it might be a loaded statement depending on the context. How about "the Tea Party is racist"? Yeah, that's a problem. The term "racist" is not collectivist, but characterized by particular things.

Likewise, the term "Zionist" is defined by particular things. Being Jewish does not, by any stretch of the imagination, make you a Zionist.

You seem inspired by your presuppositions on this subject. Perhaps you should examine why that is.

The OP provides

a breathtaking display of ignorance and brainwashing.

Most cases that severe are untreatable.

Terminal "Politicalcorrect-itis".

I've heard of that..

It is real close to being Cranio-Rectal Syndrome.

Go do something Proactive, Intelligent and Cooperative

Be prointelco.
Go comment on the "Jubilee" thread, for instance.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

a collection of links from this thread




Biden : a non-Jew Zionist

Wolf Blitzer: AIPAC

and some new ones:

Courage to Refuse


Dozens of 12th graders tell Netanyahu: We refuse to serve in IDF

'Refuseniks' say they won't attack civilians

IDF recruits - we won't evacuate settlement

"Rothschild Zionists" in US policymaking: the Rockefellers, Henry Kissinger, Paul Wolfowitz, Raum Emanuel, Ezkiel Emanuel, Michael Chertoff, Elliot Abrams, Richard Pearle, Richard Haas, Douglas Feith, David Frum...


we are the Remnant

The world is such a COMPLICATED place, isn't it?

...let's see...

The Declaration of Independence says "all men are created EQUAL" - no denominational loyalty in that ...

It also says "all men are endowed by their CREATOR"; singular...

MOST Americans still think Jesus is that Creator so named; how they choose to "worship" Him, that's a PRIVATE MATTER.

MOST Americans who DO NOT think Jesus is the Creator, still believe in a Supreme Being who is GOOD - and - BIGGER, and more moral than government.

Let's see if these TWO CAMPS, a.k.a. MAJORITY OPINION, can agree with Jesus on just (3) things I believe He said...

(1) - You cannot worship God & MONEY; meaning, you cannot serve TWO MASTERS.

(2) - You will KNOW THEM by their fruits; meaning, in one context, whether they are serving God or serving MONEY

(3) - We are to love God with all our heart, soul, and mind - this is the GREATEST commandment; the 2nd is like unto it - love thy NEIGHBOR as thyself(because your neighbor is your human EQUAL); meaning, you will KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS.

How hard it must be to NOT understand the Divide and Conquer GAME ... ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL ... if your human equal is bent on harming you; in any way, shape, or form - they are not treating you as they would like to be treated - so, SHAME THEM PUBLICLY for it ...

Seriously, there must be MORE OF US than there is of THEM - why the hell are we LOSING our nation to "bad persons", both foreign and domestic, who OPENLY disobey the Creator? ... Perhaps it is because we WASTE OUR TIME on these trivialities, like Jake Towne said; referring to our human equals by using politically & religiously charged NOUNS to describe them collectively, rather than by their INDIVIDUAL NAMES.

MOVE ON ALREADY - Zionism, a grand Zionist agenda, and our entangling alliance with Israel(and how they treat their neighbors) is a horse that has now been beaten into powder already(guilty as charged for ever being baited into commenting on it!); and I think our founders would agree, no longer the particular business of this country in such economic, political, and social turmoil at present.

All we need to be concerned with is just throwing the bums out already at the ballot box ... we already KNOW them by their fruits ... their 'associations' and 'loyalties' are OBVIOUS via their legislative records and special interest monies!

Each individual American is either in this for America and our posterity, or, they are in it for themselves - the bottom line is EVERY last soul on this planet will give an account to ONE Creator for their CHOICES in this life...it has become obvious in recent years that America has ALLOWED politicians to give away the farm...it is now a matter of whether or not they too can be as easily 'bought off' with promises of 'easy money'...so the choice is the SAME as it has ever been...serve God, or serve MONEY...irrespective of what 'religion' you are!

Sorry to pick

on you about beating a different horse into powder, but don't you do the same with your fear mongering about gays? Don't be a hipocryte. You seem to think they are out to do more harm than most. We have much real evil to deal with. I believe it was you and/or impailedforyou
that just won't let that one go and seem to think thet are the biggest threat to all. They aren't stealing, bombing,or killing.
I still worry for people like you who may unkowingly have gay children who may be struggling with who they are knowing you will condemn and never except them. I hope they are strong enough not to destroy themselves over your ignorance.
May God be with them even if you are not.

I love the person.

It's the evil activity I hate.

Jonah, where did you go ?
God will take care of the judgement. It's too big a task for mankind. God is longsuffering , He would that NON should perish. He would rather they REPENT, and change their ways.

I John 5:5.

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its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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9/11 Truth.

No. I hate people equally.

But, I detest racist, aparthied, facist people and governments of any stripe. Touche.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

Basic Correction

One can believe in Judaism - or Zionism for that matter - and not be Jewish at all. Get your facts straight. Zionism is Jewish Nationalism, just like Nazism was German Nationalism. And like Nazism, Zionism too will ultimately fail miserably.

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so true...

history repeats itself and we, the living are witnesses!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

As one of the few government

As one of the few government agents trolling this site, I have to admit no, it's not ours. Whoever came up with it is a fricken genius though... Talk about the fastest way to make most of the population think you're a crazy racist.



uh no ... that's purely

uh no ... that's purely conspiracy theory ... you're wrong in your viewpoint.

Zionism and Judaism are 2 different things ... being anti Zionist is not being anti Jewish

zionism was createdby Jews it's Jewish nationalism much like German nationalism Nazis

All paper money eventually returns to its real intrinsic value, zero. - Voltaire