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Buchanan's Take on the claim that War with Iran Would Rescue Economy

Though Obama "may lose control of Congress," says columnist David Broder, he "can still storm back to win a second term in 2012."

How does Broder suggest Obama go about it?

"Look back at FDR and the Great Depression. What finally resolved that economic crisis? World War II."

Conceding the prospect of a new war is "frightening," Broder goes on to list the rich rewards of Obama's emulating FDR.

"With strong Republican support in Congress for challenging Iran's ambition to become a nuclear power, (Obama) can spend much of 2011 and 2012 orchestrating a showdown with the mullahs. This will help him politically because the opposition party will be urging him on. And as tensions rise and we accelerate preparations for war, the economy will improve...

"(T)he nation will rally around Obama because Iran is the greatest threat to the world in the young century. If he can confront this threat and contain Iran's nuclear ambitions, he will have made the world safer and may be regarded as one of the most successful presidents in history."

Cynicism aside, what is wrong with Broder's analysis?

http://townhall.com/columnists/PatBuchanan/2010/11/02/broder...



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Might as well just run down

Might as well just run down the streets and break all the windows!

Why is the broken window fallacy not engraved in every persons head at the age of 10?!?

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these are 5 generations of

these are 5 generations of public schools & 2 - 3 generations of gratuitous violence. 40 % of U.S. Marines recently polled said they will fire on american civilians. 26 % said they would without hesitation, 11 % said they don't know if they would, (-meaning they feel too guilty to admit they would) and the extra 3 % comes from my bad math. my friend doesn't remember telling me that his family voted for rohrer for gov. in pa, because they didn't,- though he told me they did,- so at the time i gave rohrer 8 % more than he received, because i thought there was voter fraud because my friend's family voted for rohrer. so i'm sorry, i'm wrong. i don't know what to think. yeah sure, complete destruction, are the bankers going to come out from behind their fiat currency and pull their shirt sleeves up and turn into iron men, building these things with their hands?,- i hope they lead by example instead of accelerating a downward spiral of our existence,- but we seem to be doing that ourselves with little prompting from our overlords.

i can't believe half of the daily paul is being psy-oped into the belief that rand paul is change. oh god, if he really did lie and ended up doing good when he promised evil, ... that will be a comic book. but it looks like he'll be glad to ride the band wagon into war. look at his face, i'm staring at it right now. his eyes are dark, lizard-like man, he resents his father,- i mean, you just have to look at him. and you guys are going to trust this guy!!!???

Maybe The Law by Bastiat isn't enough for us,- maybe there is some light that needs to go with it. if we're going to be handed bastiat essays instead of asking for it ourselves when we are ten... then maybe there will be no difference than it is now and we will be like rand paul.

lawrence

Hate to sound anti American

but if "kids" are dumb enough to volunteer to take a bullet so some fat cat makes some money, or create another "Patriot Act" then hail the IED I say.
It ought to be apparent to the most ignorant that the folks running the US Government DO NOT HAVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN MIND. They need your kids though, someone has to rape, murder and pillage. God we've turned into the Soviet Union...

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

You post doesn't sound anti-American to me...

In fact, Americanism as defined by our founders WOULD NEVER have agreed with our foreign policy of today.

We were NOT to try to spread our form of governmnet at the point of a gun.

Rather, Quincy Adams beautifully advocated that we lead only by example of a free society and not get involved in foreign affairs.

But today the American military has become a thug arm of corporate interests like oil companies, defense contractors, independent security companies, banks etc.

It is NOT used to defend our country.

Of course part of the problem is that crooked politicians have shaped our foreign policy such that they have made us a lot less safe in the world than we otherwise would be.

Dr. Ron Paul's idea of leading by example and live and let live IS the answer to ending terrorism against us.

END ALL FOREIGN AID and BRING ALL THE MILITARY HOME!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Hey David Broder...Get YOUR lazy ass over to the desert...

...and take a few bullets or IED's YOURSELF before you advocate sending American kids over there to do your dirty work.

This article is the biggest crock I've read in a long time.

Unfortunately, Broder IS right about the republicans chomping at the bit to go to war with IRAN.

I've said all along - the reason we invaded Iraq is because they quit trading their oil in US dollars. Once we took over, the oil was immediately traded again in dollars.

The same thing is going on in Iran which is why the US finance ministers want to invade.

It's all about only ONE thing - the money and the bankers' ability to profit.

But a nation should be able to trade its commodities in any currency they wish.

Broder is too stupid to understand this though.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

World War II resolved the economic crisis?

Only if no one remembers slogans like these:

"Rationing means a fair share for all of us"

"When you ride alone you ride with Hitler. Join a car sharing club today"

"Do with less so they'll have enough"

Here's what the economic recovery of WWII looked like:
https://bshs-americanhistory1.wikispaces.com/Sacrifices+at+Home

all I can say is that the comments here . . .

on DP are better than the comments on the article linked--

and possibly even better than Buchanan's writing--

but if he's against war, that's good enough for me--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

WW II was NOT what ended the Great Depression.

It made it WORSE, by repurposing or destroying the means of production, seizing most of the industrial output and the people's remaining wealth and time, and so on. The standard of living around the world went down further - even if you weren't living in or drafted and shipped to a war zone.

"Buy bonds." Save tinfoil. Donate your scrap metal and peach pits. Rationing. Virtually no meat. No cars, no replacement tires, little fuel. No STOCKINGS! All resources managed by central planning boards, looking to maximize the amount they could grab and turn into weapons for destroying the OTHER side's resources and people. Price controls, fiat money, and all the economic indicators driven, not by markets (even black), but fictions built out of bureaucrats' arbitrary assignment of price numbers.

Sure it "got (some) people back to work" - as slaves in factories or armies, or serfs back home, with all their time and all their output grabbed by the almighty state. This standard of living was WORSE than being unemployed and living on some combination of private charity, barter, garden produce, and poached game.

What finally got the economy moving was the END of WW II, when masses of surviving soldiers came home, armed to the teeth with "war souvenirs" they knew how to use, with heads full of ideas about freedom. They were not willing to put up with the continuation of "war emergency measures" without the war, nor corrupt elections (to the point of armed revolt in one crooked county).

With atomic bombs putting an end to the usefulness of all-out war it took them years to perfect low-intensity conflict after the bad start with "police actions" in Korea, and a generation after that to get back to full-blown conflict in Viet Nam (which lost them the tool of the draft, but put enough on the credit card over LBJ's signature to cement the permanent debt).

= = = =
"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

WWII was good for one thing

The current value of coins from that era.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

How Did This Propaganda Garbage Make The Washington Post?

Because, unfortunately for "All" Americans, the Washington Post is owned by warmongers, who could care less about young American lives !

In my opinion, these traitors should be arrested and made to memorize the part of the Constitution that says this:

Article I:

No state {or district} shall...etc....enter into any Agreement or Compact......, with a foreign power, or engage in war,"""UNLESS ACTUALLY INVADED""!!

Mr. Broder didn't pay attention in his 9th grade civics class !

beesting

Obama is a pompous ass who

Obama is a pompous ass who will get a memo today, from the people.
He will not be able to ever recover, You betcha! LOL!

That's wrong with the analysis.

Broder is what?

200 years old! And wasn't or isn't he a liberal? Great we really do have two war parties! I just voted...I voted for nothing but Constitution and Libertarian candidates. No Dems or Cons! F*%K YOU Broder!

On the issue of Interventionist Empire

Buchanan has been very consistent. I always enjoy his take on the foolishness of American bravado in war.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

Haha

they're still using THAT LINE? They forget that that Haliburton benefits from Wars, NOT AMERICANS...

+...Pray for Your Enemies and Moral Courage for Righteous Leaders, so that Justice Will Be Delivered to the Innocent...+

War is the health of the state

How does losing lives and resources get you out of a depression again?

Well, if attacking in Iran ushers in World War III...

there will be no one around to run against Obama, unless you count the cockroaches.

they counted the first time.

they counted the first time.

Not that Mccain would have been any better.

Ya

and then when we finally DO invade Iran he'll say the same thing he did when we invaded Iraq.........we need to support the troops because we're already there. I got two words for you PB&J...............F**K YOU.