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Forbes: Abolish the TSA

Full Frontal Nudity Doesn’t Make Us Safer: Abolish the TSA
by Art Carden - Forbes

The Republicans control the House of Representatives and are bracing for a long battle over the President’s health care proposal. In the spirit of bipartisanship and sanity, I propose that the first thing on the chopping block should be an ineffective organization that wastes money, violates our rights, and encourages us to make decisions that imperil our safety. I’m talking about the Transportation Security Administration.

Bipartisan support should be immediate. For fiscal conservatives, it’s hard to come up with a more wasteful agency than the TSA. For privacy advocates, eliminating an organization that requires you to choose between a nude body scan or genital groping in order to board a plane should be a no-brainer.

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HERE IS HOW TO END TSA

http://dailypaul.com/node/150021#comment-1586486

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

NOW we are talking.

PLEASE read my thread about making "Opt Out" really mean something. The "Controlled Opposition" got hold of this already and are distracting people into thinking that asking to be groped is a protest... TAKE IT BACK.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Kabuki Theatre

Come on, when endless personnel have access to airplanes and the cargo hold and they aren't being scanned and groped when they get to the terminal then how could anyone possibly think this security theater makes planes an oz safer. Think about it - one of the low level staff that cleans the plane or throws luggage into the cargo area can put anything on there.

True enough.

Perhaps once the human element is completely removed and fly-by-wire robot planes are a reality the problems will disappear. Give it another 50 years to shake out.

such an important article

I will give it another bump.

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The TSA is exactly what I

The TSA is exactly what I would expect in a Federal agency taking over jobs from the industry where the responsibility belongs. It is the Federal hat-trick; they found a way to 1. spend money on something harmful that is not needed, 2. stand around all day and look at porn, rather than do useful work, and 3. grope anybody who does not wish the be dosed with radiation from the porn machines.

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Distraction....

Here's what I think: these criminal bankers are so exposed right now that they are bringing their propaganda Machine into full swing. Gold is down; mysterious missles appear; sudden ack of bldg7; outrageous acts by the TSA; heart-wrenching stories about a kid and his "flag"...list goes on while burying:

Forclosure-Gate, QE2/3, and a real Fed backlash!!!

Wow, how impressive the system is aye?

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

Folks, let's get real. The

Folks, let's get real. The security checks at our airports is a waste of time and resources. For any measure of security, everyone boarding an aircraft must undergo a cavity check. See: http://blogs.cbn.com/stakelbeckonterror/archive/2009/09/30/n....

The best way to stop the harassment at the airports by TSA is to educate the flying public. There are some things the people will not tolerate. The message should be "inspect the body crevasses or inspect nothing". I refuse to fly until the harassment stops.

Spread it around, the more the people realize the ineffectiveness of the TSA, the quicker they will get out of our lives.

Extra security should be optional.

The "market" solution to this problem would be for airlines to charge extra for "secure" flights. This would appeal to all those paranoid flyers out there who don't mind getting molested and x-ray'd.

Instead, we are ALL subject to the whims of the TSA.

I can tell you right now

I can tell you right now there is no way the flight crews or airlines would allow people onboard without a thorough screening. Maybe the answer is to adpot the Israeli airport screening model. Fire the TSA, require all screeners to pass revised screening procedures based on profiling and rigorous verbal questioning and go back to the traditional pat-downs, no backscatter, everything done in full view of the public, no allowances. All screeners hired by the airlines (could be a group effort), but reqiure frequent reviews of interactions with the public and safety record.

Awesome solution.

It's so funny that back when I graduated H.S. in 1990, alot of us rednecks had shotguns and ammo clearly visible in our truck back windows on campus. What the f%$k is going on with this lockdown situation?
If this shit is going on when I decide to fly I'm just gonna strip naked and walk in to the airport. I mean why the f$%k not?

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Ha ha!! That's a great idea!!

to Victoria's post below . . .

Debbie

Take the porno scanners out

Take the porno scanners out of the airports and install them in congress, the pentagon, and the white house with the images posted on the internet. We just want to keep them safe from harm and insure transparency of our government. Then we will see how much they like them.

Great idea. We need to keep

Great idea. We need to keep congress safe from terrorists.

TSA

I was going to fly to California with my whole family this Spring, but until the TSA stops sexually assaulting people with their "pat downs", I am not going to fly. Groping and squeezing private parts isn't a "pat down". “You should never have to explain to your children, ‘Remember that no stranger can touch or see your private area, unless it’s a government
employee, then it’s OK.’ ” I will not fly until the invasive TSA pat downs are stopped!
I have posted to conservatives on Facebook, written emails to my Senators and Congressperson.
This has to stop!!!

Demint is one of our Senators, I just fired off a letter to him

asking him in his capacity to look into changing the way airline screening is handled, I would prefer the airlines themselves be responsible for whom they let on the planes. They have the vested interest in keeping their customers, investments, and name safe from harm, customers will then choose who they feel has the best safety procedures.

The Liberty a society retains is inversely proportional to the number of Lawyers in the Government.

Hearing on TSA

Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security

The Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security Subcommittee has jurisdiction over civil aviation, with specific oversight responsibility for the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). The Subcommittee controls the authorization levels for all of the FAA’s programs. It monitors the agency’s grant making efforts in funding airport infrastructure projects and air traffic control (ATC) facility upgrades. The Subcommittee also has jurisdiction over oversight of the nation’s international infrastructure related to civil aviation as well as domestic aviation security and the majority of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) workforce. The Subcommittee is overseeing the Agency’s implementation of aviation security provisions included in the 9/11 Act passed in the 110th Congress, and will be reviewing general aviation security and other aspects of the commercial aviation security regime.
Subcommittee Members
Democrats Republicans
• Byron L. Dorgan - Chairman
• Daniel K. Inouye
• John F. Kerry
• Barbara Boxer
• Bill Nelson
• Maria Cantwell
• Frank R. Lautenberg
• Mark Pryor
• Claire McCaskill
• Amy Klobuchar
• Mark Warner
• Mark Begich

• Jim DeMint - Ranking Member************

• Olympia J. Snowe
• John Ensign
• John Thune
• Roger F. Wicker
• George S. LeMieux
• Johnny Isakson
• David Vitter
• Sam Brownback
• Mike Johanns

Nice post, thanks

we should add all their emails to the list

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Yes, both of my senators are on there. I emailed them through

Downsize DC using his letter which is awesome, with links to everything, and am calling them tomorrow!

Debbie

It's about time!

The body scanner issue has been around for a while now...some of the bigger civil liberties organizations have been complaining about this for at least a year. I think TSA's new policy of invasive patdowns has to do with the Electronic Privacy Information Center's lawsuit to stop TSA body scanning. EPIC had already submitted a Freedom of Information Act request (which TSA resisted, and EPIC used attorneys to enforce) which showed that the images had been saved...despite TSA's claims that they had not.

Here's a link to EPIC's page on this:

http://epic.org/privacy/airtravel/backscatter/

I agree with the Forbes article...the idea of abolishing TSA deserves to get bipartisan support. To me, though, this sort of issue is a kind of neocon "acid test," because I believe neocons may be the only ones in support of this version of Big Brother.

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What will be the next place for TSA type tactics?

I don't see much difference in the reasoning for the high security on an airplane and a football game. In fact more lives are at risk at a football game. So when with the TSA sexual deviants disallow clothing at football games?

tunnels & bridges

Problem -> reaction -> solution:
explosion (false flag or freak accident) in tunnel or bridge -> "something must be done" -> TSA checkpoints at all major bridges and tunnels

Of course, sharks enjoy Homeland Security Chum:
http://www.doctorsparkles.com/audio/DOCTOR_SPARKLES-Homeland...

My wife and I go to BSU

games and sometimes they frisk. Last home game they didn't. But it's not a genital or breast exam by any means and they didn't touch my kid.

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After you go through a TSA porn station

File civil and criminal complaint on TSA and employees for sexual abuse. Take video or have and/or witness if able.

Complaint form
https://contact.tsa.dhs.gov/DynaForm.aspx?FormID=10

Is anybody making a list?

I would like to send a letter to congress with a nice list of each part of the Fed Gov I expect them to abolish next session, with a one sentence reason and cost savings number. Is anybody working on a list like that?

Great Question

I've been considering this for a few weeks now, but probably don't currently have the time to pour into it. I think the Government keeps its budget online for all to gaze at, its usually a bit clunky looking so there's an adjustment to sifting through it.

Man, I'd love to see a spreadsheet with the agency and its annual consumption since its creation.

Rand

mentioned a book in one of his recent interviews that had documented each agency and their expenditures.

Good call, I'll be looking for that

In the meantime, here's a bunch of PDFs showing next year's allotments by agency:

http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/FY_2011_federal_budget/

They must be dissolved/disbanded.

No more of this BS about "Oh, we'll do better now, and these mistakes won't happen again".
That's CRAP!

The way to make sure it won't happen again is to have Napolitano's ass out on the soup line, along with all her other blood-sucking bottom-dwelling spawn that she commands.