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The Federal Reserve is Laundering Money

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This is a video that just popped up to explain the FED. You have got to see this. After you watch this you will understand why gold and silver are a safe haven and why we are so screwed!



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Does Anybody But Me Understand That The Constitution Prohibits

DEBASEMENT of the currency. IN FACT it is specifically enumerated as the offense known as TREASON. Why is nobody calling the FED what they are--Traitors.

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The Coinage Act of April 2, 1792

Section 19. And be it further enacted, That if any of the gold or silver coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint shall be debased or made worse as to the proportion of the fine gold or fine silver therein contained, or shall be of less weight
or value than the same out to be pursuant to the directions of this act, through the default or with the connivance of any of the officers or persons who shall be employed at the said mint, for the purpose of profit or gain, or otherwise with a fraudulent intent,
and if any of the said officers or persons shall embezzle any of the metals which shall at any time be committed to their charge for the purpose of being coined, or any of the coins which shall be struck or coined at the said mint, every such officer or person who shall commit any or either of the said offenses, shall be deemed guilty of felony, and shall suffer death.
http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/coinage1792.txt

good effort, but seriously,

good effort, but seriously, could they not have gotten two people to do the voices, rather than those annoying computer voices?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

THE BEST synopsis of the past decade I've seen yet!! Brilliant!!

The obnoxious digital voices are part of the charm of these people. I love watching these.
Search for the one where they talk about Krugman refusing to debate any Austrian economists, I laughed till I cried!
Max Keiser and Michael Kreiger have a great approach to handling this current issue.
We can all pitch in and do all we can til it bursts.
Buy as much physical silver off the market as possible.
Gold too if you can afford it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cza_OPhtAhI

Dave Matherly

It got the

point across. It helped me to understand it all very clearly. I understood most of it...but this put it all in order.

what HYPOCRISY

that "libertarians" and "free market capitalists" are all about freedom, privacy, trade without interference, as long as THEY get to do what they want. When banks or corporations do the same, they want regulation, taxes, and transparency.

Still a little upset about being banned from RP forums, BKV?

thought you'd come over here and peddle your wares did you?

Who are you to say what libertarians are and are not. Your generalizations make a farce of your arguments.

tell me where I'm wrong.

tell me where I'm wrong.

I just did. Did you not read the first time?

what HYPOCRISY
that "libertarians" and "free market capitalists" are all about freedom, privacy, trade without interference, as long as THEY get to do what they want. When banks or corporations do the same, they want regulation, taxes, and transparency. -BKV

You're claiming hypocrisy on a straw man.

You're generalizing what you think libertarians are, believe, stand for and want and arguing that that strawman is not living up to your expectations. You made a straw man from your own interpretation of libertarianism and think by knocking it down you somehow made a point. That is where you're wrong. Your ensuing arguments are moot.

P.s. I admit calling out your ban from Ron Paul Forums was not fair and I apologize. I don't know what the circumstances of your ban were. You replied before I could change it. However based on what I've read here I can't say I'm surprised to discover you've had problems on other sites.

so I ask you correct me. WHAT

so I ask you correct me.

WHAT DO libertarians believe? and what's unlibertarian about corporatism, Federal Reserve, or our government?

Force and Fraud

It's that simple, when the government uses its guns to protect the fraudulent actions of corporatist joint ventures, this is an affront to the libertarian axiom of non aggression.

I may not use force or fraud to coerce others, you (as in everyone else) may not do likewise, and no group of others may as a collective conjure any ability in contravention to this axiom which they did not have as individuals.

It is legitimate to defend ones self, or seek help in the defense against such fraud and coercion. To the extent that individuals use the coercion of government (taxes from unwilling third parties) to aid themselves in this manner they are as guilty as the corporatists. Should an individual participate in a voluntary arrangement for mutual self defense, he is within his rights from a libertarian perspective.

republic

who gets to say what is

who gets to say what is aggression? what counts as fraud?

Here you go Champ

Natural Rights Perspective:
Ethics of Liberty

Argumentation Ethics Perspective:
Economics and Ethics of Private Property

Utilitarian Perspective:
Foundations of Morality

Simply put, any ethic, aka political philosophy, must be universalizable and tenable, as such, it must protect private property and allow for the homesteading of unowned resources. Futhermore, all peaceful transactions are permitted (or else there would be a violation of private property occurring). Any transaction forced upon an unwilling individual is coercion, any deception in a transaction is fraud. Fraud may be more difficult to protect against, but in a libertarian society private arbitration and ostracism would be used to minimize the occurrence of fraud and punish those deemed to have been engaged therein.

republic

Nice paragraph republic.

And on top of fighting for land, we must fight the lies and deceptions layed upon us by manipulative and very pervasive media such as major documentaries and bad "science" sychophantic explanations.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

No. Libertarians and free

No.

Libertarians and free market capitalists do not want regulation, taxes, and other big government rackets because these tools do not effectively address the problems. To address the financial mischief by banks and corporations, the perps must be at risk of failure. Then banks and corporations that take foolish risks, fail and go away.

so you have no problem with

so you have no problem with what's happened with repeal of Glass Steagall, housing bubble, or the Federal Reserve, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T ASK FOR BAILOUT?

No. The perps need to be

No.

The perps need to be able to fail and be at true risk. While the Federal Reserve exists, banks and corporations that function on credit will not be at true risk. To be at true risk a bank, for example, would need to fully risk its own assets when making a loan. This does not happen. What happens is that a bank will make an accounting entry for a loan for the full loan amount against a fractional reserve, in effect creating money from nothing, all made possible by the Federal Reserve. Because they can "loan" money via fractional reserve, they are, at best, operating at fractional risk.

(Please research fractional reserve banking and the Federal Reserve.)

Asking for a bailout is just adding insult to injury. Banks and corporations already have an orderly termination process to be used when they are unable to pay creditors called bankruptcy. Bailouts are not only unnecessary, but are far more harmful than the legal termination processes, such as bankruptcy.

like i said, as long as they

like i said, as long as they don't ask for bailout, everything is OK, right?

No. I read your posts and

No. I read your posts and have attempted to explain. If you choose not to read my explanations then we are not communicating.

not capitalism

A banking cartel that dictates monetary policy and makes secret deals with foreign interests is not what capitalism is all about. I think it's time you read "The Creature."

I read the creature, I just

I read the creature, I just dont agree entirely with it, or see what's wrong with it.

the book also tells me JFK wasn't killed by the Fed :)

what's wrong with dictating money policy and making secret deals? Do you believe you have a freedom from monetary policy and they don't have a right to privacy to make secret deals?

If you really read that book.............

Then you would remember all the reasons he stated for the Fed to be abolished. And no I don't believe that bankers in suits behind closed doors should be making secret deals with my money.

I don't think you understand how money works

Learn about it and you'll understand. No hypocrisy whatsoever.

I do. Which is why I act

I do.

Which is why I act accordingly and not complain.

You believe in freedom from taxation and regulation, UNTIL SOMEBODY BENEFITS FROM IT OTHER THAN YOU. Then it's your turn to beg for laws, regulation to hurt those who benefit from their FREEDOM which you'd want for yourself.

Don't lay that crap on me man

"You believe in freedom from taxation and regulation, UNTIL SOMEBODY BENEFITS FROM IT OTHER THAN YOU. Then it's your turn to beg for laws, regulation to hurt those who benefit from their FREEDOM which you'd want for yourself."
I do???

I'm all for freedom for everyone equally. If the fed wants to distribute reciepts for nothing and people want to use them, I could not care less. However, when the fed has the exclusive power to create "money" and I HAVE to use to do I have as much freedom as they do? Are they more perfect in God's eyes and deserve extra rights that I don't?

nobody is forcing you to use

nobody is forcing you to use or accept federal reserve notes. it's not our fault you don't know enough smart businesses that agree with your money doctrine and would prefer to trade in a foreign currency or barter.

You say it's not our fault .

You say

it's not our fault

. Who exactly do you represent?

B.S.

libertarians worth their salt don't approve of corporatism, where the bank or corporation benefits from favorable government intervention like bailouts, subsidies, or stifling regulations that benefit the government connected entity and harms their competitors.

laissez faire!