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Hunter S. Thompson Knew 9/11 Was a Sham on Day One: September 11, 2001

Part of what Hunter S. Thompson wrote on 9/11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMpMu0ow2DY

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The full article from 9/11/01, has further prophetic details:

The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. Osama bin Laden may be a primitive "figurehead" -- or even dead, for all we know -- but whoever put those All-American jet planes loaded with All-American fuel into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon did it with chilling precision and accuracy. The second one was a dead-on bullseye. Straight into the middle of the skyscraper."

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We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows? Not even the Generals in what remains of the Pentagon or the New York papers calling for WAR seem to know who did it or where to look for them.

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed -- for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now. He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why. If the guilty won't hold up their hands and confess, he and the Generals will ferret them out by force.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1250751

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Regarding Hunter S. Thompson's "suicide;"

Two years ago in January 2003, Thompson actually did give an interview on KDNK radio (Colorado) where he made a suggestion that he may be murdered to shut him up.

"Bush is really the evil one here and it is more than just him. We are the Nazis in this game and I don't like it. I am embarrassed and I am pissed off. I mean to say something. I think a lot of people in this country agree with me...we'll see what happens to me if I get my head cut off next week -- it is always unknown or bushy-haired strangers who commit suicide right afterwards with no witnesses," the writer said.

More confusion has arisen after a quote from one of the police officers investigating the death scene. Deputy Ron Ryan said there was a spent shell casing, but there was no cartridge in the firing chamber, as there should have been under normal circumstances. Sheriff's officer DiSalvo confirmed this opinion; "I think a bullet from the magazine should have cycled into the chamber". This "single bullet" problem has led to speculation that Thompson was coerced into self-inflicting a gunshot wound, being given a gun with a single shot, perhaps accompanied by threats against his family.

Speculation arose that the gun used to kill Thompson could have been capable of a manual ammunition cycle, though as yet no support for this claim has been offered. DiSalvo said he hadn't checked the gun, but that the weapon could have been on a manual cycle that would have stopped the other cartridges from going into the chamber.

The spent slug was found in the stove's hood behind Hunter Thompson's body, investigators said.

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson_obituary_spaw...

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Amazing clip. I've seen this

Amazing clip. I've seen this before, but thanks for sharing so I could see it again!

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What are you guys talking about?

He knew it was a sham? Sounds like he bought into the official story completely. How is what he is saying here any different than what I saw all over the television that day and in the aftermath? Just because the video plays all along the watchtower and shows some chaotic images doesn't make anything thompson is saying profound.

Does he say "there is no way in hell those towers could have collapsed like that without explosives"? Does he say "Even if we accept that the planes were hijacked by muslim extremists, how did they manage to rig three high profile skyscrapers with enough explosives to bring them down?". Does he ask how the hijackers managed to get our air defense to stand down? Does he ask why they would even bother with hijacking planes if they had the access to the buildings that would be necessary to plant those explosives?

I did recognize it as sham on day 1 for these reasons and more, but there is nothing remarkable at all about thompson's comments. Sounds more like neo-con propaganda barely disguised with a few negative words about bush.

And even if he was suicided by someone other than himself (I have no opinion on the matter, I don't know and I don't much care), that doesn't automatically make him a swell guy. I have read some unsavory things about thompson years ago. I don't remember the details very well, but it left me with an impression of him that was less than positive, and I feel that if he was killed he probably had it coming, and I really doubt it had anything to do with silencing him about 9/11 if that is what some of you are implying.

What are you talking about??

Did you even watch the clip?? The clip indicates he knew the aftermath of 9/11 and what America would do overseas was going to be a sham. Everything he said in this clip became true for the aftermath of 9/11. This clip isn't about the events of 9/11 itself, but what kind of irresponsible and illogical actions the US would take against the middle east.
And by the way, this clip was made right after 9/11, before Bush sent troops into the Middle East.

Yes,

I watched the clip. Okay, so you agree he isn't talking about the events of 9/11 but the aftermath, but still I don't see what is so "amazing". A lot of people were saying very similar things -even on mainstream television (except bush was praised for first couple of years or so). Not difficult to predict mindless reactionary wars and crackdowns on civil liberties, even for people who believed it was the radical muslims.

I guess what bugs me is the title of the thread saying thompson knew 9/11 was a sham from day 1. I was expecting to see some article (or video) where he is talking about the events themselves being a sham, and all I got was this very unremarkable video with very unremarkable insights that anybody could have had, and that many people in fact did have.

Did you write an article on 9/11and have it published?

I guess I must have missed it...

I call bull on you.

No,

I didn't write an article and have it published. So what??? Did I SAY that I wrote an article? Do I need to have written an article in order to tell you that I knew what any imbecile should have known if they had their head on straight that day?

What exactly are you "calling bull" on? You don't believe I knew 9/11 was BS on day 1? Even when I provided logical reasons why anybody not living in a zombified state should have known it was BS from day 1? Fine, don't believe me. Nobody believed me THEN when I told them it was all BS, so why would people who apparently believed the lies then believe NOW that I never believed the same lies they fell for?

But if you don't believe me, what I don't understand is why would you believe thompson knew? There is nothing -NOTHING- in this piece which indicates he "knew it was a sham"? So unless he wrote some article which you did not link, then he didn't write any articles either.

You are clueless.


As such, I doubt you had any clue on 9/11 either.

You don't seem to realize that the technicalities aren't really as important as the implications either. Nobody knew all the details the day of, not even those that pulled it off.

Let's look at a few of the core things Hunter pointed out though, with very minimal information:

  • Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

So far true, the enemy is anyone that resists, and it's been the longest "war" in our history and still dragging on.

  • It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides.

True, one of the main excuses for the war has been eliminating "religious extremism."

  • It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy.

True, the war is global, with no borders, and no clear enemy.

  • Osama bin Laden may be a primitive "figurehead" -- or even dead, for all we know -- but whoever put those All-American jet planes loaded with All-American fuel into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon did it with chilling precision and accuracy.

True, he points out that Osama may just be a patsy, may even be dead, and redundantly points out the planes were American, loaded with American fuel, and were put on target with high precision and accuracy. This implies that there were more involved than just amateurs or the "terrorists" - it was professional.

  • We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once.

True, he points out that we will probably attack Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq.

  • This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed -- for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush.

True, it's a trillion dollar war and counting, with no victory in sight.

  • All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now.

True, he points out the main reason for the war - oil.

  • He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why.

True, he points out the secondary effect - that it will be used as a means to violate liberty, everywhere.

Yeah

I'm clueless... clueless as to why everyone is so impressed by this video. Sure he said all those things, but I seem to recall that a lot of other people did too. Maybe he was more critical of bush then the television cheerleaders, but anybody could predict the implications on our foreign policies (more war) and civil liberties (kiss them goodbye) after such an event, regardless of who was really behind it. I would be much more impressed if he was raising suspicions about the events themselves on that day, because I am one of the few people who did.

When you titled the thread "Hunter S. Thompson Knew 9/11 Was A Sham On Day One: September 11, 2001", that is what I thought I was going to find. That is, I thought I would find some article or video where he is talking about the events of 9/11 being a false flag and such, but all I found was this lame video where he says a bunch of stuff that was very similar to what many other pundits were also saying, even from the beginning.

So go ahead and call me clueless, but all I did was ask what did thompson say that was significantly different from what many others were also saying. You have recounted things that thompson said, but apparently you don't rememeber that many others were saying similar things, only with more praise for bush. I maintain there is nothing remarkable about thompson's predictions. Anybody could have anticipated the same things he did, and many people did. If you didn't, don't go calling others "clueless".

A better title of the thread would be: "Hunter Thompson predicted the obvious aftermath of 9/11 from day 1"

Wow

I'm sorry I responded the way I did, and I'm sorry I called you clueless.

However, I don't believe you.

Fine,

it's up to you what you believe, and there's nothing wrong with being skeptical. Just be careful about jumping to conclusions without any basis. There was no Daily Paul in 2001 (by the way I was already a fan of Dr. Paul at that time, had you even heard of him yet?) and I doubt you and I knew each other in real life, either then or now, so how could you possibly speculate as to what I knew? If you had not yet awakened at the time, and if you had pretty much accepted the offical accounts, I suppose it is natural to doubt that there were people who rejected them from the get go, but believe whatever you choose.

In all fairness, if 9/11 had happened a decade earlier when I was still asleep, I may have bought into it myself (then again, it was just so obvious those towers were blown up that maybe that would have been the thing to wake me up). However, I began to awaken around '92 with the perot campaign and by the time the murrah building was blown up in okc I was already sufficently awake to suspect it was the govt who did that almost immediately.

By the time 9/11 happened, I was wide wake and fully aware of the reality of false flag events so it really wasn't difficult to see through them. Even after-the-fact-jfk-accessory dan rather said they resembled and reminded him of "old buildings" which were brought down by "well-placed dynamite" until the official narrative had worked its way through the media. I remember I was watching cnbc when the second tower came down and even master of the obvious mark haines commented there had to have been explosives in the buildings to make them come down like that. He never again said anything of the kind after that, but that was his spontaneous off the cuff remark, and I was agreeing with him as he said it. Once you realize the implications of pre-planted explosives, it is a piece-of-cake to figure out the rest is all lies.

No, I didn't know precisely who did the attacks and how, and I still don't, but I knew it was all staged. Once a person realizes we are dealing with a false flag event, it is fairly easy to put together what purposes the event will be exploited for. And even taking the events at face value, it's really not hard to anticipate the kinds of things that thompson was anticipating in this video. But whatever, believe what you will.

I'm not sure how sincere you were being when you said you were sorry, but I accept your apology. I get the feeling you might be a fan of thompson's work and my comments may have rubbed you the wrong way, so maybe I provoked you to some degree. I don't know anything else about you, so until contrary evidence presents itself I will presume by virtue of your membership here that you are a sincere lover of liberty who simply may have taken a little longer to awaken than some of the earlier risers, and you might take offense if someone doesn't share your (possible) affection for hunter thompson. Peace.

Second

that

Crazy!

Sounds like he may have known a little too much.

Or at least they thought he may have from his writings.

The line is fine between suspecting the truth and knowing it.

Either way - you're a marked man.

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amazing vision!

END the FED before it ENDS US

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Dude

Can we stop with the cynicism for just one second?

I'm as cynical as anyone but sometimes a cigar is a cigar. Now let's face it, there is a thin line between genius and insanity and Thompson straddled it.

The man admittedly did heavy doses of hallucinogens....Often. Which most likely contributed to both.

Some people see the world for what it really is with no more delusions and find it too ugly.

What's worse? To expose a horrible secret or to expose a horrible secret and be generally disregarded?

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Sorry, I deleted my comment before you had a chance to reply...

After rereading it, I had decided it did sound too cynical. You're right. Your reply is spot on.

And maybe my opinions, or any of our opinions for that matter, at this stage of the game, are really rather inconsequential anyway. Or illegal.
There I go being cynical again, lol. Sorry.
Peace :)

I'm curious what you had to say.

Your opinions are not illegal.

One thing that Hunter S. Thompson probably had more of than most writers, is life experience. In other words, he often wrote about things he experienced himself.

Experience provides more insight than anything else. Apparently, bilabr1n doesn't realize that much of what Thompson wrote above on 9/11 turned out to be accurate.

How could that be? Did he just get lucky? Or is it more likely that he's not as naive as most?

Well...

In my opinion, from what I've read, Hunter S. Thompson's knowledge of the facts went waaaay beyond 9/11.
He had to be eliminated.

I don't really want to elaborate on any of those details here.
I'll gladly send you some links though. :)

long time rolling stones' friends

wrote a biography about him. great book, but towards the end i had to put the book down because i didn't want to read about his tragic death.

got the sense, though, based on statements from wife that there is probably nothing in "gonzo" that supports any conspiracy of his death.

From what I remember,

the original news stories reported he was talking to his wife on the phone about their plans to work on a project later that evening, when he got out the gun and he shot himself. They must've realized that didn't make much sense, so the later versions had him sitting in his study without being on the phone.

unreal

forsight

I thought I heard he partied

I thought I heard he partied with Bush Jr. in his younger years.

It wouldn't surprise me. He hung out with all sorts of criminals

That would mean his criticism of Bush is qualified.

Bump

May He rest in peace.