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Flight 253 Passenger now a DP member.

I'd noticed someone using the name Kurt Haskell, had recently signed up as a member here. After confirming that it was the REAL Kurt Haskell, I have decided to make a post with his permission, to discuss this most important event that he and others witnessed.

Kurt and his wife were passengers on flight 253, the famous "underwear bomber" flight. If what he says is true (which I have no reason to believe it isn't), then he and others were front row to a blatant false flag operation.

This false flag has been used as the reasoning for all of the latest TSA abuse, and body scanner implementation.
Kurt and others WITNESSED, "Mr Firecracker Pants" as I like to call him, attempt to be WALKED ONTO THE PLANE WITH NO IDENTIFICATION.
EDIT:
Another passenger mentioned , that they witnessed a man with a video camera, standing up and FILMING the ENTIRE incident. The questions in this video, are pretty much some of the same questions I have.

Here is their CNN interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3hPsppsdNQ&feature=related

Watch (@ 4:35) that cockroach Chertoff, ADMIT that he has ties to the companies that are shoving the radioactive scanners down our throats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0pvnV7hcwI&feature=related

Kurt has stated that he will pop in from time to time, and discuss issues pertaining to this incident. As far as the rest of politics goes, he and I apparently share the same opinion as to what the solution for all this will be. I wont share that here.

I hope that you will welcome and acknowledge this brave individual for speaking up, and exposing the corruption and lies that are being forced on us.

His story not only needs to be told, but spread as far and wide as possible. His testimony is as important as William Rodriguez, Barry Jennings, and the firefighters on 9/11.
This could not be a clearer example of Problem, Reaction, Solution.

Kurt, thanks for speaking up, and welcome to the DP.



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glad you are here and sharing this with us Kurt

thank you.

my bet is one day -

- our children will read about Kurt and about us exposing the evil machine.

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here is the latest from Kurt

latest from Kurt:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/153035

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http://www.dailypaul.com/203008/south-carolina-battle-of-cow...
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

If true, this is a serious topic....

Which will require some extensive legal analysis...

http://fija.org
http://blogs.myspace.com/tom_heneghan_intel

It is quite blatant that the so called "underwear bomber" was allowed to board Flight 253, by the TSA, without even screening any of the passengers as Rand Paul has said in interviews.

Also, I'm amazed that the TSA kept camera footage too....really dumb on their part because it caught the whole crime on tape (and attornies have likely confiscated that)

I think it may be wise for Kurt to contact Rand Paul's staff right away and the Subcommittee so that next year we hold hearings on this very serious issue....

This could be enough to strip the TSA of its enormous "directive" that the Obama administration has given it. It may be enough to close down their illegal scanning program, so that no one else gets to suffer beneath its lunacy. Clearly Airport security needs a top to bottom reform.

Grand Jury: Underwear Bomber Had Co-Conspirators

"From in or about the year 2009, continuing up to and including December 25,2009, defendant Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, and others whose names are known and unknown to the grand jury, conspired to engage in an act of terrorism transcending national boundaries, involving conduct which was in violation of the laws of the United States. - http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/grand-jury%3A-und... -
Thought I post this to see if Kurt has to anything to say about this report. Of course, we already know from Kurt that there are co-conspirators.

Thanks

I saw this as well, and thought about this discussion.

Kurt

Is there a way to contact you directly if we would like to speak to you?

Contact Info

If anybody would like to talk to me, feel free to contact me through my lawfirm email:

Haskelllawfirm@comcast.net

Please be advised that I will be in the jungles of Thailand and will probably not have access to the internet for much of the period from December 11 to December 28.

Kurt

Thanks for the email
I just send you one.

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The vast majority of FBI

The vast majority of FBI Agents are patriotic Americans doing their best to protect us. They investigate and send their reports forward. The problem is at the top.

Just as in the case of the WTC Attack, the FBI had been tracking these known terrorists learning how to fly airliners. Agents have testified to this fact before Congress. The official line is, these reports "got lost". Well, who lost them? Congress doesn't seem to want to know.

Occasionally someone in the field will write a book about their personal experiences, like former SA Gary Aldrich's book, UNLIMITED ACCESS. Another book, YEAR OF THE RAT by Timperlake and Triplett, and a third, THE SECRET LIFE OF BILL CLINTON by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard illustrate the contempt the Clintons have for our law enforcement, our military, and our nation.

Agents in the field are used as pawns by these people. The problem is at the top. And the Congress is not interested in investigating the Executive Branch.

I will agree with you here.

All those who were appointed directly by the administration and then those hired on by them are trapped by the corporate system and cannot allow what the field officers investigate to get through to the public or to the court records. Period.

Welcome Mr. Haskell

Welcome Mr. Haskell. You'll make a good ally.

Hi Kurt

I've posted about you in every discussion about the Christmas / Underwear bomber.

Welcome Kurt

We could definitely use a lawyer on our side on this site, I am sure we will all be arrested eventually!!! I sent your CNN video viral and copied a great comment under the youtube video(by the way, Youtube is corrupt also, you will find as you hang in with us, we get censored all the time). Stick with us, it is a pretty rough ride to awakenedness. Whether you are Dem. or Rep, black or white, Christian or Muslim... If you're a middle class American like me? Don't let these motherfuckers pit us against each other by means of subversion. US becoming united is the greatest threat to the agenda of the ruling class

Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must. like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.-Thomas Paine

The R3volution requires action, not observation!!!!

This is a really interesting

This is a really interesting story. The underwear bomber case shaped a lot of policies over the last year.

welcome aboard Kurt

You have come to a good place here. I do remember your eye witness account on the AJ show. Its going to be a long haul but I do believe we will win in the end.

Must hear: NPR passenger account of the flight

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123821351

May I strongly suggest the link above to hear an interview with the young man who sat next to the underwear bomber on the plane. Read the comments from, shall we say, a "certain poster" going by the name of Tom Rand. I'm amazed those comments have not been pulled in almost a year. Spread it.

I never let my schooling interfere with my education - Mark Twain

Interesting..........

This is a very interesting interview. I think Mr. Rand is right on point.

re: NPR passenger account:

question:
would not a michigan student on a detroit bound trans-atlantic flight ALREADY HAVE A CHANGE OF CLOTHES (in his size and style) with him, in his luggage?

seat mate, eh? how convenient!

hmmm.. has a whiff of 'plant'-based stank to me....

most interesting thread

ive read in a long time

Thanks, indeed!

If everybody called "BS" every time they got their nose rubbed in it, we could improve our lot in a hurry.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Hello Kurt!

Glad to have you here. I saw on your Law Firm Facebook page that you went to visit the alleged Underwear Bomber in jail. Did you get to meet with him? Did you speak with him? What can you tell us?

I'm also wondering if you heard about the new full-body scanners coming from an Indian company, with partial ownership by the Indian government and if you think there is any connection between your flight, the well-dressed Indian man you saw - and the immediate calls for full-body scanners in the aftermath of your flight.

My visit with Umar

As to your first question, I made a blog post about it (I sometimes post on my wife Lori's blog). Here is the link:

http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-visit-to-see-um...

I haven't heard about the scanners coming from an Indian company. However, I think the sharp dressed Indian man was an American as he spoke perfect American English. He looked like the photo of David Headley in this article:

http://www.thelatestnews.in/information-on-headley-not-suffi...

However, note that David Headley was in prison on 12-25-09 and the picture of him from early December 2009 shows no facial hair.

There is definitely a connection. In my opinion, supported by the evidence and my eyewitness account, this was all a false flag event to get the Patriot Act renewed and the scanners in the airports. The U.S. Government is attempting to pull the wool over everbody's eyes. Umar is a mere patsy set up by the U.S. Government with an intentionally defective bomb.

Come on, the U.S. Government would never

intentionally set up some patsy with a defective bomb to accomplish an agenda...

Oh wait, Portland terror plot an FBI set-up?

Kurt, have they released the damn airport security video (unedited) that could once and for all prove just how wrong your version of the story obviously is?

Welcome aboard

and look forward to your perspective, thanks for coming forward with the truth when it was needed.

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

Hey Kurt

I remember your wife saying something about the guy with the video camera. Something like at first she thought it was kind of weird, but then thought the person may have been on vacation, and just excited and filming everything.

Where was this guy in relation to the U.B., and did he stand up right before it happened?

What was your impression of this guy?

Do you think he was there to somehow document the event?

Cameraman

Lori and I never saw this guy. He was sitting around row 30 directly behind Umar. Our view of his seat was blocked by the restroom. Most of what we know about him came from other passengers. I think Rachelle Keepman (sp?) gave a good account of this guy to the media. She said something like he stood up and began filming before the incident started and filmed all the way through it. This is very hard for me to comprehend. Trust me when I say that these were the most terrifying moments of my life and I was sure that I was going to die. I never would have dreamt of filming anything that was happening.

However, I do have some other knowledge of the cameraman. Earlier this year, I was contacted by another passenger that I had been corresponding with. I find him highly credible and his wife is the only other person to back up my account of the sharp dressed man (albeit privately). He indicated to me that he had been contacted by the cameraman. According to this passenger, the cameraman was a Dutch citizen who took a vacation to New York by himself (strangely, connecting through Detroit) and bought a new camcorder for the trip. According to this passenger, the cameraman also took still shots on the flight, some of which captured the man in orange that would be arrested after we landed. This passenger then suggested to the cameraman that he show me the still pictures of the man in orange (apparently, these were on film that he still had as the camcorder had been seized by the FBI) so that I could confirm his identity. The cameraman refused to contact me so the passenger gave me his contact info and I sent him two emails. The first was ignored and the second resulted in a responsive email from the cameraman's Dutch attorney. The responsive email merely requested a referral for an American aviation attorney as the cameraman apparently wanted to sue. There was no response as to my request to see the photos.
Make of this what you will................

Riveting..

"Trust me when I say that these were the most terrifying moments of my life and I was sure that I was going to die."

I could only imagine.

At what point in the flight did all of this start happening?
Do I remember you correctly if thought you said that you didn't hear anything, maybe a pop? How was he trying to set it off?

How did word spread that there was a 8omb? Did word spread like a shockwave from the front of the plane to you? Were people screaming? In the aisles?

Did it seem like more people on the plane could have been involved? Playing certain roles?

I know you don't like to speculate.
What a wild experience.

Answers.........

All of this started happening when we were descending into Detroit at an altitude of approximately 20,000ft. Note that the media has repeatedly said that it occurred at 10,000ft. I know that this is not the case as I was watching the seatback flight monitor when the fake bombing started. I am still not sure if this is significant in some way. If it is, I still haven't figured out why.

I didn't hear any popping, but many others including my wife heard popping sounds. I am not sure how he was trying to set off the fake bomb, but I believe he was mixing chemicals into his underwear under a blanket (I think).

Interestingly enough, we did not know at the time that he was lighting a bomb. It wasn't until the media reported the next day that it in fact was a PETN bomb. People were screaming "fire" "water, water, somebody get water over here" (that one sticks in my mind for some reason), one person, interestingly enough yelled "terrorist", even though we didn't yet know it was a bomb. Also, I distinctly remember a flight attendant standing near me in the aisle screaming at the top of her lungs. A flight attendant losing her cool is a very frightening thing to see.

I didn't get the impression at that time that anyone else on the plane was involved. Only later would that become a thought of mine.

Welcome Kurt

We're already FB friends :) thanks for all you do in getting the truth out, you're a true Patriot!

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