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Do you realize? That everyone you know, someday, will die.

Elizabeth Edwards 1949 - 2010

John Lennon 1940 - 1980

http://youtu.be/uzR7u4rwFSY

The amount of time all of us have left on this earth is both finite and unknown. There is nothing like death to put life into perspective. Like my cousin said when my father passed away, "None of us gets out of here alive."

In spite of the never ending crush of bad news, please don't forget the miracle that life is, and what is truly important in the time together that we are blessed with.

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Thank you for your story

I know what you mean about dying people talking to dead relatives, I have witnessed that.

Also, when both of my parents died, I felt it strongly right at the moment they died, even though I was not with them.

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just...

beautiful

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

The quote your cousin told

The quote your cousin told you was originally by Jim Morrison I believe. RIP.

"May the worship of diseases die with us."

-International oil expert Udo Erasmus

The notion that there is no cure for breast cancer is a myth. Those little pink ribbons you see everywhere, all of that reinforces the myth. There are natural cures and alternative treatments that offer hope and survival to suffering people, but our media, our culture ignores or even persecutes the doctors offering these treatments.

Cancer makes money. There can never be a cure for cancer, it is too profitable a disease. Even though there are cures for cancer, all you hear is, we need a cure, race for the cure, fight for the cure, there is no cure. Lies.

Wishes

I Wish everyone I know did. I Wish everyone could see how cool and informative this site truly is. Bless you Michael and all who help you make it happen. Realizing now about 3 of my 40 years here on the pale blue dot, I'm Glad to have a place to go get the truth. DP is an oasis in a desert!

Do You Want To Live Forever?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3329065877451441972#

Channel 4 Documentary following the revolutionary life-extension and immortality ideas of this somewhat eccentric scientist, Dr. Aubrey de Grey. This show is all about the radical ideas of a Cambridge biomedical gerontologist called Aubrey de Grey who believes that, within the next 20-30 years, we could extend life indefinitely by addressing seven major factors in the aging process.

( also posted here: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/147886 )

Been reading Zecharia Sitchin

about the incredible ages attributed to the Anunnaki in the ancient Sumerian texts, many tens of thousands of years. Sitchin says they gave man an extremely short lifespan by comparison and built virtual partitions in our brains to keep us from tapping our brain's full potential.

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I watched that!

When it was originally posted. It is a fascinating program. Then at the end of it all, they blow Aubrey de Grey out of the water as a fraud.

One of the things I do find amusing is that every generation seems to think that immortality is 'just around the corner.'

Robert Anton Wilson talked about it a lot, but of course, now he's dead.

The guru du jour is Ray Kurzweil, but only time will tell if he's right, or if he's just a nut.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

Kurzweil is a nut, I think

I'm betting "nut" or soon to be obsolete futurist. He's too obsessed with nanorobots- but one can't say that nanorobot-enhanced humans will necessarily want to create the "singularity"..I think he gets ahead of himself.

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My understanding of the singularity

is that its not about whether enhanced humans will 'want' to create it or not...

As I understand it, it will simply occur when computers exceed the intelligence of the human mind, and they go off and do whatever they're going to do once that happens. Its impossible to predict what will happen at that point, which is why it is a 'singularity.'

I suspect he might be a nut, too, but those are the most interesting kinds of people. :) I believe he says that the rate of change is increasing so fast that as we approach the singularity, change will be so fast and abrupt that it will be discontinuous.

In a lot of ways it is hard to imagine. On the other hand, this website would have been hard to imagine a decade ago.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

Singularity

Ok, I thought Kurzweil was saying that in order for computers to outwit humans, humans had to be nanorobot-enhanced first, to make those computers. If that were the case, I'm wondering how solid any prediction is about what an enhanced human would feel inclined to do- create big scary computers that will outwit him, and bring on the singularity, or do something more sensible and controlled?

Things are getting mighty weird, as you said, and in a sense computers do overpower humans already.

good ol'e MSM ha ha

However ... I am fascinated by how much beer the man can drink! LOL!

isn't anyone w/ a brain a nut? ha ha...

Thanks for posting this, Michael

My father died on Friday, and you are correct. I should add, that the quality of healthcare someone gets at the end of their life depends on individuals. Nurses and Doctors, and their character. The institutions and bureaucracy don't help at all.

My condolences

Hope you have many comforts to console you in your loss. Losing my father was extremely difficult, especially since he was killed by hospital incompetence and negligence. So...I know what you mean.

Just wanted to express my sympathy.

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ironman,

I'm sorry to hear about your father.

I happened to be driving around today, listening to the radio, and I heard that Elizabeth Edwards' cancer had spread to her liver, which is how my mother died.

It is an important point that you raise, that I will expand upon, if I may. It all comes down to individuals - everything. I suppose that is the most important thing that I've learned, or realized, from Ron Paul, and it dovetails with what Sandy says below. Be yourself, and be the best self you can be.

Take care ironman.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

True that

take care

So sorry to hear about YOUR loss, too!

I also lost my mother to cancer. We have more in common with people than we realize sometimes.

Michael

We all die every day and we are born again every day bit by bit....

I know reincarnation is true...if you are bad you get a new life as a...bed bug.

People that steal things like banksters they will learn their lessons in their next lives things will be stolen from them and they will have to experience misery.

Karma...

Universe is Just Universe (God) His Light seperates the clean from the unclean.

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

actually nope

if the government stops funding biomedical research and i have a friend who's working in labs--99% of their clients are government institutions/grants one way or another--we could have dramatic explosion in medical advancements.

i suspect in a couple years when the system crumbles and the government can no longer hold the bio industry hostage, there will be an explosion of growth.

the technicians are in place, the infrastructure is there and the tools are there--all they need is a rigorous manager and entrepreneur to make the industry smarter.

there's no doubt immortality will soon be realized.

Unfortunately, the

Unfortunately, the government's stranglehold on deployment of drugs and medical treatments through the FDA will likely continue to bottleneck the technology unless the "system" does more than merely "collapse".

IMHO it's already too late for the Boomers and Xers. (Which is particularly annoying since I'm a Boomer.)

(Back when I was cutting my adult teeth I thought that, by the time I was about 40 or so, we'd be able to provoke the growth of a third set of teeth to replace any that needed it. Now I'm 63 with a mouthful of root-canals, crowns, and inlays. And I'm midway through getting a replacement for the first one that was completely unrepairable - which will be a metal post with a ceramic cap. B-b )

And if the government completes its takeover of medical service via Obamacare, you can forget about ANY life-extension treatments at all. The bureaucrats see any treatment that extends life as putting an additional load on the already bankrupt system. As far as they're concerned, once the cattle are too old to be milked it's time for them to die off and be replaced by younger, healthier, and more nanny-state voting calves.

The REAL goal of the life-extension folk is to cure disease AND age (which would enable continued productive life). They worked it out once: If aging and disease were licked and people had only accidental death to worry about, at the accident rate of someone in their late teens to early twenties (relatively high), life expectancy would be about 850 years. Of course they worked that out a couple decades back, and there's been a LOT of improvements in trauma care since then. B-)

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Thanks

This a thought I have been thinking about with more regularity.

And the deeper it sinks in the more I compassion I am finding within myself,

and the more I find myself laughing at the absurdity of what it is that passes for 'life', 'responsibility', and 'ethics'

It's as if, we're mesmerized by 'the struggle' for liberty. Or maybe it's all a struggle for power.

It seems as though if people really became comfortable with this thought, this realization, 'we' would just start ignoring the 'powerful' and start living our own lives.

Thanks for making this a front page topic.

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Yes

And the deeper it sinks in the more I compassion I am finding within myself, and the more I find myself laughing at the absurdity of what it is that passes for 'life', 'responsibility', and 'ethics'

Me, too.

Thank you for letting me know I'm not alone

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

We concur, and apparently are not the only ones...

I had Thanksgiving dinner at a fellow Messianic believer's home, and to a person, they all agreed it was better to 'die on their feet than live on their knees."

To all who are dealing with loved ones close to death, hospice will offer far more compassionate care than a hospital, mostly because they are equipped to deal with end-of life issues in a more natural way. When my dad was dying of cancer, they were a great blessing to all of us.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Unfortunately

A mans stature is not measured by his deeds in the living but by how many come to the funeral.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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I guess it depends

on who's doing the measuring...

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.

Very true Michael

It is a funny phenomena I have watched over the years,I have seen rich persons that gave monetarily to a community and had thousands of friends while living have only five attend their funeral.I have seen poor persons with very few friends that could only afford to give their heart and hands to the community have hundreds attend their funeral.

In seeing this, I have always wondered who was the one better off,The one with the money or the one with the kind heart.The measuring seems to always come at the last.

Thank you for posting this Mr. Nystrom.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

What a beautiful video.

Yes I realize, and that is why it is important for me to just be myself, I won't get another chance.
Peace begins with me.

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Yes, or as Oscar Wilde put it,

"Be yourself. Everyone else is taken."

:)

You are an inspiration to me, Sandy.

Peace begins with me.

All art is only done by the individual. The individual is all you ever have, and all schools only serve to classify their members as failures. E.H.