8 votes

Jesus Christ, Libertarian

Then the scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery and made her stand in the middle. They said to him, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the very act of committing adultery. Now in the law, Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?" They said this to test him, so that they could have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and began to write on the ground with his finger. But when they continued asking him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he bent down and wrote on the ground. And in response, they went away one by one, beginning with the elders. So he was left alone with the woman before him. Then Jesus straightened up and said to her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?" She replied, "No one, sir." Then Jesus said, "Neither do I condemn you. Go, (and) from now on do not sin anymore." (John 8: 3-11)

As we approach the new year with conservatism again ascendant in the political sphere, this story of Jesus’ uncompromising libertarianism seems even more timely than stories of his birth, despite the approach of his celebrated birthday. Nowhere does Jesus admonish “social conservatives” more harshly.

There is an important distinction here. By “social conservative,” I do not mean anyone who disapproves of certain human behavior. The freedom to follow the dictates of one’s conscience was the first inalienable right recognized by the founders of our nation. If one truly believes that homosexuality, adultery, or other “non-conservative” behavior violates the laws of God, it is that person’s inalienable right to disapprove of it, even to voice his disapproval of it, regardless of the anguished cries of the political correctness lobby on the left.

However, no one has a right to use violence against those who engage in behavior that does not harm another person, regardless of whether or not that behavior violates the laws of God. Since all laws are enforced under the threat of violence (as this story illustrates wonderfully), Jesus makes it clear in this passage that it is not for men to enforce the laws of God. With the exception of cases in which one human being has done injury to another, the right to punish human behavior is reserved for God.

It is important to recognize that Jesus does not condone the sin that the anonymous woman has committed. When he has shamed away the mob who would have stoned her, Jesus commands her to sin no more. Neither does he insinuate that her behavior might not have consequences for her soul. With flawless libertarian reasoning, Jesus teaches us the true meaning of freedom: that God grants us the liberty to do as we wish, even to reject him and his laws, but that we also bear the full consequences of our actions. If we harm another person, then we are subject to the laws of men. However, it is otherwise left to each individual to determine the will of God according to his conscience and to choose whether to act accordingly or not. There never has been nor can there ever be any body of corruptible men who can save an individual’s soul.

This is by no means the only place in the gospels that Jesus teaches us this lesson. His entire public ministry was one condemnation after another of the hypocritical, socially conservative theocracy. Indeed, it is the Jewish state that is Jesus’ chief antagonist throughout the gospels. He is noticeably disinterested in the more secular Roman government, despite its tyranny over his people. While he certainly doesn’t approve of the Romans, he has no interest in political revolution. As Jesus tells Pilate, “my kingdom is not of this world.” (John 18:36). However, his own government does not merely commit secular, political oppression against its people. It usurps the authority of God and attempts to judge in his place. For this, Jesus constantly lets loose his most venomous reproaches.

Throughout the gospels, “the chief priests and Pharisees” are constantly shown up for what they are. They do not seek to punish sins to defend the honor of God, but for their own selfish political motives. Their persecution and eventual murder of Jesus himself is quite obviously perpetrated out of fear of his influence over the people. And what is this subversive influence that warrants torture and death? “Love one another as I have loved you. Love your enemies. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Of course the state would hate such a message. It runs afoul of every depravity that the state tries to exhort its citizens to, including its wars, its persecution of non-conformists, and its rampant looting of the citizenry dressed up as “public works.”

When Jesus encounters man-made laws masquerading as the laws of God, he openly condones breaking those laws. When his disciples pick fruit on the Sabbath and are caught in the act by the Pharisees, Jesus beats the Pharisees at their own game by citing Jewish scripture, which describes David actually eating sacred bread out of the temple, reserved for the priests by Jewish law.

Demonstrating how perverse any theocratic state eventually becomes, the Pharisees then bring a man forward with a “withered hand,” daring Jesus to cure him and break the law himself. They are willing to see this man miss his one chance to be cured in the hopes that they can use their distorted interpretation of God’s command to “keep holy the Sabbath” to ensnare Jesus for political ends. Jesus breaks the law without hesitation, saying that “it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.” Caring little for the wisdom of the lesson and interested only in maintaining their own autocratic power, the Pharisees withdraw to begin planning Jesus’ murder. (Matthew 12: 1-14)

By attempting to use the law to enforce their morality, social conservatives violate the very principles that they say that they cherish most. Social conservatives decry Islam because it attempts to “propagate the faith by the sword.” However, there is only a cosmetic difference between promoting your religious views through acts of terrorism and doing likewise through passing unjust laws against minorities who have no recourse but to obey or suffer violence. In both cases, it is the sword that compels the victim rather than the mind or the heart. Neither can social conservatives rely on the argument that their laws are passed by an elected body representing the people. If that justifies socially conservative laws, then what is their objection to the welfare state?

No part of this argument should be misconstrued as an endorsement of political correctness or the left’s agenda to grant positive rights to their own special interest groups for political purposes. If we are truly a free country and we meant what we said in the first amendment to our Constitution, then every individual, whether the most fundamentalist Christian or the most libertine atheist, should have the right to speak freely, even if what they say offends another person. For many devout Christians, it is their sacred duty to try to persuade their fellow man to repent of his sins and embrace Jesus as his savior.

However, there is an ocean of difference between persuasion and coercion. The minute that we say, “there ought to be a law,” we are picking up the sword. If we do so in defense of the inalienable human rights of life, liberty, and property, we are within our rightful authority. If we do so to supplant the authority of God, we become the very type of people that Jesus spent his life fighting against. To truly be Christian, we must recognize the need for “a wall of separation between church and state.”

Jesus was very clear about his views on what would lead to salvation and what would not. Jesus condemned many behaviors, like adultery, that social conservatives likewise condemn. He also said that “no one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6) However, he does not go on to say, “Therefore, if your brother does not come to me willingly, then draw your sword and force him.” Salvation must be chosen; God did not create a race of slaves.

As we celebrate the birth of this great libertarian, let us not forget the lesson of his life and death. Jesus was murdered by the theocratic state for exposing their hypocrisy and resisting their unjust, blasphemous laws. Let us follow his example of speaking our minds according to our consciences but never raising our hand to save our brothers’ souls. Each one of us will ultimately find that our understanding of the will of God is imperfect, as we are imperfect. Therefore, we must follow Jesus’ example of tolerance and forgiveness, lest we find that we ourselves have mistakenly punished the innocent. Our laws should keep us from harming each other, and leave each person’s soul to the judgment of God.

Check out Tom Mullen’s book, A Return to Common Sense: Reawakening Liberty in the Inhabitants of America. Right Here!

Home

© Thomas Mullen 2010




Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

a pertinent post, even now...

Friendly re-bump. (For those who have never seen it)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

True Name-Words.

Firstly, so said the Maseah, in Matthew 12:36-7,
Quote=36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of Judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.=Unquote.
http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?pas...

The teaching is so clear and easy, to be careful with words. One has to be humble, to care for, and give attention with reverence. A person canNot receive teachings without humility, and an openness to correction. No one who accepts correction is belittled or devalued. Actually the opposite is true, True Knowledge increases value / worth.

Of all words we know the name-word is most important.
Calling the right name-word was the teaching of the 1st man, Adam. His name has remained unchanged, without contro'versy, No explanations, discussion, debate or argument.

Matthew 5:27 = All you need to say is "Yes", if you mean yes, and "No" if you mean no,- any more comes from evil.

Now to the question about the name of the Maseah, son of Maryum, has anyone received sanction from him to call as "Jesus" ??
All Christians do not agree with that, therefore a consensus is required, ask the scholars to put their heads together, study and remove controversy, reduce confusion, and offer/announce the true name, as called by his mother.
With humbleness, correction is required, revert to the True, original & authentic, recorded & verifiable, agreed upon, and
most important = acceptable to him.

You're missing some ...

Not to let the words of Jesus be taken out of context, but the full verse is this, and it speaks volumes:

Matthew 12:30-36

"30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathers not with me scatters abroad.
"31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men.
"32 And whosoever speaks a word against the Son of man (that is Jesus,) it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
"33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
"34 O generation of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
"35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart brings forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
"36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
"37 For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned..."

It's the principal error of Hermeneutics, Theosophy and Gnosticism to debase the Holy Scriptures and to inject new meanings into them through dialectic philosophy. You can take one line from any writen text and make it mean anything you want! That, my friend, is the very act Jesus just called "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit," the True author of all Scripture. Really, the Truth is a very simple, spiritual matter of the heart ... And it burdens mine that there are many, many today that are doing this ... From pastors to laymen alike. Once you have decided that your own opinions are superior to those written in Scripture, there really is no turning back, just like Jesus said.

Now, what's all this nonsense about names, anyway? If you're Jewish, you can call on Yeshua to save you. If you're Mexican, you can call on Hezus Christos. Ephesians 1:20-23 says:

"20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised Him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
"21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
"22 And has put all things under His feet, and gave Him to be the head over all things to the Church,
"23 Which is His body, the fullness of Him that fills all in all."

Whatever the Name, there is only One Jesus. He is the One and Only Head of the Literal Church, not just some specific denomination or a specific linguistic group. You can even call out to Jesus by poking your palms with your fingers ... That is sign language for His Name! To really understand what it means to call on Jesus Christ in spirit, the only thing that will bring you Eternal Life, you have to be born again. You need to earnestly want His forgiveness to possess a new heart and a renewed mind in spirit. For as Jesus said to Nicodemus in John 3:3,

"Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."

I hope that's you, because I would love to continue these discussions forever with you someday at the feet of The Master!

Love in Jesus,
C.R.C.

I have a few quotes

you might consider...

And I have declared unto them Your Name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith You have loved me may be in them, and I in them. ~ John 17:26

I am come in my Father's Name, and you receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive. ~ John 5:43

And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. ~ John 14:13

Who has established all the ends of the earth? what is His Name, and what is His Son's Name, if you know it? Every word of Alahym is pure: He is a shield unto them that put their trust in Him. Do not add to His words, lest He reprove you, and you be found a liar. ~ Proverbs 30:4-6

...Your people are called by Your Name. ~ Daniel 9:19

...let sound wisdom see Your Name. ~ Micah 6:9

I am YaHUaH, that is My Name; And My esteem I will not give to another ~ Isaiah 42:8

This is My Name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations. ~ Exodus 3:15

You shall not bring ALEPH TAV Name YaHUaH your Alahym to nothing, for no innocence... ~Exodus 20:7

Everyone who calls on the Name of YaHUaH shall be saved. ~ Joel 2:32

The Name of YaHUaH is a strong tower; the righteous run to it and are safe. ~ Proverbs 18:10

Though all people walk every one in the name of his alahym, We will walk in the Name of YaHUaH our Alahym for ever and ever. ~ Micah 4:5

For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the Name of YaHUaH, to serve Him with one consent. ~ Zephaniah 3:9

And I shall bring the third into fire and refine them as silver is refined and try them as gold is tried. They shall call on My Name and I shall answer them. I shall say, ‘This is My people,’ while they say, ‘YaHUaH is my Alahym.’ ~ Zechariah 13:9

And YaHUaH will be Sovereign over all the earth: in that day there will be one YaHUaH and His Name one. ~ Zechariah 14:9

For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the esteem of YaHUaH, as the waters cover the sea. ~ Habakkuk 2:14

you shall be hated by all for My Name’s sake. But he who shall have endured to the end shall be saved. ~ Matt 10:22

Because he cleaves to Me in love, Therefore I deliver him; I set him on high because he has known My Name. ~ Psalm 91:14

O YaHUaH, I pray, please let Your ear be attentive to the prayer of Your servant and to the prayer of Your servants who delight to fear Your Name. ~ Nehemiah 1:11

"And now, what have I here,” declares YaHUaH, “that My people are taken away for naught? Those who rule over them make them wail,” declares YaHUaH, “and My Name is despised all day continually. Therefore My people shall know My Name, in that day, for I am the One who is speaking. See, it is I." ~ Isaiah 52:5-6

And it shall be, the man who does not listen to My Words which He speaks in My Name, I require it of him. But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the Name of other mighty ones, even that prophet shall die. And when you say in your heart, ‘How do we know the word which YaHUaH has not spoken?’ – when the prophet speaks in the Name of YaHUaH and the word is not, or comes not, that is the word which YaHUaH has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him. ~ Deuteronomy 18:19-22

How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, even the prophets of the deceit of their own heart? who think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbor, as their fathers forgot my name for Baal. The prophet who has a dream, let him tell a dream; and he who has my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the straw to the wheat? says YaHUaH. Is not my word like fire? says YaHUaH; and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? ~ Jeremiah 23:26-27

But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. ~ John 15:21

If they have called the Master of the house Ba`al-Zibbul, how much more those of His household! ~ Matthew 10:25

Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, [saying], I have both glorified [it], and will glorify [it] again. ~ John 12:28

The fear of YaHUaH is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. ~ Proverbs 1:7

The fear of the YaHUaH is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding. To him belongs eternal praise. ~ Psalm 111:10

See, the fear of YaHUaH, that is wisdom and to turn from evil is understanding. ~ Job 28:28

Hear, O Israel,

YaHUaH ALaHYNU YaHUaH AChaD*

And thou shalt love YaHUaH thy Alahym with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart.

And you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up.

And you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. And you shall write them on the posts of your house, and on your gates. ~ Deut 6:4-9

Now to Mark 12...

The first of all the commandments is,

Hear, O Israel,

YaHUaH ALaHYNU YaHUaH AChaD*

And thou shalt love YaHUaH thy Alahym with all thine heart...

And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: thou hast well said that he is one* ; and there is none other but he.

...he said unto him, You are not far from the kingdom of Alahym.

*First

Woe unto you, lawyers! for you have taken away the key of knowledge: you entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in you hindered. ~ Luke 11:52

And now, O priests, this command is for you. If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay [it] to heart, to give glory to My Name, saith YaHUaH of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay [it] to heart. ~ Malachi 2:2

and make no mention of the name of other alahym, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth. ~ Exodus 23:13

O YaHUaH, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing. Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on Thy Name ~ YermeYahu (Jeremiah) 10:24-25

Thus they shall put My Name on the children of Yisra’ĕl and I Myself shall bless them. ~ Numbers 6:27

...they shall set-apart My Name and set-apart the set-apart One of Ya‛aqoḇ and fear the Alahym of Yisra’ĕl. And those who went astray in spirit shall come to understanding and the grumblers accept instruction. ~ Isaiah 29:23-24

I have stirred up one from the north and he comes; from the rising of the sun he calls on My Name. And he comes against princes as though mortar, as the potter treads clay. ~ Isaiah 41:25

And it shall be, if they learn well the ways of My people, to swear by My Name, ‘As YaHUaH lives,’ as they taught My people to swear by Ba‛al, then they shall be established in the midst of My people. But if they do not obey, I shall pluck up, pluck up and destroy that nation,” declares YaHUaH. ~ Jeremiah 12:16-17

A son esteems his father and a servant his master. And if I am the Father, where is My esteem? And if I am a Master, where is My fear? said YaHUaH of hosts to you priests who despise My Name. But you asked,‘In what way have we despised Your Name? ~ Malachi 1:6

"For I am a great Sovereign," said YaHUaH of hosts, “and My Name is feared among nations." ~ Malachi 1:14

Then shall those who fear YaHUaH speak to one another, and YaHUaH listen and hear, and a book of remembrance be written before Him, of those who fear YaHUaH and those who think upon His Name. “And they shall be Mine,” said YaHUaH of hosts, “on the day that I prepare a treasured possession. And I shall spare them as a man spares his own son who serves him. Then you shall again see the difference between the righteous and the wrong, between one who serves Alahym and one who does not serve Him. ~ Malachi 3:16-18

And My people upon whom My Name is called, shall humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their evil ways, then I shall hear from the heavens and forgive, their sin and heal their land. ~ 2 Chronicles 7:14

For where two or three are gathered together in My Name, there I am in their midst. ~ Matthew 18:20

And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or lands for My Name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold and shall inherit everlasting life. ~ Matthew 19:29

Then they shall deliver you up to affliction and kill you and you shall be hated by all nations for My Name’s sake. ~ Matthew 24:9

And these signs shall accompany the ones who believe: In My Name they shall cast out demons, they shall speak with renewed tongues, they shall take up snakes and if they drink any deadly drink it shall by no means hurt them, they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall get well. ~ Mark 16:17

And He said, “See that you are not led astray, for many shall come in My Name, saying, ‘I am,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Then do not go after them. ~ Luke 21:8

But the Helper, the Set-apart Spirit, whom the Father shall send in My Name, He shall teach you all, and remind you of all that I said to you. ~ John 14:26

so that the remnant of mankind shall seek YaHUaH, even all the gentiles on whom My Name has been called, says YaHUaH who is doing all this ~ Acts 15:17

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this same purpose I have raised you up, to show My power in you and that My Name be declared in all the earth.' ~ Romans 9:17

and you have been bearing up and have endurance and have labored for My Name’s sake and have not become weary. ~ Revelation 2:3

.

Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Labour of Love,

thanks. who can deny well preserved Scripture, reading the above confirms the emphasis is on The Name. Therefore all should give attention to what is posted above. It may appear longish but for those who realize the importance it is only very brief. I do Not need to add more, you have made a fair selection, so I will copy a few from above.

The Name of YaHUaH is a strong tower; the righteous run to it and are safe. ~ Proverbs 18:10
And YaHUaH will be Sovereign over all the earth: in that day there will be one YaHUaH and His Name one. ~ Zechariah 14:9
For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the Name of YaHUaH, to serve Him with one consent. ~ Zephaniah 3:9
and you have been bearing up and have endurance and have labored for My Name’s sake and have not become weary. ~ Revelation 2:3

The last one bears evidence you are on the right track, the rite way, write well. May you find more spiritual strength, to search & share the Truth. Hope more folks give attention to your post, no need to add, but bumps will help.

Thanks

for the support.

I missed a few though...

And when eight days were completed
for Him to be circumcised, His Name
was called YaHUShA, the Name given
by the messenger before He was
conceived in the womb. ~ Luke 2:21

for I say to you, from now on you
shall by no means see Me, until you say,
Blessed is He who is coming in the
Name of YaHUaH! ~ Matt 23:39

He who believes in Him is not
judged, but he who does not believe
is judged already, because he has
not believed in the Name of the only
brought-forth Son of Alahym. ~ John 3:18

I do not have silver
and gold, but what I do possess, this
I give you: In the Name of YaHUShA
Messiah of Natsareth, rise up and walk. ~ Acts 3:6

...By what power or in what Name did you do this?...

let it be known to all of you and
to all the people of Yisra’ĕl, that in
the Name of YaHUShA Messiah of
Natsareth, whom you impaled, whom
Alahym raised from the dead, by Him
this one stands before you, healthy.
This is ‘the stone which was rejected
by you builders, which has become the
chief cornerstone.’
And there is no deliverance in
anyone else, for there is no other Name
under the heavens given among men by
which we need to be saved...

...And they called them and
commanded them not to speak at all
nor to teach in the Name of YaHUShA.

~ Acts 4

...beating them, they commanded that they should
not speak in the Name of YaHUShA and
let them go.
Then indeed they went rejoicing from
the presence of the council, because
they were counted worthy to suffer
shame for His Name. ~ Acts 5:40-41

Alahym, therefore, has highly exalted
Him and given Him the Name which is
above every name,
that at the Name of YaHUShA every
knee should bow, of those in heaven and
of those on earth and of those under the
earth, and every tongue should confess that
YaHUShA Messiah is Master, to the
esteem of Alahym the Father. ~ Philippians 2:9-10

And whatever you do in word or
deed, do all in the Name of the Master
YaHUShA, giving thanks to Alahym the
Father through Him. ~ Colossians 3:17

However, the solid foundation of
Alahym stands firm, having this seal,
“YaHUaH knows those who are His,”
and, “Let everyone who names the
Name of Messiah turn away from
unrighteousness.” ~ 2 Timothy 2:19

If you are reproached for the Name
of Messiah, you are blessed, because
the Spirit of esteem and of Alahym
rests upon you. On their part He is
blasphemed, but on your part He is
praised. ~ 1 Peter 4:14

And this is His command, that we
should believe in the Name of His
Son YaHUShA Messiah and love one
another, as He gave us command. ~ 1 John 3:23

I write to you, little children, because
your sins have been forgiven on account
of His Name. ~ 1 John 2:12

I have written this to you who
believe in the Name of the Son of
Alahym, so that you know that you
possess everlasting life and so that
you believe in the Name of the Son of
Alahym. ~ 1 John 5:13

And they shall see His face and His
Name shall be upon their foreheads. ~ Revelation 22:4

Therefore, go and make taught ones
of all the nations, immersing them in
the Name of the Father and of the Son
and of the Set-apart Spirit,
teaching them to guard all that I have
commanded you. And see, I am with
you always, until the end of the age.
Aman. ~ Matt 28:19-20

.

Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

regretfully

There are as many ignorant comments here as there are intelligent ones. What can be said about the blatantly ignorant ones? What can a fireman say to the man who returns to his house to save his belongings? The fire shall be the judge.

But this blog post is beautiful regardless. God bless you Tom Mullen, and thanks again.

Love in Jesus
C.R.C.

Bastiat vs. Jesus?

It seems like there is a lot in libertarianism that conflicts with the teachings of Jesus: http://bastiatvjesus.tumblr.com/

Care to comment on this?

Could you

clarify what exactly the conflict is?

And check this out for clarity regarding the rich man who was told to sell his things and give to the poor...

When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, [which is] the year of tithing, and hast given [it] unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled; Then thou shalt say before the YaHUaH thy Elohim, I have brought away the hallowed things out of [mine] house, and also have given them unto the Levite, and unto the stranger, to the fatherless, and to the widow, according to all thy commandments which thou hast commanded me: I have not transgressed thy commandments, neither have I forgotten [them]: I have not eaten thereof in my mourning, neither have I taken away [ought] thereof for [any] unclean [use], nor given [ought] thereof for the dead: [but] I have hearkened to the voice of the YaHUaH my Elohim, [and] have done according to all that thou hast commanded me. Look down from thy holy habitation, from heaven, and bless thy people Israel, and the land which thou hast given us, as thou swarest unto our fathers, a land that floweth with milk and honey.

More laws for the poor:
http://www.dailypaul.com/152875/welfare

.

Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Spritual and Material,

Sometime back I had read Bastiat's "The Law", and was/am quite impressed with his reason, logic, sense of fairness, and his idea of the role of Law. These writers have their limits, can Not find solutions to the problem of u$ury + %.
Before saying more I will revert back to Scripture.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+12&...
Copy-pasted, Ecclesiastes 12 (New International Version).

THE CONCLUSION OF THE MATTER.
9 Not only was the Teacher wise, but also he imparted knowledge to the people. He pondered and searched out and set in order many proverbs. 10 The Teacher searched to find just the right words, and what he wrote was upright and true.

11 The words of the wise are like goads, their collected sayings like firmly embedded nails—given by one Shepherd. 12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them.
Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.

13 Now all has been heard;
here is the conclusion of the matter:
Fear your Creator and keep his commandments,
for this is the whole duty of man.

14 For your Lord will bring every deed into judgment,
including every hidden thing,
whether it is good or evil.

Qualities of Name.

The most important thing about any being/individual/person is the name. Name has certain qualities, is customary.
Listed here are some we know, name is that:-

1.- Voice Sound, by which to call, mention or remember.

2.- Written Word, can be transliteration, must carry the same sound. Not translated/changed/altered/substituted while mentioning in another language of script.

3.- Vital Sign, of, for, or related to the individual.
As mentioned in the ID-Card, ticket, passport, visa, title documents, records, in lineage, inheritance, etc.

Consider Honor, respect & custom, = those who were before give/call name to those that came later, i.e. father/parents give name to child, so a child does Not give (proper)names to parents, but can call mama/papa.

"ADAM", is a fine example. It has Not changed with time,
tongue/language, religion/sect, station/location, alive or dead, is uni'versal.

Christianity relates to the word -"Christ", a mistranslation of the aramaic/hebrew/arabic word "Maseeh".
This is a title-word attributed to the son of Mary'um.
As for his name-word, there is controversy there too, you may need another thread/page for that topic/subject. Surely we all know that it was Not "Jesus", but is repeated.

There are many references in Scriptures that Name must be honored, respected, and holy ones be revered.

No you don't

You say: "As for his name-word, there is controversy there too, you may need another thread/page for that topic/subject."

I know 100% what His Name is and it doesn't require a whole new thread to prove it. And it is evident in the original King James or the Greek text itself. Later translations noticed the error that they made and have since covered it.

After the Hebrews left Egypt and wandered in the wilderness for 40 years Mosheh (Moses) wasn't allowed to lead them into the promised land so the job of leading them into the land was handed over to Yahshua the son of Nun. As a matter of fact Mosheh had earlier changed the mans name to Yahshua because the meaning of Hebrew names is very important and Yahshua means "Yahweh's Salvation". Yahshua (son of Nun) is mentioned twice in the New Testament and both times his name is translated as JESUS yet the name is exactly the same as the Messiah's. Acts 7:45, Heb 4:8 This proves that the Messiahs Name is Yahshua.

A few more facts: The name Jesus didn't appear until a few hundred years ago because the letter "J" wasn't used before then. In the 1611 King James it is spelled Iesus. Look it up.
But the name Iesus couldn't be the true name of the Messiah because the Greek always added the "s" to denote the masculine, supposedly in honor of Zeus.

Yahshua or Jezus ?

thank you for your attention and explanations.
You said - "I know 100% - - - ".

The eastern churches and the area around his birthplace, copt, armenia, syria, iraq and many others call & write the name as "Yesu".
The western world and anglish speakers write "Jesus", say "Jezus", spanish sounds as "kHesus".
In this decade some folks & yourself assert "Yahshua".

We must care for the name called by his mother "_______",
Not translated, only transliterated, = same voice sound.

Then we will see if we can request & convince Tom Mullen to edit the title of page, type-in right/correct name.

This is because the Maseah, son of Maryum, is the only man in recorded history who specifically requested more than once - "My name - - - ". With an index of NT we can confirm it.
We must honor that,- right?

My comment above and the reply below was to assert / insist on the original-title "Maseah", instead of the translation "Christ".

Tom Mullen's picture

I thought that both "Messiah" (Hebrew) and "Christ (christos)"

meant "anointed one?" Isn't this where the latin word "chrism" comes from?

Yes:

The Latin word "CHRISM," which is an anointing oil, is χριστός in the original Greek, or Christos in phonetic English. It is identical to the Hebrew noun המשיח which literally means Messiah--Redeemer, The Anointed One. In English, this is always translated as Christ. In the tradition of the ancient Hebrews, only One would come and fulfill Scripture by claiming that title--Jesus was that One Christ.

Tom, thank you for such a heart-felt blog entry. I was greatly blessed to see it posted here on DP. While Jesus Himself would never agree with His ministry being political or libertarian, certainly many who love Him, and many who know Him as Lord and Savior, are political libertarians. The two aren't mutually inclusive, but I was pleased to see your distinction between a "political Jesus" and a personal Jesus in quoting John 18:36. This post is very beautiful and well said.

But even the literal Jesus, who did not attempt to change government but came to change man himself, can help us as human beings see more clearly the need for autonomous freedom before the Creator God. His teachings of righteous forgiveness are exactly what we as individuals need to consider when faced with the myriad problems presented by the world we live in today. You have shown how well a spiritual Truth fits the political truths this site stands for, and I was particularly impressed by your treatment of the spiritual aspect of Jesus--anyone can use His teachings to spin a political or world-view, but you did not neglect the most important aspect of His Being: the confession of His Name, Jesus Christ, as Savior.

I would be greatly interested in reading your book!

Something you should take note of though, and something that has struck me as unsettling from the comments you have received from this blog post: You will be hearing a lot of confusion in the coming years regarding that Name, "Yeshua". The debate over names, of course, is an age-old one. I saw where one post stated that the Name "Jesus" is relatively new, and that the Greek rendering (just like the Hebrew) began with an "I". That is True! But, in respect to His Hebrew Name, there is a total lack of respect coming from many who like to comment. These are not Bible scholars.

In studying Hebrew, I have come to adore the Name of God, JEHOVAH (the Hebrew spelling is יהוה, IHVH.) Jesus was from the house of David, a Hebrew house ... Then why does He have a Greek name? I had wondered this from the beginning of my salvation in 2009 ... He must have had a Hebrew Name!

Well, He does have a Hebrew Name: Yeshua. It is the same Name the 144,000 will have written on their foreheads, as related by the Apostle John in Revelation 14:1, "Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him 144,000 who had His name and His Father’s name written on their foreheads." (NIV) The Name Yeshua is actually the same Name as Jehovah with the Hebrew letter shin (ש) in the middle of it. While most translations of the New Testament into Hebrew will render this name ישוע, (which is a safe and phonetically identical rendering--"safe" much like "Adonai" is a safe rendering for Jehovah if you're Jewish,) the context of the proper spelling holds the literal key to what John said, "The Word was God." And yes, the meaning of that Name is literally "Jehovah Saves." The words of Jesus in John's gospel again assert the Truth, "I and the Father are One."

Be careful of what most of those who proclaim that Name are teaching. They aren't the 144,000 ... I have begun to wonder if they won't turn out to be just as crooked in the end as those who have proclaimed the name Jehovah in the past ... There is nothing new coming from Yeshua. Nothing new really under the sun. He is Jesus Christ. And He, like His Father, does not change, is eternal and was here from the beginning. Only what is written in the Bible is the literal Truth concerning Theology and Yeshua, Jesus Christ the Word.

Now, on the subject of politics ... well, let's just pray for Dr. Paul and his mournfully tiny group of like-minded politicians we have in Congress. May we all keep fighting the good fight.

Thanks again for this post!

Love in Jesus,
C.R.C.

Tom-M, re "Massiah".

thank you for your attention and response. You refer to the "meaning", I agree, no argument there. Maseeh is a title-word and it can be translated. I wish and desire for the original in this important matter, because a transliteration settles the important issue in his life-time, i.e. was he the Maseeh?
So, if you accept him as one, and you evidently do, then it is better & beneficial if you refer to him with his original title, i.e. Maseeh/Messiah/Massiah,-(single 's' is closure to the original, aramaic), a reference without dif'ference. Hope this clarifies my view/intent.

Your article is very enlightening, it reminds/revives the noble teachings, respecting liberty, specially ="no coercion".

Now, a request, subject to two ifs: if you understand, agree/accept, then the second if - is it possible to edit/revise the title of your article accordingly. ? ?

I think you are right.

MaShYCh, Mashiyach, and Messiah are Hebrew and mean anointed, as does Christos.

But remember, there were others in Greek culture known as "Christos," so the word requires some explanation.

.

Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Yes, but ...

Jesus did not come out of Greek culture. The Hebrew prophets Isaiah, Daniel and many others (mostly the psalmists) were the ones who foretold His coming, and no one had ever been called המשיח--the Hebrew word for "Christos", Messiah--in Hebrew culture before. Jesus was, is and always will be the unique holder of that title.

I think the term was also used

for priests and kings.

http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_4899.htm

.

Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

A couple things

"...Jesus makes it clear in this passage that it is not for men to enforce the laws of God. With the exception of cases in which one human being has done injury to another, the right to punish human behavior is reserved for God."

Yah has before used men to punish men. I am thinking of Numbers 15:32-36 where the people were directly told to stone a man who broke the Sabbath.

And in Leviticus 24:10-16 they were directly told to stone a man who blasphemed the Name.

In both of these cases they put the person "in ward" and brought them to Moses.

Moses did take it to the Boss, though, so I guess you can't really call it vigilante justice...

But the precedent is clear.

"and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name"

Edit: "Jesus Christ" was a Hebrew Israelite from the family of Judah(Yahudah), one of the 12 sons of Jacob. He had a Hebrew name. That name has been put through the meat grinder of transliteration for a couple thousand years.

His name is more like Yahusha the Messiah. YaHU-ShA = YaHUaH is deliverance(salvation)

More here: http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/transliteration_copy%281%29...

.

Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Great article...

...but John 8:3-11 is a spurious scripture. It is not found in the earliest manuscripts. It was added later by a Libertarian.:D

Jesus condemned only two groups of people: the religious leaders and the rich. So, isn't it ironic that we see today so many Christian leaders who are rich?

Jesus was also an efficient Libertarian. What welfare state could feed 5,000 hungry people to satisfaction with only 2 fishes and five loaves of bread?

"I support the Declaration of Independence and I interpret the Constitution."

with all respect

Know ye not that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?

There is also much evidence to support the validity of John 8:3-11. "History Channel Doctrine" has spoiled the Church Body today ... Just because you hear it doesn't mean it's Truth.

I had heard this same thing several years ago. Yes, this does little to alter the fundamental foundation of the New Testament, but it does tend to break down the reliability of the Bible. I think that might be the only reason it was brought to light.

But, what if it is really an addition? How can I be so sure?

My roommate today is a pastor and a Bible and prophecy scholar of over twenty years. He acquainted me with many writings from early Christian authors, many of whom support the existence of this text before others claim it was written. Two of these that I can attest to personally are Papias and Didymus, who both wrote not long after John was exiled.

But in the end, what you believe is up to you.

Love in Jesus,
C.R.C.

pretty good article. i

pretty good article. i actually hold the position that, taken to its logical conclusion, you can't be a libertarian without being a theist. you have to believe in God or at least one deity in order to establish that individual sovereignty is objectively morally good. if you take God out, youre left with relativism, in which case you have no grounds on which to argue against the government intruding on liberty outside of legal ones (i.e. you cant refer to the objective and binding reality that individuals have rights as a result of their humanity from God)

for those fellow libertarians who arent theist, i appreciate your recognition on how the world is structured and, we'll say, "designed," that is, with natural rights at the forefront. i would simply challenge you to try and answer the question of "what makes individual sovereignty objectively morally good?"

tasmlab's picture

Lady from the 1900s

There was a libertarian-leaning philosopher from the mid-1900s named Ayn Rand who very much believed that the libertarian perspective was not only compatible with atheism, but in fact, required it. She has thousands of pages on the subject and I would highly recommend diving in.

Prior to the 2008 Ron Paul revolution, back when I was the only libertarian I knew, I figured all libertarians came from the Ayn Rand/Reason Magazine circle and were largely atheist. I was/am surprised with the number of Christians in the movement.

Also, many of the founding fathers, who I would describe as libertarian, were largely deists, not theists.

I'm trying to be polite/respectful, but I think your premise is likely wholesale wrong.

Currently consuming: Harry Browne, Free Domain Radio; JT Gatto and Holt; Wii U

There Was No Jesus

Read Joseph Atwill's Classic on this subject,"Caesar's Messiah--The Roman Invention of Jesus." Reading this book will require an open mind on the subject. Atwill also has a website called Caesar's Messiah. He is doing a documentary film on the subject. It was the greates fraud ever committed, making Madoff's fraud in comparison insignificant.

And...

I suppose that Doc Brown traveled back in time in his Dalorean to implant this recently discovered document in Jordan 2000 years ago, just to prove you wrong:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110330/ts_yblog_t...

Not to mention his authorship on the Dead Sea scrolls, his authorship of many other non-cannon text under different pseudonyms referring to Jesus that are dated before Constantine, and his participation in starting what has been one of the biggest religious movements in human history...

Sorry, but Christopher Lloyd is a good actor and nothing more! Jesus is real; He is a Living Savior and King. He died for you, Sheldon. I would not be worthy of my own life if I didn't tell you this.

Jesus was a Master Teacher.

Jesus' private Gnostic teachings were "outlawed" with the Roman Emperor Constantine's decision to make Christianity the state religion. Along with that decision came his command that all Christian bishops choose between Jesus' public/Orthodox and private/Gnostic teachings. In this way Constantine could unite the empire under one official church doctrine. His command was carried out at the Council of Nicaea (325 AD) in the document Christians call the Nicene Creed and its shorter version, the Apostles' Creed. In effect, the Nicene Creed, which reflects Jesus' public teachings, became the one official doctrine of Orthodox Christianity, and in turn, made his private Gnostic teachings an outlawed heresy.
Soon after the Council, "an imperial edict ordered that all books by Arius [the principal advocate of Jesus' Gnostic teachings at Nicaea], and others like him, should be burned, and made concealment of such a book punishable by death." Bishop Eusebius (260-340), Constantine's court historian, restructured all Biblical literature to coincide with the council's decision.
Now, like then, most theologians, intellectuals, and academics, are so convinced of their own beliefs that they can not grasp Jesus' teachings.
When asked why he taught in parables, Jesus said, "The reason I talk to them in parables is that they look without seeing and listen without hearing or understanding," (Matt 13:13) "Those who saw so dimly could only be further blinded by the light of full revelation, (Mk 1:34+). Jesus, therefore, does not reveal with complete clarity the true nature of the Messianic kingdom which is unostentatious [natural]. Instead he filters the light [or ideas he presents] through symbols, the resulting half-light is nevertheless a grace from God, an invitation to ask for something better, and accept something greater." (Note C 13:13 jbv)
http://www.darnellworks.com/gnostic/frameset_CH4.htm

-
"Stand up for what you believe in. Even if you stand alone."
~ Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."
~ Ron Paul
"You must be the change you want to see in the world."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

Are you saying that a person

Are you saying that a person is not able to distinguish harm from non-harm without a theology?

thank you for this.

made my day better. excellent insight.

-------------------------------------------------------
Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

------------

Wow... thank you for this.

Wow... thank you for this. Great post!

Isaiah 61:1 (Amplified Bible)

Isaiah 61:1 (Amplified Bible)

 1THE SPIRIT of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed and qualified me to preach the Gospel of good tidings to the meek, the poor, and afflicted; He has sent me to bind up and heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the [physical and spiritual] captives and the opening of the prison and of the eyes to those who are bound,

Oh I am so glad I finally got to this!

What an incredible post. Couldn't agree more. THANKS

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

Love this post.

Libertarian indeed!

I'm going to buy your book.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I will too!

When I can.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Tom Mullen's picture

The PDF version is only $5.00

and I actually make a couple dollars more when you buy the PDF version for $5.00 than when you order the paperback through Amazon. :)

You can get the PDF here: http://www.lulu.com/commerce/index.php?fBuyProduct=4256857

Another excellent

commentary by Tom Mullen.

The best

ever!

-
"Stand up for what you believe in. Even if you stand alone."
~ Sophie Magdalena Scholl
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."
~ Ron Paul
"You must be the change you want to see in the world."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

Hate to burst your bubble but

this passage was not in the original. Very little of the Bible is suspect but this passage is most certainly not in the original text.

Which one?

And expound man, expound.

John 7:53-8:11

He is talking about John 7:53-8:11. Many biblical scholars say that this passage was not in the original, but added later. Read the arguments for and against:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_and_the_woman_taken_in_ad...

Ayn Rand on Jesus & Individualism

The following excerpt is from a letter to Sylvia Austin dated July 9, 1946, in Letters of Ayn Rand, p. 287:

"There is a great, basic contradiction in the teachings of Jesus. Jesus was one of the first great teachers to proclaim the basic principle of individualism -- the inviolate sanctity of man's soul, and the salvation of one's soul as one's first concern and highest goal; this means -- one's ego and the integrity of one's ego.

But when it came to the next question, a code of ethics to observe for the salvation of one's soul -- (this means: what must one do in actual practice in order to save one's soul?) -- Jesus (or perhaps His interpreters) gave men a code of altruism, that is, a code which told them that in order to save one's soul, one must love or help or live for others. This means, the subordination of one's soul (or ego) to the wishes, desires or needs of others, which means the subordination of one's soul to the souls of others.

This is a contradiction that cannot be resolved. This is why men have never succeeded in applying Christianity in practice, while they have preached it in theory for two thousand years. The reason of their failure was not men's natural depravity or hypocrisy, which is the superficial (and vicious) explanation usually given. The reason is that a contradiction cannot be made to work. That is why the history of Christianity has been a continuous civil war -- both literally (between sects and nations), and spiritually (within each man's soul)."

http://www.noblesoul.com/orc/texts/jesus.html

Ayn Rand's writing...

is 50% genius and 50% drivel.... maybe I'm being too generous it could be more like 33% 67%.

Though it could be worse... she could be in the 2% 98% category like the bible.

Duality's demise

Jesus taught that denial of self in honoring your fellow man is the highest calling. This is a reoccuring statement throughout many systems of theology. The meaning to me is coming to truth through you own will, and then surrendering that will for truth. Human reasoning and descrimination are absolutly essential to understand the principals of virtue, but the final step requires an abandonment of doubt and sublimation of reason.
After all if it were easy to understand and practice everybody would do it.

I have always thought the actions of men the best interpreters of their thoughts.
John Locke

Ayn Rand must not have understood the essential

essence of Christianity which is salvation by grace. It is not by following a code of ethics but by accepting the sacrifice of the Lamb of God (Jesus) that results in payment for our sins. This results in serving God out of love and not fear. If she had understood this, she would have realized the teachings of Christ fit very well with her philosophy.

...

As I'm fond of saying, did people automatically go to Hell before Jesus existed?

I believe Jesus was a great philosopher, and perhaps a prophet via Kabbalah, but your argument has no logical validity to it.

Just believe? Not that compelling. I don't (along with Jews) consider God to be anthropomorphic.

Jesus had existed before he

Jesus had existed before he came to earth in a physical body. Jesus himself is the creator. Jesus himself is God. Those who died before Jesus came to earth as a man lived by the law and were judged by the law.. Those after have lived by grace.

Psssst, Sierra,

check out Hebrews chapter 11. By faith, by faith, by faith......Men have always been accepted by God, or not, by faith.

No, not at all. There were always those who believed .....

in the Promised Messiah, even as far back as Adam. Eve, Abel and Seth, who gave evidence to that belief by their actions.

So no one automatically goes to Hell.

As to the unasked question of who Y'shua (Jesus) was or was not, He, Himself made plenty of references to both His place of origin and who His Father really was.

The disciples had no logical reason to perpetuate lies ( He rose from the dead, He was the Son of God) that would endanger both their place with in the synagogue and their very lives. So you are left with Josh McDowell's trilemma:

Giving the disciples the benefit of the doubt (for the reason stated above) in their ability to tell the truth,
Y'shua (Jesus) was one of three things:
A liar (potentially a demon), A lunatic (completely insane) or God Incarnate. Since we affirm that the disciples did not lie about Him, and since they record His claims to deity in many places, this is what we are left with. DYOC as to the logical conclusion.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Tom, Great piece!

I would just like to point out that He did say, " Go ahead and execute justice." He also said, "He who is without sin may cast the first stone." In this case, just by bringing the woman alone, without her paramour, they were breaking a Torah command. It is my suspicion that the law requiring both parties involved being brought out was what He was 'writing in the sand'.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15