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Daily Paul personality profiles?

Okay, I thinK it'd be cool if we found out what kind of personalities we've got here. I'm an INFJ/INTJ and I'm curious how many of us are INFJ because it's so rare. They say INFJ's make up 1-2% of the population. I'm also gay which means I'm a unicorn. Anyway, I'd like everyone to take the personality test and list their numbers and personality type. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm

Understanding this kind of think has helped me to understand why I think the way I do. I recommend everyone take the test, especially young peoples. Either way it does help identify what you might be best at doing for the cause. For instance, as an INFJ, I'd be better off being the COUNSELOR of a political candidate, rather the candidate as I'm not an E. I hate dealing large groups of people. These tests seem legit to me as everyone I've tried this with it has pegged.

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes1.htm

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:) SEE! About limited use ...

... "suggested careers" ROFL. ADAPT, ADAPT, ADAPT. Psychology is all about fitting into the system with an ever dwindling, dumbing-numbing-down norm.

What about the career one wants? And why does he want it? Becuase he wants it -- no more than that. Austrian economics latched onto this quite correctly in one of their primary axioms that says that economics, to work, should take into account personal choices (this woudl be true even if they were a crazy as all hell -- but that is another field entirely).

In psychology, there are as many "axioms" or sets of them as there are psychologists. No agreement, no provable, invariable techiques with measurable results, no science, very littel correlation.

The "personality types" do not lead to an understanding of relative survival potential and the related willingness to strive for survival of symbiotes so would be of little use in "persuading" neocons or anyone else.

The key to why libertarians are such is a totally different ball game.

I agree. Using this as a career placement tool is foolish.

It's just one aspect of the human creature.

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When I was younger I tested

When I was younger I tested INTP. Now I test fairly consistently as INFP, but T and F percentages are nearly 50/50.

I think the Myers-Briggs test gives some interesting ways to analyze personality, but I would take the type descriptions with a huge grain of salt. Some folks on the MBTI blogs believe their type to be a form of destiny, or use their type as justification for all kinds of irresponsible and inconsiderate behavior. Personal responsibility, anyone?

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

INFP also!

INFP~ I would say that this is pretty accurate!
http://typelogic.com/infp.html

Some famous INFP's
Homer, Virgil, Mary, mother of Jesus, St. John,St. Luke, William Shakespeare, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, A. A. Milne, Laura Ingalls Wilder,
Helen Keller

Temperment: Idealist-Healer
A fairly close description.
http://keirsey.com/4temps/healer.asp

In company of George Orwell, Aldous Huxley and amica jeffersoni! ;-)

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Princess Diana and Mother Theresa also...

Now you see why I take my INFP identification with a grain of salt. A saint and a princess?! Please.

Liberty Belle, you are a gazillion times more extroverted than I. Are you sure you aren't ENFP?

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

I force myself

to be extroverted sometimes! It's all bravado dear..but those times when I do ..I amaze even myself and usually end up in some sort of trouble!
;-) Try it..(except for the trouble part!)

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

LOL Same temperament as Liberty_Belle. Go figure!

What motivates you, perhaps the need to be strong?

I am motivated by my need to observe. If I am strong about what I've found to be true, I have something to offer, homemade, so to speak.

Those that are motivated to be strong benefit others by being strongly compassionate.

We have a given talent; our motivation. How can it become a gift for others? By going upstream, against our mere nature if need be.

How we do this is tempered by our type. An Extrovert might post something compelling, but the introvert that was compelled may procrastinate (P type) in commenting.

Ah but Belle, it's you I like. Not your type or your motivation, those are just beside you...

Checklist- Green tea, dark chocolate, bright sunshine, I wonder if there's baggie of cure around. ;-)

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Paul~ A sweet fellow INFP!

I am not surprised at all! You are always very thoughtful, perceptive and exude compassionate feeling.

I am motivated by the need to be strong.. as I am a caregiver of many, many years. And yes, sometimes I am compelled to swim upstream or jump the fence ...much to bolster belief in my own strength as well as an example to others! I love beauty in people, art and nature but tend to be overly dreamy and curious. Oh! I love to make people laugh!

Yes, I have every single thing on the checklist! ;-)
You have me pegged pretty well! Thank you for your always kind words.

~Love and Peace

"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Mary, mother of Jesus?

How the F*** did someone come up with that????

Luke was a Greek doctor and a reporter

He had to check the "story" out for himself. There are often clues, especially if the reporting was accurate and especially if interviews were done.

But good storytelling has always implicitly recognized the different types.

Herrman Hesse wrote several stories then met Carl Jung. What had been implicit knowledge for Hesse, became explicit under Jung's tutelage.

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Interesting !!!

whois record leads to

netvision.net.il
registrar name: Israel Internet Association ISOC-IL
registrar info: www.isoc.org.il

INFJ

INFJ. Only 1% in Judgement. Last time I took Myers-Briggs I was INFP. I'm comfortable with both, but INFJ is a more accurate assessment at this point in my life.

*****The Federal Reserve is neither.*****

INTP

To some extent I am. Here is a good description; not totally true but close.

http://keirsey.com/4temps/architect.asp

malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

I am an aristocrat. I love liberty; I hate equality. - John Randolph of Roanoke

You sir, are a Master Mind. As am I! What the... Huh??

http://typelogic.com/intj.html

"Portrait of the INTJ: The Rational Mastermind"

I guess, according to this, I am too.

egads! Helicopter Ben AND Greenspan are one, too!

Does that make my futt bat?

http://keirsey.com/4temps/mastermind.asp
"Famous INTJs: Isaac Newton, Stephen Hawking, Ben Bernanke, Lise Meitner, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ulysses S. Grant, Ayn Rand, Allan Greenspan, Niels Bohr"

One military winner, and a loser in the same category?

Saving grace? Newton, Hawking, and Bohr!

Though, I found the survey's 'do you depend more on reason or feelings?'-type questions as being completely antithetical: what we call reason are a subjective conclusion that is achieved via a person's collective knowledge of their past and present experience and decisions made under varying emotional state, to facts surrounding those decisions.

For instance, a skilled Formula One racecar driver develops a "rational," calculated, corporeal, mechanically inclined skills, based on his own personal understanding of basic physics, as well as and peculiarities of his vehicle. After a while, he learns to intuit what his particular version of his stable of racecars would do in a certain corner, certain gear, etc.

Ask any racecar driver, or a MotoGP rider, or a pilot for that matter. They're more than likely to say I "feel" my ride, F1, MotoGP, or F18, etc.

To put it another way, an Ayrton Senna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayrton_Senna) at age 16 maybe "reasonable" but at age 30, he's all "feeling."

Even a person in marketing/sales knows this all too well, if he/she attended one too many seminars too embarrassing to admit: 'Cognitive Competence' vs. 'InCognitive Competence.'

Put another way, it's 'I gotta think about it' vs. Second-nature.

Thus, what if someone's "reason" becomes synonymous as a "feeling?"

It's a moot psychiatric distinction, based on fallacious understanding of the most basic observation of the human mind, and behavior.

The same goes for questions regarding acknowledging empathy, extending empathy vs. calculated 'cold' actions, etc. the two category are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

For instance, as anyone who's ever lived in NYC could attest to, I "feel empathy" towards every homeless man/woman I've ever walked by in the City.

Yet, do I 'donate' a quarter to every single pandhandler?

Nope.

Can I feel sympathy for the man's disposition, yet not condone it?

Sure.

Does it make me a bad person?

Nope.

Do I feel guilty?

Nope.

Can I, or am I rationalizing it?

Of course, I can, or may. lol.

But the real question is if I were to do so, would I be making a consciously objective, or a subconsciously subjective choice?

Now, let that percolate in your noggins.)

Newton? You writing style & content defies gravity.

Issac & Fig are both excellent.

'Cognitive incompetence' vs. 'Incognitive competence,' or points beyond...

I doubt there is an "equal & opposite reaction to anything you write." I very much enjoy your messages that pass by my desk. I hope the positive reaction far out performs any perceived negative.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

A rational mastermind at work. A wondrous thing.

Your Prometheus to my Apollo. Keep on keeping on!

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enfp and a 'champion' ...of my chicken farm

ha! that was fun. yay. and i'm straight so that must make me a T-Rex!!! aarragh! ...i gobble up your gay unicorn! ha ha ha! that was a nice respite from all the politics/survivalism. kinda paints more detail and scope into the picture. thanks

"ron paul is not running....ron paul is not running" -bloomberg 'expert' morning after the bloodbath, i mean, debate!

Hi!

I'm an INTJ as well.

betty

INTP

If you re-arrange the letters it spells PINT lol

cheers,

donvino

JINF!

name for a new Japanese Sake, perhaps?

Did you read this?

Did you read this? http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html

And I'm curious if you feel like it described you accurately. Thanks.

Not totally...

Although, most of the characteristics are very close indeed...

especially on the detailed list on the following link..

INTPs generally have the following traits:

Love theory and abstract ideas
Truth Seekers - they want to understand things by analyzing underlying principles and structures
Value knowledge and competence above all else
Have very high standards for performance, which they apply to themselves
Independent and original, possibly eccentric
Work best alone, and value autonomy
Have no desire to lead or follow
Dislike mundane detail
Not particularly interested in the practical application of their work
Creative and insightful
Future-oriented
Usually brilliant and ingenius
Trust their own insights and opinions above others
Live primarily inside their own minds, and may appear to be detached and uninvolved with other people

donvino

How can you be both?

What does the T stand for?

Meet a fellow INFJ BTW

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

I AM BOTH BECAUSE,

I've taken the test 4 times and did once come up with thinking instead of feeling. It's that libertarian influence. lol

I think there is confusion between temperament and motivation

Motivations are a complex subject. One way to looks at motivations is thinking, feeling and acting. I am motivated towards thinking, though my temperament is towards feeling.

>More on motivations (Enneagram -chart of nine)

Hurley and Donson
http://www.hurleydonson.com/nine_types.htm

Fr. Richard Rohr
http://www.amazon.com/Enneagram-Christian-Perspective-Richar...

We have our natural motivations, our survival-mode motivations and our selfless motivations.

I am motivated to observe. Stress drives me to fantasyland. I find fulfillment in taking a stand and sharing what I think I know.

For me this explains Nietzsche. Thus spake Zarathustra was his fantasy land. His "Will to power" was his search for a way to take a stand.

He ends up being a motivational figure for Observer types. Not so much for the other 8 types as they are otherwise motivated.

BTW Great topic. Thanks.

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Introvert -

Introvert - Extrovert
iNtuitive - empiriciSt
Thinking - Feeling
Judging - OPtions

The last pair I call Deadliner and Meantimer. For the first group dead describes what happens if they miss a deadline.

In the meantime there are options to consider.

The side effect is that meantimers can drive deadliners crazy. I told my wife its not a long ride for some. Well, I thought it was funny, in the end we're all dead.

I wonder if there is a glitch in the J/P axis. Anyone else get a result they were not expecting?

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You drove up a good, important question...

Actually though I'd say a lot more people are awake than you thought.

A number of my friends who, are definitely smart, also happen to be extrovert computer experts and they agree with basically everything Ron Paul says.

Except the part about, going back to strictly gold that is......I also tend to believe that is off the wall thinking. Not because he is wrong, but because the Gold standard was just as bad as paper standard.

Competition in currency....Now there's something virtually everyone will have to agree on!

Dr. Paul's gold stance seems intuitive to them, I would guess

If they are empiricists then this seems ethereal.

I often call empiricists Missourians, The "Show Me State."

A paper standard and a gold standard for paper both fail because they are a national currency without significant competition.

Gold and Silver have never failed as money, as such. Diluting coins with cheap metals or creating banknotes unbacked by gold or silver is called debauching. The gold or silver doesn't fail but men cheat.

The empirical fact is that gold and silver have been used as money for several thousand years. Gold and silver have been a money standard for a long time.

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Making Gold standard, is well, a bit of a double-edged sword...

We'd have to mine it enough all over the world to meet the standards, thus cutting off the communist mines.

We would have to make it illegal for corporations to get involved in industrial mining contract disputes, and tariffs, thus eliminating any further hold for the Rothschilds to have monopolies.

Likewise, we'd have to pretty much change the entire law so Gold could be mined in every country around the world and things of that nature...there's not enough Gold for 300-500 million people anymore.

So, there's no way you would want a FAKE gold certificate or false-secure gold standard.

I bet that was the banker's end game was to sell the big three-face lie of a gold standard for all.

Legalizing all currencies on the other hand, now you're talking....there's more than enough silver for every person on earth...and plenty of gold & platinum in all the other caves..

I prefer competing currencies myself, but there is plenty

of gold.

Prices would simply be re-denominated.

For example, we still use the term "dollar" when we really mean FRN. We haven't used Dollars since 1965 at least in fractional terms, and we haven't used actual whole Dollars since 1963. (the unit FRN began that year, prior, the smallest FRN was a Five)

Yet even then, we were mostly using FRNs and yet prices remained in "dollars."

Truly, there was no inflation in dollars from 1913 to today, but rather a real deflation. What has inflated, and thus caused debt denominated in dollars (but really in FRNs) to inflate so much was the FRN being used as if they were dollars.

I know it seems confusing, but think of it this way. Right now we are using FRN 'dollars' and if we returned even only to gold, we'd be using "old dollars" and thus prices would adjust downward as the old gold dollar was 1/35 of an ounce. Clearly, you can buy much more than ONE FRN with 1/35 of an ounce of gold (slightly under one gram) because at today's spot 1/35 of an ounce will sell for ≈ 40 FRNs.

Prices were cheap in the old days not because it was inexpensive to make and market stuff, but because we were using a different monetary system. In reality, were we to revert to the dollar, prices would be cheaper today for many products than in 1913 because of mass production and advances in technology.