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No More Alcohol In My Life!

After many days of looking in depth at my life my lifestyle choices I decided to abandon my drinking ways.

No more organic beer or for that matter any kind of alcohol intake for me.

Thank you Michael Nystrom my wonderful friend for being instrumental in this choice this path I am taking.

I want the whole patriot community on Daily Paul to know how much I love you all.

Each and every one of you.

Keep me in your prayers I need your support and I need to face you every day being sober and strong...

I do not want to be depressed and lethargic because alcohol is flowing in my veins and affects my heart beat and my activism in our sacred struggle for Liberty.

Here I say it out loud -- hope some of you with a similar addiction/s join me.

Love Liberty Peace!

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Best of luck - It 'aint easy!

I'm no alcoholic, but I sure use it a a crutch sometimes.

I have quit drinking anything for months at a time before (I'm an all or nothing type of personality), but always manage to end up drinking again - socially at least.

It's tough doings after a round of golf to not drink a couple of brews with your buddies.

Very tough indeed.

Best wishes to you Liberty. Let us know how it goes.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Why are all of these ancient threads being bumped?

And LL didn't follow through with this as was plainly evident in the run-up to the election. I do hope he would try again.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

You really are taking a stand

I am assuming this is your first go round with "quitting" since this is obviously your first week, maybe first month, doubt it, but anyways, your friend is leading you down a bad path, hate to break it to you. What you are doing is building a wall, you are dividing yourself into two people, the conscious side who likes to chill out and have a few beers, and the business side who wants to do everything you can do maximize the potential of your life, you need to learn how to be a man and not let drinking rule you, just prioritize your life. If you want a beer drink one, but if you have shit to do don't drink it, your putting yourself through a lot more trouble just because you make excuses about wanting to drink more, as a smoker I understand this, but I wouldn't smoke a pack before I ran a mile, just doesn't make sense.

You just got PAULED!

that is good advice. well said!

there is a time and a place for everything, and everything in it's place and time.
balance and moderation is the key, find it, live it!


don't miss it...nor the poverty and trouble one little bit.

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

well...hope it will last more

well...hope it will last more the 3 weeks or 6 months. Stay strong, keep your mind clear of every substance impairing your judgment.


drinking to get high is a problem. Making ones own beer is like making your own bread. You don’t necessarily eat the whole loaf in one sitting. For me I savor the taste and the satisfaction of making my own. I ration it through the week, so I have it to drink with my homemade chili or steak and ale soup (made with my fermentation). It is hard to make enough beer to drink to get drunk every other night. Once you savoir the fruits of your own labor … you put a higher value on what you make; and you are more likely to conserve and share. There is some effort to making your own … I can’t imagine wasting it on a one night binge … for me it is more valuable to use just as an appropriate refreshment with food and friends.

Please enjoy, "RON PAUL And All That Jazz"
Central Pa, Lycoming County, Williamsport


Keep it going.

good for you double-L

I began drinking alcohol around age 16. When I turned 21 I quit. I think its kinda poetic (something you'd appreciate) that I quit on the day that the gunverment decided I was old enough to make the decision for myself. Of the drugs I have experimented with, I find that alcohol is by far the worst "high". For me, drunkenness seems to be quite equivalent to a bad psilosybin mushroom trip.


congratulations …. I hope all is going well. Back in 2008 when I discovered Dr. Paul and then of course the Austrian school and Lew Rockwell. I decided to become more self-sufficient. I got out of the market - I bought gold and silver and started to make my own beer, wine, etc. (I say etc because it is illegal to distill your own spirits for your own use without a license from the feds). Since then I made a promise to myself that I would only drink what I make. And a lot of what I make, I share on liberty discussion nights with friends. It has worked for me. If you find yourself failing like some do, especially when a God given plant is illegal (I pray for you that you don’t fail) … maybe consider another hobby. Many of our founding fathers made their own.

Please enjoy, "RON PAUL And All That Jazz"
Central Pa, Lycoming County, Williamsport


It is a hard choice to make, but I think you will benefit significantly once you get past the first few weeks. I've had dependency issues with booze and pot on and off for the last few years, but I finally realized that alcohol was beginning to effect my health in some serious ways. In my experience, exercising (weight training or running in my case) was THE BEST substitute for drinking/smoking. The exercise gives you a buzz, and afterwards you are much more relaxed and stress is reduced noticeably. You should give it a try!

"The sinews of war are infinite money" ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero

Anyone who wants to quit smoking and drinking

Just get pregnant. You'll want neither in about 5 minutes.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut


I'm in my late 50's. Any workable advice for me?
Or for the fellas, any age? LOL

O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond

Yeah. I'm in my 50's too...

It's too late to teach this old dog new tricks.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

I wish I thought of that

I have been trying for a long time and it just hasn't happened yet?it worked for my wife though.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

blessings, LL

look! theres hundreds, online, standing right beside you! I also suggest marijuana for any side-effects. Taking the largest toke possible, and holding it in for as long as possible; if you can, allow the lungs to absord all of the smoke. Or, just eat some hemp. Let me know your status, brother. E-mail me anytime. I love ya; best hopes!

"ron paul is not running....ron paul is not running" -bloomberg 'expert' morning after the bloodbath, i mean, debate!


I am not drinking tonight and feel pretty good. I know in the morning I will be happy with my decision as well.

It was tempting to stop at the liquor store on the way home from work but I resisted the temptation pretty easily. There is a Lindy Hop dance thing going on at a local spot downtown but I am skippin out just because I know if I go then I will order a drink.

I have noticed that if I drink a lot of ice water that helps me avoid drinking anything else. Gonna drink some cleansing tea, watch RP on Stephen Corbet then gonna fall asleep. Keeping things easy cheesy..

Me too!

I have been alcohol free for seven days now, the tough part is over. I think I had withdrawals in the form of a four day long headache, combined with painful gastro-intestinal problems.

I quit had quit for a year starting on February 14, 2009, but I drank a beer one year later while celebrating Valentine's Day with my girl, and that kicked it all off again. I started out controlling it pretty well, but by the end of summer, I was drinking every day again, and had put back on most of the 40 lbs. I had lost the previous year.

I remember the withdrawal symptoms being more flu-like the first time I quit, but this time they were more mild; I think it's because I weened myself down to a 22 oz. beer every other day before I quit. Then and now, I have been smoking copious amounts of Cannabis, which seems to help too. LOL

I have also been keeping myself busy; I bought a new cookbook, "The Best Soups in the World," and have been researching the country Chile as a possible place to escape to.

Here's an interesting website I have been enjoying over the last week:

I particularly enjoy the writing of Dr. John Corbin, and expat living in Chile, working as an economics professor.

Anyway, I just wanted to write to tell you that a fellow DPer is going through roughly the same adventure as you right now, and decided to do so at roughly the same time. So feel free to email me if you need to communicate with someone who's on the same boat, in the same rough waters, as you are right now.

Seriously, don't hesitate to write.

I have some meditations

I have composed from Twelve Step understanding combined with what I have gleaned from my newly acquired Liberty understanding. Maybe you can find something there that would be of help... SemperLiberi.com

Peace & Blessings brother...

I'll pray for you, legalize.

I'll pray for you, legalize. It's tough overcoming any behavior that is destructive to the psyche, so my thoughts will be with you.

Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude"). Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 30 January 1787.

Best of luck Tom

You know you have everyone's best wishes for you. You're a stellar human, and deserve to give yourself the best health.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

Wish I could do it

I'm drinking now, like always. It's 6:00 pm now (I started at 5:00) and I've already had four beers. It's truly an addiction, but I've learned to live with it - and that's the scary part. Nothing helps either; it's just the best way to cope with everything that's spiraling downward in my life. And I know that it's slowly and surely wrecking it, but I don't have many other options. Oh well. Here's my hope and cheers to you on your endeavor. Best of luck, friend.

Try seltzer water

Suck back a seltzer between beers and you'll knock your consumption in half right away! Sending you waves of power and love. Take care of yourself, it's the only way you'll survive the spiral.

Colchester, New London County, Connecticut

Congrats!! Wish I could

Congrats!! Wish I could follow in your footsteps. Good Luck!

I hope you are serious this time.

I would ask you to refer to this comment from Doc Holladay which was very insightful.

The bottom line is that it all starts and ends with you. You have to change for you, and no one else. You have to WANT it for you.

Many of us here have fought similar demons, so we know all of the excuses, and sick reasoning that comes into play when justifying an addiction.

It is about personal responsibility, and being honest with yourself. If you can't be honest with yourself, then you can't be honest with anyone else.

Many people in the last thread (where you admitted your alcoholism), suggested that you go to alcoholics anonymous.
This program works for some people, and some people use other ways to beat their addiction.
One of the most beneficial parts of AA is the 12 step program. It helps you to understand the reasons why you drink, and and helps you take a "personal inventory", and get brutally honest with yourself.
It also has a step where you make peace with all of the people you may have harmed through your alcoholism, by either giving them a phone call or writing them a letter. That step in itself is a very healing act.
I think AA would be good for you, because you need personal interaction, and REAL hugs, not cyber hugs. You need REAL people who have been there and done that, that can look you in the eye, and tell you when you are being dishonest with yourself and others.
One of the toughest things to do is go into a room full of strangers, and admit that you are an alcoholic. The welcome you will receive will amaze you, because the people walking up and hugging you have been EXACTLY where you are, and realize how fragile your recovery is at this new stage.
You seem like a social creature, but I have noticed that you seem to think that you need alcohol to give you the courage to help you do certain things.
The problem with that is, that people do not take you seriously when you are drunk, so you are not doing the revolution any favors if you are trying to spread the message when you are drunk. It also tends to land you in the back of police cars, and institutions.

I found a link of many different places in Toronto, where you can attend meetings, and get some real support. You should not depend on WHG or MN to help you in this because they are not alcoholics. It is not fair to burden them with this either. You need the help of former alcoholics, to have any success.

Nothing is more important than getting yourself stronger for this fight we have ahead of us. NOTHING. Not your website, not the DP, nothing.
I hope that you take my, and other's advice and go and attend a few meetings, and give it a chance. Find yourself a sponsor, who knows what alcohol addiction is like, so that you can have someone to call on when things get tough.
I hope you get the help you need.
Here is the link.

Jefferson? I just knew you It was driving you crazy

I knew it was just driving you crazy to just post support for him below without laying into him right now.I was watching for it!What in your life caused you to be such an asshole?I knew you had to press something,Now at this time my friend who is pushing the buttons?

I don't care how much crap I get for this but I call foul my friend!I apologise Mr Nystrom but I am truly having a problem respecting a opportunist and bully.

Jefferson you have two faces,One kiss ass for the DP and the real one I have grown to know.I really feel sad that you cannot go through one day without finding someone to pick on.

O.K. give it to me my old friend with two faces.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I don't see anything wrong with what he posted

What he said there was brutally honest and needed to be said. Overcoming alcoholism requires serious personal commitment. All the support in the world can't help you if you yourself are not committed to overcoming addiction. I'm sure this is very clear to LL already so yes, it probably goes without saying, but it doesn't hurt to repeat wisdom.

As far as your accusation of Jefferson, perhaps you are projecting a bit. Perhaps it is you Atruepatriot who could not resist and were waiting for an opportunity to lay into jefferson for allegedly confirming your preconceived suspicions. I'm sure you know Jefferson better than I, but still, in this instance I see nothing foul about that post. It is serious, it is insightful and potentially helpful to all those who read it especially ll. IMO I don't believe the hostility you displayed here was necessary nor justified. I usually enjoy your posts Atrue so please don't think I'm attacking you, I just think your off base on this one and should probably apologize.

Having said that, I'd just like to say good luck LL and to all those fighting off demons in various forms. Our prayers and energy are with you.

Ether 12:27

With respect Poq,Here's the deal

There are people in this world that are predators and only sit and wait for the weakness of another to show it's self.At this time the predator takes advantage of the situation to kick the individual while they are down.

There is no compassion or understanding,There is no credit for well done deeds,There is only searching for the one fault that even slightly exposes a weakness.This is the time the predator decides to pounce and consume.

If we are to be a people of civility these type of actions should not be tolerated from any source.If I am not mistaken this is the thought behind everything we are doing here as humans with liberty humanitarian thoughts.

If this is allowed to happen we are no better than wild animals and it will be a non compassionate situation where only the strongest shall survive.Well I am putting in my fight for the bone.

What you do not see is the happenings behind this problem that I voiced my opinion about.It is long going and I for one am tired of the two faced hit and run while someone is momentarily weak.

I am a dirty street fighter and am very good at it, but I always give them a chance to get back up and never kick them while they are down.I have no respect for anyone that does not do the same.

Thank you,For you response,I now realise that poq and Jefferson may be one and the same?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

ok I understand

I just don't see the abuse here if there ever was any. That may just be my ignorance for which I figure I'll just stay out of it from now on.

BTW I'm not defending Jefferson so you know. He can do that himself if he feels the need. I just didn't see the "predator" taking advantage of the "prey" in this situation and thought you may have picked the wrong instance to vent your misgivings about someones character as Jefferson's post did not seem very two faced or mean spirited to me. Certainly not indicative of a pattern of abuse or deception that you seem to be driving at. Perhaps you grew tired of waiting for a clear cut example of his bullying and kicking someone while they're down and decided this post was close enough for you to let loose on him. You may even be right about him, I don't know, I have my doubts about it, but I just don't think this post makes your case very well. By all means stand up for what you feel is right, I'm sure you have your reasons. I'm just saying I don't see what's so terrible in this post.

As for Jefferson and I being the same person, lol. I thought I've been around long enough to not be confused for someone's sock puppet account, ha. I guess I'm still just another screen name in the crowd, lol. All well, that's fine. Good evening.


I apologise that I let loose,Please understand that this has been going on for a year including private email.

I will tell you one thing,If you trust him to take your back you can just go ahead out there about 2 hundred yards before I will even think about stepping out.

I would want Legal on my six before I would ever ask...No,I would never ask,Legal I can trust.

Some folks are about themselves,Some are about everyone.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.