Col. Sabrosky's Challenge to Local VFW Posts on 911 Justice
Submitted by James_Madison_Lives on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 18:40"The real 800 pound gorilla in the US lobbying system is the veterans groups...27 million people that's money AND votes...The great fear of AIPAC is that someone will tap into the veterans organizations, because this is the one lobby which can make them history." - Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies of US Army War College
The 911 Truth Movement in 2011 is ready to move forward in 2011. 3000 of our fellow Americans were murdered in cold blood, and we don't know by whom. We do know who didn't do it, at least not alone. As former German Defense Minister Andreas Von Bulow has written in his book "The CIA and September 11":
"Planning the attacks was a master deed, in technical and organizational terms. To hijack four big airliners within a few minutes and fly them into targets within a single hour and doing so on complicated flight routes! That is unthinkable, without backing from the secret apparatuses of state and industry." Tagesspiegel, 13. Jan. 2002
A Zogby poll as far back as 2006 shows that 42% of Americans think the 911 Commission was "cover up," and the truth movement has only spread since then, with a TV ad featuring 911 survivors pleading with the nation to give their relatives justice. We can stop arguing over whether the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) is plausible. It is not. The reams of inconsistencies, improbabilities, and impossibilities need not be gone over again here. Suffice it to say only that the official conspiracy theory is impossible according to the laws of physics, which show not enough fuel in the form of kerosene (jet fuel) and office furniture was present, burning under the right conditions, to sufficiently weaken the steel. The Building 7 story is even more impossible, if that can be.
This is not to denigrate the hundreds of other points which must be addressed, only to say that they are adequately treated in other places.
The problem is now political, as truth adherents probe the wall of silence and complicity among our high officials and prosecutors, who tremble at even allowing the words 911 Truth to slip from their lips lest it end careers, or in the case of the psychotics we have possibly uncovered, even more. Dr. Alan Sabrosky, for five years Director of Studies U.S. Army War College, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research, Vietnam veteran and 10-year US Marine, has suggested that the nation's salvation lies in the hands of its local veterans posts. Sabrosky has outlined as close as we have come to a roadmap to justice, and restoration of the Constitution and the Republic, and it is now time to change the name of the truth movement to 911 Justice.
Sabrosky says the local veterans posts have not been "bought-out," in contrast to our national leaders and institutions or even the national leadership of the VFW, American Legion, and other large veterans organizations. Sabrosky says these posts are not aware of their own power, and deploy usually only in support veterans benefits and issues. Were a single local veterans post to issue a call to its local, not national, media, for prosecutions for 911, the sea change would begin.
Before the investigation preceding a prosecution we do not know who may be guilty, we have only suspects. This is why prosecutors are empowered with subpoenas and budgets. To the ridiculous refrain we hear from OCT apologists, "where's the proof?" - this is obviously placing the cart before the horse. All that is required to initiate a prosecution is evidence of foul play and/or criminal conspiracy. To those who mock conspiracy theories: if there were none, then why is the charge on the books? Why have a law against something that never happens?
At this juncture in the movement for 911 truth, the evidence seems to be clearest against three men for imminent prosecutions, who are innocent until found guilty just as the Founders intended, as a starting point for unraveling the mystery. Because 911 harmed the entire nation like no other crime before it, any prosecutor in the nation can claim jurisdiction, under the "effects" doctrine, which is well-settled law. The point of course is to turn charges which can be easily proven into testimony which peels the curtain away from the enterprise, and enables further charges against further players.
Prosecuting Rudy "Ran Llike a Coward" Giuliani, (according to firefighters) for the felony crime of destruction of evidence has a special value to society in and of itself. In any crime of this magnitude it is imperative that all evidence be destroyed. It is perilous to openly destroy evidence, because all the world is a witness and it is clearly a crime. If there is no one willing to take the job of destroying the evidence in a future great crime, as a result of the historical example of Rudy Giuliani, our children will be safer from such plots in the future.
Control of a crime scene in common law belongs to the local jurisdiction in which the crime is committed. There is no confusion here. The local jurisdiction has primary responsibility for securing the crime scene, the evidence, and the chain of custody of that evidence from agency to agency. The NYPD or any other local force, in the discharge of this responsibility, can choose to prevent federal authorities or purported federal authorities from removing evidence at gunpoint.
Rudy not only destroyed evidence, he destroyed exhibit A, 95% of the WTC steel which would have revealed why the three towers fell. Under the contracting authority of the City of New York, Guliani hired Metal Management Northeast of Newark, N.J., Hugo Neu Schnitzer East of Jersey City and Blandford Land Development Corporation of Brooklyn. Weeks Marine Inc. created two steel offloading areas at Pier 25 and Pier 6 to accelerate the loading of the steel onto barges for transport outside US jurisdiction, to be immediately melted in China.
The reason is pretty clear. No guarantee of destruction of the steel could have been relied on anywhere in the US, as there was always danger of a patriotic agent or an office full of them, or sheriffs or police or a base commander, understanding what was happening and vowing to stop it, even if it meant a firefight. The memories of what happened to those people were fresh, and ordinary people could turn into heroes. No control of events had been established. This is a dangerous time for a conspiracy.
Then there is possibly the best reason to start with Rudy: one need not subscribe to belief in an inside job to believe that engineers and firefighters still deserved to know how to make buildings safer in the future, and why the buildings collapsed. The veterans' resolutions could be worded with a caveat for hold-outs, if necessary, that signing-on does not necessarily imply belief in an "inside job."
The next best candidate for prosecution is former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who could not be found anywhere by his staff between 9:05a.m. and 9:40, after all the major attacks were over. There is no record of him issuing any orders during this time. As second in command behind POTUS during a time of attack, it can be assumed he abandoned his post under fire.
The third candidate for prosecution, and the most intriguing, is Pentagon Comptroller Dov Zakheim who was in charge of Pentagon finances at the time $2.3 trillion was reported missing, on the day before 911. This simple violation of fiduciary responsibility could be the key to getting at the truth of many other circumstantial connections to Zakheim. We know that:
- Zaheim had motive to want dead the accountants and bookkeepers who might have shed light on where this money went.
- That these very auditors took a high casualty rate in a strenuous effort to hit just this part of the Pentagon
- That Zakhiem was CEO of the company which pioneered remote control technology, including that which enabled ground operatives to seize an airplane from hijackers, which obviously, in the wrong hands, can seize control from legit pilots and guide them with great precision to a target
- He had access to both the remote technology and to Boeings, as Comptroller of the Pentagon who had once sent 32 767s, (the same kind of planes which hit the towers) to be refitted in at McDill AFB in FLA.
- Zakheim had signed a document all but expressing a wish for a "new Pearl Harbor" to fulfill his foreign policy agenda. (Project for a New American Century also included Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, many others.)
This is one roadmap. But where will the political pressure come from? Sabrosky suggests that local veterans posts should adopt calls to their local prosecutors to initiate grand juries, and to report these through local television news stations, which are not as controlled as national media, and have their own constituencies to serve. Where all this could lead no one knows. Our nation is young, and we have never before confronted what amounts to a coup and a wholesale suspension of citizens' rights, to the point where the president claims the authority to have any citizen assassinated, or held in solitary confinement indefinitely, all the better for dealing with particularly effective opponents of the new Permanent War.
The chances are that once one vet post moves, others will follow. These are men and women who once swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution. A nation lifts its weary eyes to you.
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Alan Sabrosky (Ph.D., University of Michigan) is a writer and consultant specializing in national and international security affairs. In December 1988, he received the Superior Civilian Service Award after more than five years of service at the U.S. Army War College as Director of Studies, Strategic Studies Institute, and holder of the General of the Army Douglas MacArthur Chair of Research. He is listed in WHO'S WHO IN THE EAST (23rd ed.). A Marine Corps Vietnam veteran and a 1986 graduate of the U.S. Army War College, Dr. Sabrosky's teaching and research appointments have included the United States Military Academy, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), Middlebury College and Catholic University; while in government service, he held concurrent adjunct professorships at Georgetown University and the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS).
















add post in Somerville MA to those delivered to
now looking for a member, using Robert's Rules I would think any member can ask for an agenda item at next meeting.
"Give me liberty or give me death." - Patrick Henry
Delivering this artical
to our Post Commander today. Tks for the post.
No cigar
Not a word here on the media involvement in this operation. If you understand that this was a Hollywood production broadcasted on the News network, all this nonsense we hear all the time make sense - everything is faked except for some demolitions. And as usual for a Hollywood production, not even an animal was hurt in creating this movie.
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El Buggo and Madison Lives please guys show respect to each other and to the Daily Paul website it's community.
"And as usual for a Hollywood production, not even an animal was hurt in creating this movie"
El Buggo please refrain from offending people many of whom are just visitors here.
9/11 is not an issue about which you can make jokes on Daily Paul.
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Acknowledged, I was a bit heated, sorry
but to say that no one died makes us look like a bunch of nuts, which is the purpose.
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A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali
I knew someone who's brother in law was killed
FU, false flag disinformationist/plant to discredit Truth Movement. Let it be noted DP unanimously rejects this comment and will not tolerate disrespect to the 911 families.
They were not "animals", they were people, and they are dead. If you were here, I'd kick your ass.
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Thank you for responding
I understand you believe that someone's brother in law you knew was killed in this operation. What was his name? Is he listed in the Victim Compensation Fund? Is he listed in the Social Security Death Index? What Memorial Sites is he listed on? Can you tell us a little bit more? What car did he drive? Do you have another picture of him? I guess we can find the usual 2 pictures of him on Internet, but do you have another one? This would be most interesting.
Yes, there is a lot of disinfo in this topic. Therefore I prefer to work with fact based evidence that can be verified, and not anything faith based.
Oh yes, the the 911 Families, all respect to them. Here in picture 34 the crowd is assembled on the eighth anniversary. Quite telling picture and only two TV cameras.
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/09/remembering_septemb...
Yes, the 911 Families are almost as important as the Patriots who perish that day for maintaining the basis for the War on Terror. No victims - no War on Terror.
Silence?
I was looking forward to hearing the facts...
Come on James_Madison_Lives.
Also, El Buggo, what has been said about this:
September Clues - Busted!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8045542387672451515
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would someone like Adam Kokesh or his surrogate
ask for an agenda item at his local post? I can understand him wanting to work through back channels. Liberal Peter Thottam ran for a state seat in CA as an open 911 truthseeker. With CO Democratic party having an official platform plank calling for new investigation, it is entering the mainstream. At least 40% no longer believing OCT.
What about
http://www.militaryofficersfor911truth.org/
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This needs to be sent to others!
END the FED before it ENDS US
I will be stopping by my
I will be stopping by my local VFW post today, IN uniform, and present this to whomever is appropriate.
I hope to find a receptive audience, if not there are many, many VFW posts in my area that I will visit untill I can find traction.
“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato
Please ask for an email too so you can
forward this online version, or at least the links in it, so they can see the supporting material. The hard news sources nail it, on Flight Termination System, missing $2.3 trillion etc. I know many vets who are now for 911 truth, it is only a matter of time. I imagine there will be many nights of heated debate in some vet halls but open debate is what it is all about. The giant is awakening.
A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali
One more thing, my guess is Richard Gage or another
A&E911 or MilitaryOfficersFor911Truth.org member would be happy to present before a vet post and take Q&A. I would float the idea of making an invitation in case the membership is very divided and wants to hear from someone.
A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali
I like...
I like what I am reading here about the state of veterans groups in America. I wonder what else Sabrosky has wrote. Need a link to that quote pls.
Also, I think you have the right idea in using this information to our advantage, but I think 9/11 isn't the issue to do it with. Not with Veterans groups. Use a different issue, like exposing the FED, or some other threat to the Constitution, but keep it about the Constitution, and I think you have something.
I would say, encourage your veteran family members to get active with these groups and tell their fellow vets whats goin on, and who to vote for to stop it.
respectfully disagree, friend
The Fed is bad, but isn't responsible for the cold blooded, premeditated murder of 3000 of our countrymen, traceable to a few hands. This is personal.
All roads lead back to 911. When 911 falls it all falls.
A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali
True but, they are more linked than you may think.
Power elite linked to Fed. Military Industrial complex linked to Power elite. Go round in circles like a bird up in the sky. Without the Fed large scale warfare would not be possible. You could not put a war on a credit card and then "monetize" the bill. Anyhow you are Dead on correct about this being the real issue as a lot of the problem could be solved after it reaches the light of day. You da man !
Veterans have a special interest in the New Pearl Harbor
Counterfeiting, fiat currency, and fractional reserve banking - not so much. They don't know money well, but they do know war.
However, the discovery of the 9/11 fraud can lead them to investigating other frauds too, such as the Fed.
Speaking from experience.
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Good plan and summary! I would include Larry Silverstein.
In any crime you must investigate the property owner, especially when they take out a special insurance policy months before destruction.
Silverstein had at least a dual motive;
1) His buildings were full of asbestos and required costly renovation.
2) He gained billions of dollars from collecting twice on his newly inked insurance policy.
He essentially got his buildings demolished without having to pay for asbestos removal, and the money to rebuild all in one event.
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Trade Center Insurance
Also some key exclusions of the standard insurance policy were negociated out at the time the policy was written. As I understand it the buildings had a very high vacancy rate. The cost of the buildings did not make financial since due to the repairs needed and the rental cash flow. It was a very bad investment from a business point of view. The fire insurance rate per 1,000 was very low as sprinklered buildings of this construction, steel-masonry non-combustible, are never total losses due to fire. Here we have 3 complete totals from fire. The insurance industry is very silent publically, however the insurance loss controll engineers know this was arson but are afraid to come out due to fear of losing thier jobs.
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the ultimate "xxxxxx lightning"..
"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav
Building 7
is the key. If one was brought down by controlled demolition, they all were.
hence the quick removal of crime scene evidence.
hence the reverse psychology "don't believe outrageous conspiracy theories" by Bush
hence the Hauer explanation 30 minutes after that ended up being promoted by the msm as legit.
etc,etc
"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav
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F-Buzz?
I've run into that phony before.
...oh never mind, I see what you mean - sarcasm. Saw the posts below after posting.
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Excellent Post
Thx for posting. Unlike many Daily Paulers, I see 9/11 not only as the single largest game-changing event in U.S. history but also see if for what it is: A Mossad operation. I'm constantly amazed how few will read further into this and instead ask to debate something else. To me, it's cowardly. You can talk all day about Liberty but if you don't look the worst offender of it dead in the eye, all the other work is meaningless.
I will never understand the prevailing mentality, which is basically: "Discussing 9/11 is not going to further our cause". Really? So in other words, your neighbor has been banging your girlfriend behind your back for years but as long as you and your girlfriend have productive conversations outside of that, everything is fine......
Not trying to be mean-spirited about this. Just trying to get to the core of things.
Spot on
Nuclear kid! I agree with the girlfriend banging analogy of yours.
E Pluribus Unum
This is why I don't argue with....
....Anyone anymore, who doesn't plain and simple understand that Israel is behind the New World Order.
Yes, like it or hate it Israel and its Vatican enablers are behind the New World Order. Hell, they ARE the New World Order itself.
All the Globalist powers.....The Central Bankers who control Bilderberg...Are committed Xionists.
There is no such thing as a Right or a Left Xionist, since the ideology of Zionism is the same across the entire spectrum.
They are for a fully repressive government where the Kings rule the Serfs, ruled by Zionist anti religious Jews and Israeli Christian zealots.
Globalists, focused on complete Globalization and anyone who does not know that is living in their illusion.
It doesn't matter about Nibiru/Asteroid X or anything else.....to a Christian Xionist and Israeli, they don't even exist.
Jerusalem is the Capital of the world to a Xionist....Whether 100 die or 1000000...
This is why all Zionism is a sin against God ultimately......It is the height of Ethnic Cleansing.
The belief that only chosen Royal Blood Jews shall inherit the land of Jerusalem from dusk till dawn is an insane and bankrupt belief......
A belief that automatically excludes all other Jews and Palestinians from living on their own land. Or having a home, for that matter.
Whoever it was that made themselves ruler and declared only Royal Bloods shall live as Kings in the Middle East, would make Hitler positively proud. Royal Blood Jews & their christian followers?
Doesn't matter whether 100 died on 9-11 or 3000.
Its all Murder on behalf of the removal of Palestine.
Are they a race above all others now?!?? Is there no God now?
Is what they say, known as law now with no God to speak otherwise? That's the real test.