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Breaking: Congresswoman Shot in AZ

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Daily Caller Video | Rep. Gabrielle Giffords reads
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Police presence?

Why was there not even one police officer at the scene?
You would think that there would have been even one on site for such a high profile person.


secret service told to back down just before the shooting...what is next...is a Jack Ruby type going to shoot Jared or a mysterious suicide/death...

Nothing surprises me anymore...

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win!"

"The belief is worthless if the fear of social and physical punishment overrides the belief."


Shooter was stopped three hours prior to the event for running red light. Person who was described as unbalanced by everyday citizens is let go with a warning by trained professional.

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

A surprise to me too

There are even police officers at school plays and such now yet not one officer of any kind here? it is quite a shock, but shouldn't really be a necessary thing. I'm sure they will use this to say .."see even in a open carry state you need the govt to protect you" even tho they didn't do anything anyway

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

For what?

I appreciate that I do not need to travel with a security detail. Don't you?

Free includes debt-free!

1 of 2 Youtube channels Giffords subscribed to was shooters

This suggests more of a personal relationship than just a campaign aide. Giffords has hundreds of subscribers and probably dozens of aides, but it was only the shooter's channel that she subscribed to along with former Rep. Ike Skelton's.

It makes you wonder what their connection really was.


Nice catch by WND.

Shooter and Giffords Belong to same Synagogue


"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain


thanks celeste.

i noticed the first youtuber to notice gifford subscribed to his youtube channel, also makes the accusation that laughner's channel itself was not set up by him. The suggestion is that it was faked -- most notably because nobody ever signs up for a youtube account and gives their real name. people typically use aliases. Like "celeste." also, the account was fairly new and had a disproportionate number of videos, like he'd been a busy little bee.

so he signs up, meticulously edits his profile, produces a bunch of videos and uses his first and last and /middle/.

and that's the calling card for assassin shooters.

harvey lee oswald
john wilkes booth
mark david chapman
Jared Lee Loughners

it's a sigil. not by coincidence that they used his middle.

Even more interesting. Thanks!

And yes, we hear about "Christian militias," "Christian extremists," and "Muslim terrorists" from the media all the time, so why not "Jewish mass murderers" or "Jewish terrorists?

There's certainly some heavy bias in the corrupt media.

Just imagine if it had been a Muslim.

It is clear that

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More like the Zionist Media World Complex

....."Jewish" just doesn't describe it.

Seems died in the wool Zionists and Jerusalemites control the media business, the highest among them of course....anti-christ christians.

I believe

this is very, very true.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Plot thickens as always.

Well, Giffords sure wouldn't plot anything outrageous like that.

Maybe she was aware Loughner was disturbed, and legitimately believed he posed a threat to himself & was on too many drugs.

Perhaps he disagreed, and was more than happy with belonging to the "Kach" party...an ultra nationalist Zionist sect that follows the Kissinger New World Globalist order.

Admittedly I have no proof he was a member of Kach, but I found many news stories in various publications burying the same issues with other related victims of Kach nationalism. I put two and two together.

My suspicion, is that he did belong to Kach. Gabrielle who was heavily against anything to do with *that* agenda, probably tried to persuade & talk Jared out. They had to have known how dangerous those groups were, even his parents. He did not believe them, & it didn't take long for Loughner to crack and blame the Congresswoman.

Whoever it was dealing those psychotropic drugs shares as much blame for causing his situation, as any sort of shady figures do. Ultimately he was a unwitting pawn.

something tells me

we will never know -- coverup the name of the game.

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Interesting news


'Person of Interest' steps forward

It turns out the 'person of interest' was the cab driver that drove the shooter to the event.


"I think we are living in a world of lies: lies that don't even know they are lies, because they are the children and grandchildren of lies." ~ Chris Floyd

Strange. How close did he live to this shopping center?

I seem to remember reading it wasn't too far.

So a possible handler is still on the loose, without any authorities aware...

Cab Driver...

Was his name Travis, by any chance?



Someone standing up for Ron Paul shot down by Cooper

I want a verification on this...

bspe wrote:
Steve, you are way too obsessed with attacing Ron Paul. You accuse him of being a leftist and against the gun owners? Listen to yourself. You are also a master in confusing everybody. You obviously have no clue about banks (FED) being involved in destroying this country. Your ranting against Paul wanting to audit the FED is nauseating. I want you to give me a quote of either Paul or Alex Jones when they say, they are against the gun owners. If you want to have any credibility, you need to start backing up your rants, man. Your opinion is not enough. Thank you.

1. 01-09-2011 Steve Cooper wrote:
Gun removal will happen due to the violence committed by Ron Paul revolutionary loons. They do not have to say it...This shooter was a Ron Pauler...so choke on that. Ron Paul's anti-Israel comments mirror that of the radical left ...he is a trojan horse in the Republican party.

Anyone want to give people like Cooper something to choke on aside from his own NYC progressive conservative I hate the Constitution bile?!

For The Power of The Republic!

Don't even try to waste your time

He's in New York City. The guy is a inner city Big Liberal and he's never been out in Kansas before or anywhere like that.



"The entire ideology of Marxism is based on lies, deception, revolution and assassination. This alleged shooter's favorite book is The Communist Manifesto and once again I am not surprised by this. He also made comments about the economy and currency that parrot those made by radical Ron Paul Libertarians. The alleged shooter also mentioned "mind control" and this is a common phrase mentioned by 9/11 truthers and followers of Alex Jones and Ron Paul.

Democrat Linda Lopez blamed the Tea Party for the Arizona shooting and she also claimed that the alleged shooter was a Afghan war veteran. BOTH claims were false, but the media has not called on her to correct her statements that turned out to be false.

Revolution, violence, economic collapse is all needed by the left to throw this country into Martial Law. This is why many leftists like Ron Paul want to audit the Fed, because they know that the wealth is just an illusion at this point. Plus, these Leftists know that we are currently involved in a currency war with China and they would love to help them out by exposing our weakened financial system. They want to put the knife into capitalism once and for all."


For The Power of The Republic!

igorant question...

who is Cooper and why should I care what he says? He cannot possibly defend what he said ref Dr Paul... why give him attention?

Just wondering, like I said I don't even know who Cooper is.

....where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY. 2 Corinthians 3:17(b)

***wants are unlimited, means are scarce...***

I'll Clue You In: He Is Single Handedly The Most Despicable

walking talking piece of trash on FaceBook for one.


He has a website called The Conservative Monster that he shamelessly self promotes.

He regularly slanders Ron Paul in ways that would probably make Gandhi want to kick his ass if he were still alive.

He is an ex cop.

He loves war.

He has no brain and has bought the US Governments 911 terrorist scenario hook line and sinker.

He gets too much coverage as far as I'm concerned.
One of my biggest fantasy's would be being able work him over with a Louisville Slugger for 5 min then call an ambulance for him because I do know when to show mercy when it's appropriate... Got the picture?

I Like How The Guy Doesn't Understand What The Word Fantasy

means...no wonder his blog is going down the tubes. Well in his little world I guess I'm a "radical, left wing loon and dangerous revolutionary" ho hum...I'm telling you that guy is just dumb as rocks...

It's funny...

He reads the Daily Paul.

That Clown Doesn't Read The Daily Paul

I did an Alexa search on his site.
I did an Alexa search on the Daily Paul.

I went to facebook and taunted him with the stats unmercifully.
I am a prick sometimes. He deserved it. Steve and I go back quite a ways and I've went round and round with him back then.I don't think he's ever going to get it.

Sad thing is the guy was at ground zero and it looks like it might have got him as he's having problems with his lungs.
One would think someone that was there would scour the net to get to the bottom of things...Weird thing is he is all over the Obama BC/Eligibility issue...

So you told him about the comment here?

Or someone else did?

Got it... you paint a good picture

So he is a self promoting, arrogant cuss who has made the classic blunder of believing his own press releases.

I don't facebook... this is as socially networked as I get.

....where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is LIBERTY. 2 Corinthians 3:17(b)

***wants are unlimited, means are scarce...***