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What Did Our Fathers Go Through So That We Could be Free?

Hearing the news that NFL great Mark Stepnosky is matching donations for the Building What TV ad, (and I'm not kidding, as I glanced at the Facebook posts I thought, "why are they talking about Pat Tillman?" - in that small photo anyway a small similarity) I am drawn to thinking about sacrifice, since Mark has spoken up like a man where our pigeon-livered leaders fear to tread. Prof. Steven Jones, an early shock troop of 911 Truth, was hounded from his professorship at BYU, as have many other patriots been persecuted, derided, and threatened for speaking the dangerous truth. This is certainly a kind of sacrifice. But what does sacrifice for freedom really look like?

The landing craft at Normandy held up to 40 men, with backpacks and combat gear. As the beach approached, it was sometimes certain that within minutes, half the men on that craft would be dead, or worse. You looked at the man next to you, thinking shameful thoughts. Please, let it be him and not me. You threw up. You shook uncontrollably. And yet you had a job to do, and you were going to do it.

Some units took over 70% casualties. Hideous, appalling sacrifice. And yet there was no way around it. The Nazis were a cruel, genocidal regime and philosophy which had to be stopped.

Compare them to politicians and prosecutors who are afraid of being mocked or losing their jobs. At least they know that in five minutes, their guts will still be in their bellies.

On D-Day 10,000 men would be dead or wounded by the end of one day. They didn't do it so we could lose our freedoms like this.

After nearly ten years of debate and education, it seems lions among us like Stepnosky have reserved judgment long enough, listening to both sides, and are slowly making up their minds. Charlie Sheen, Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, the patriotic military officers at PatriotsQuestion911, history will record their names as among the first with much to lose to stand like free men and speak the truth.

Three minutes. You can hear German machine gun rounds pummeling the sides of your landing craft. Your leg is wet with your own urine. You are walking, almost literally, into a buzz-saw.

You wake up. You don't have to do this. In exchange, you have made a pact with the gods: all you have to do is work your heart out for 911 Truth for the rest of your days. That's it.

You cry for joy. That's it? That's it. Now go, begin.

VIDEO: Opening scene, Normandy landing from "Saving Private Ryan." June 6, 1944. NEVER FORGET

"Col. Sabrosky's Challenge to Local VFW Posts on 911 Truth"

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What did they go through?

Watch "Saving Private Ryan." Watch "Platoon". Then, remember these guys felt it, smelled it and could
really die. I didn't make it to 'Nam. However, I was in Korea, during the Pueblo Incident. Really tense time, as the North Koreans hanged the Air Force personnel they captured in 1950. Later, when I joined the Navy, I was nearly killed five times in three years in shipboard accidents, and it was peacetime. A friend, on his first day on an aircraft flight deck, saw another guy cut in half by a restraining hook. My friend got the bottom of his boot cut off. Yet, everyone I've mentioned had it easy compared to those who fought in the Revolution. So,go ahead, "sunshine patriots" whine when I say I will not renounce violence to protect the liberties I thought I was protecting. I defended this country for the Constitution, not the freakin' government.

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It Depends

If you're a Japanese American, your father was perhaps forced into a concentration camp in Wyoming or Utah so you could be "free".

If your father was a G.I. on a landing craft at Normandy there is a possibility he was there because he was drafted against his will and had no choice but to be there (in order for you to be "free").

the Founding Fathers went through much as well.

Just read a good history book to see what I mean.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

are you kidding yo?

you bet. Those guys, Jefferson, Madison, etc. if caught by the Brits would have been hanged on the spot, as traitors. And yes, marching into cannon balls and grapeshot must have been every bit as fearsome as storming machine gun nests.

Also remember no anesthesia.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

My bad.

That really was too much understatement. One person even had his own home fired upon after he found it had been taken over by the RedCoats. There is an excellent post from the "as I Suspected" thread that points out all the details, written by Thomas. Amazing.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Yep. Founders page "The Price They Paid"

What happened to the original signers of the Declaration of Independence:


"Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers or both, looted the properties of Ellery, Clymer, Hall, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the Battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis, had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. The owner quietly urged General George Washington to open fire, which was done. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his grist mill were laid waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home after the war to find his wife dead, his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.

Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. There were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

It is all I talk about - 9/11 TRUTH NOW!!!

this is how we can end wars...at least for a while. Just keep bringing up events throughout history of government-sponsored terror; and over and over again..for 2 years now! all of my family has deserted me because of it but press on and someday they'll have to admit they bowed down to govmt pressures and did nothing for the patriot movement. a couple of em are starting to come around and my dad's mother even said she wants to support the patriot movement in whatever way possible but she still thinks W is a christian and the patriot act is a good thing!!! and yet, as one family member starts to turn I report to everyone, though all are still in darkness, of the awesome progress of this one, and that sends shockwaves throughout the whole family and soon everyone is on that same baby-step of TRUTH.

...because Truth cannot remain hidden indefinitely, I cannot stop until everyone shares the same reality of end the fed's ch.4 "central banks and war" (whenever I lend this book I will call off and on and always, whenever anything even slightly related to the movement is mentioned, will I interject that that chapter clears up sooo much that is unanswered!!!; such a magnifecent work of info and reason)

"ron paul is not running....ron paul is not running" -bloomberg 'expert' morning after the bloodbath, i mean, debate!

911 truth is a top thread at Christian Forums

a major website, they are really hashing this out



I have had similar arguments about Bush in my family, divided people who love each other very much. He's like that demon seed Damien, people love him but what did he bring? War, death, ruin, division of families.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Bookmarked and bumped

seems like a worthwhile effort.

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