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UNM Police Want Guest (Kokesh) Disarmed, Despite Threats *UPDATED

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: January 13, 2011

Adam Kokesh adamvstheman@gmail.com

***UPDATE*** 8:56 pm EST January 13, 2011

THREATENED IRAQ VET DENIED FREEDOM OF SPEECH & DEFENSE

Albuquerque – After sending out the press release below, Iraq veteran, former congressional candidate, and host of Adam VS The Man on AM 1550 KIVA, Adam Kokesh was “uninvited” from participating in the scheduled taping of “The Line” today for KNME TV. Despite receiving death threats, Kokesh was originally denied his request to legally open carry at the studios on the University of New Mexico campus, then abruptly denied his opportunity to participate in this publicly sponsored political talk program. At 11am this morning, KNME Director of Content Franz Joachim called Kokesh to inform him that because of the previous press release he was no longer welcome.

Regarding this gross disregard for public safety and freedom of speech, Kokesh said, “No Iraqi ever threatened me, but I was given a gun and told to patrol Iraq to fight for our freedoms. When I came home, fellow Americans threatened me, and I was denied my basic right to self-defense. Having a government sponsored institution making people feel unsafe to speak out politically is unacceptable.”

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UNM POLICE WANT GUEST DISARMED, DESPITE THREATS
by Adam Kokesh on Thursday, January 13, 2011 at 1:49am

Albuquerque – As a guest for a taping of “THE LINE” for KNME TV last week, Adam Kokesh was unknowingly in violation of state law and University of New Mexico policy when he open carried his revolver into the studio. Adam Kokesh, an Iraq veteran, activist, former congressional candidate and host of Adam VS The Man on AM1550 KIVA, open carries on a daily basis. He says it is because, “I have received death threats in the past as a result of political speech and prefer to rely on myself for my personal protection rather than the government. After all, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away. I also believe that responsible gun ownership is in the best interest of public safety.”

Kokesh was scheduled to return each Thursday through the end of the month for three more tapings. On Tuesday, KNME producer Kevin McDonald emailed Kokesh to say, “I hadn’t faced it before, and wasn’t sure what the policies were ahead of time, so I didn’t say anything last week… but I have done my homework and have to let you know that you are not allowed to bring your gun into the station. We are technically part of the UNM campus, and they forbid it unless you are part of ROTC or a peace officer.” In that email, he included a link to the law and the UNM policy which forbids “weapons of any kind on campus.” He also pointed out, “I want you to know that no one complained about this last week.”

Kokesh responded by email, asking permission from UNM in accordance with state law. “In light of recent events in Tucson, I think it is particularly important for someone such as myself who has received death threats in the past to be able to carry a firearm for self defense. Unfortunately, I do not meet any of the criteria under the law that you point out. Neither would a deranged shooter, but they seem to have a pattern of ignoring just these kinds of laws. . . . I would like you to ask the university to approve me to be armed while on campus for the taping as a 'university approved program' as per section A.(4) of section 30-7-2.4 of New Mexico State law. Please let me know if the university will allow me to enter the campus armed before the taping tomorrow.”

According to McDonald's response by email, UNM Police denied his request. “I did talk to the UNM police finally and they said they would not approve an exception in this case, but said you are more than welcome to call the President’s office and try there. Without that permission from the President’s office, I’m afraid I’m just not going to be able to budge. I am sorry if all this puts a damper on your desire to participate, or even forces you to decide not to, but I completely understand if it does.”

Adam Kokesh plans to attend the taping tomorrow unarmed as he is willing to take what he described as a “small risk to spread the message of freedom” during his radio show last night. “While I do not expect this to be resolved before the taping tomorrow, I will continue to seek orderly resolution of this matter by personally contacting both the UNM police and the President's office.” The taping will take place at the KNME studios on the UNM campus at 1130 University Blvd NE at 4pm today.

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The Gun is Civilization

Adam closed his show with this essay... It's awesome!

by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or make me do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it, nothing else.

In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction and the only thing that
Removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.

When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.

The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 90-pound woman on equal footing with a 230-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.

People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.

Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways.
Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.

People who think that fists, bats, and sticks do not constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.

The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.

When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced only persuaded.
I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.

So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.

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That is awesome

Thank you.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Wow

this is good

That is very well written and articulated!

Thanks for posting that.

I wonder why this has a different title, slightly different text, and is unsigned:

Why The Gun In Civilization
http://gunowners.org/wv52.htm

and America loses another battle

this lack of trust along with an allowance of wrongful action is just sad

so much for "supporting our troops" eh?

can't even trust a vet with a fundamental right

disheartening

merciful heavens--

what behavior!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Adam just informed me he was uninvited...Look for his update

which is coming soon...

Don't forget to tune in to the radio show tonight 11:00 pm EST www.AdamvstheMan.com

Things are turned upside down!


The law abiding citizen is forbidden from protecting himself, and killers ignore the very same laws and take a gun where they please.

Perhaps he should decline

Why doesn't Adam just call in from off campus? Programs do that all the time. Letting the anti-gun nuts win, especially given the current environment, seems like the wrong thing to do. Yes, spreading the word is important, but sometimes the word is best spread through actions rather than words.

Good Point

However, I think in this case, Adam has weighed the benefits of spreading the message higher than fighting a university policy. Which, if the message is accepted, will eventually change anyway.

I also do not have a problem with educational institutions having unique policies. Not saying I agree with this one, but I think a philosophical arguement could be made to support their need to do so. There is also a student quasi-government system that is elected and could try to change it legislatively, as well as a faculty council, not to mention the elected regents that could change the rules through a democratic process.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

haven't there always been places

where people were expected to "turn in their firearms" for legitimate reasons. Didn't some towns like Dodge City for example require people to turn in their guns or simply not carry them?

I got no problems either with open or concealed carry
just wonderin...

I know corrections officers are not allowed to have firearms for the obvious reason that it can be taken

Yes

There always has.

of course back in the day

that also meant that a few "authorized" personnel (like sheriffs, deputies and airline pilots for example) carried weapons in order to maintain the peace...

No, not always.


The right to defend yourself and bear arms has been slowly whittled away over time by government dictators, like most everything else.

We were actually meant to have a militia of armed citizens in every community to protect against tyranny and invasion, and maintain a balance of power between the people and the government.

In fact this is the only thing in our Constitution that is listed as necessary for freedom or a free state.

Simple & free. Unalienable right. Right Un-a-lien-able.

You possess this right. Allow no loan or lien against it. You cannot sell, loan, be stripped of it by any rule or law per the US Constitution.

Void where prohibited by law.
Some restrictions may [pretend to] apply.

Property rights may prohibit your passage over private land.

Odd rules made; conflicts everywhere.

Things might be better as simple as possible... no more so.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Well said...

People often "overlook" that part of the second amendment.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

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I'm really worried, now.

Now, everyone knows including all of the crazies.

Well, it seems that

this clearly identifies UNM as hostile foreign territory.

Personally, I would refuse to be taped, unarmed, in hostile foreign territory.

There is no reason a simple taped interview coudldn't be done on neutral ground. Or perhaps he should just forget about the UNM interview totally, and distribute DVDs on campus for his message.

How come Gary Johnson didn't change that law...

while he was governor. BTW, maybe Adam can find
an Oath Keeper, who has a permit for campus carry to escourt him to and from the campus.

good idea

Oath Keeper police officer to protect Adam is a great idea.

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