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Freedom Watch 1/19/11 - Ron Paul and Ralph Nader interviewed together!

Here is the Paul/Nader segment from MOXNEWS:


Or you can watch the complete episode here:



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Nader is a zombie-socialist

And I would be surprised if he could name me two of the first Ten Amendments. It's against federal law to wiretap, punishable by five years in jail? Bah! It's unconstitutional, you should start with that, Nader! Laws change like the wind, the Constitution is the law of the land, mister!
I don't understand the stupidity and/or arrogance of people who saw socialism fail numerously and continue drumming the same old spiel.

I posted this on DailyKos....


Hoping that at least one individual can see the light of Liberty shine through.

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

You are to be commended for

You are to be commended for sticking in there and actually reasoning with them.

That was actually my first visit at the DailyKos, and what an eyeopener! In about the first ten comments towards you, I heard every slanted, rhetorical charge against Libertarianism imaginable.

Perhaps the most interesting one - interesting because it happens to be theoretically true - was this one: "they (Libertarians) do believe that private citizens should be free to discriminate on any basis they wish to." Well, we do want men to be free.. but we don't WANT them to use their freedom unjustly. There is a price to pay for Liberty.

How can government coercion cure personal prejudices? At best, it poorly deals with the visible symptoms. It cannot deal with the underlying corruption in things, only the outer expressions. I can make a man behave by tying him to a chair, but that does nothing to change his internal corruption. Tying him to the chair is worse than the disease! Progressives have a hard time seeing the inherent dangers involved with advocating coercion to cure social ills. The whole thing becomes a power struggle, like men fighting over a gun.

Nader is a consumer advocate and a great one at that...

Anyone else see this Documentary?


It really helped me understand his quirkyness and why he is the way he is. I have a lot more respect for him after watching it. Anyone who displays this amount of passion and sacrifices as much as he has, deserves a little R•E•S•P•E•C•T.

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

"Radicals Unite for Change"

Fox's subtitle. Does the Judge not have control of those?

Is it time to push for an

Is it time to push for an official third party? The TEA party? HACK THE ROOT!

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

Hot, Hot, Hot....... GREAT interview!

What a DAY this has been.... and it's only the morning!

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!



9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012

Nice to see these two together

The Naders & Pauls must team up on agreed issues & act or we are F-d.

Napolitano is becoming the best political tv guy around.

When Nader was listing off

When Nader was listing off the common issues of Libertarians/Greens I felt like he was setting up to throw his Green Party support behind Paul. I don't know how many people are in the Green Party, but that would be great to combine their numbers with ours.

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy

Yes... that is my thought..

Yes... that is my thought..

great to see

great to see people from different sides coming to fight the beast coming together -- wonderful!

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Did not watch yet but

I really am not too fond of Mr. Nader

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Now this is a great

Now this is a great discussion! And to think it took place on the FOX network....

Perhaps there are indeed significant practical gains to be made by uniting on certain issues with progressives. But as one poster pointed out below, what comes after is the big unknown.

Still, all in all, can anyone here really argue that what Nader wants in health care (single payer public funding with private delivery) any worse than the corporatism we already have? In my way of thinking, it is a step better, but still a mile away from where we need to be. In Nader's system, waste would still suck countless millions away from actual services. The administrative cost alone would be astronomical. And we all know how efficient government is at administrating its programs. It's such a well oiled machine, LMAO!

the health care

issue will never be resolved until people have a better understanding of what "insurance" is. As long as people equate "health insurance" with all health care costs, they will never be able to come up with a system that actually controls costs.

People understand that it would be silly to pay a monthly fee for "house insurance" and then have free reign to call the home repair man every time a light bulb goes out. People understand that it would be silly to pay a monthly fee for "clothing insurance" and then go to the department store and walk away with anything off the shelves. Why they have convinced themselves that medical services are any different is beyond me.

The only difference in Nader's system is that rather than private insurance executives stealing all of the money from people while serving no purpose themselves, government workers would be stealing the money while serving no purpose instead.

Thanks for reminding me. I

Thanks for reminding me. A very good response.

Gosh -

it almost felt like 2007 again...

Obama = O.ne B.ig A.ss M.istake A.merica

Best interview

I have seen on his show to date.

I loved the ringside announcer styled intro, he gave them.

"AAAAND IN THIS COOORNER weighing in @ 175 lbs from Clute TexAAAS"

They don't want us to find common ground. They want to keep us divided with wedge issues, and phony paradigms.

Find the things you can agree on, and work from there. Liberty is essentially our common bond.

Just awesome!

Just awesome!



"The casualty of partisanship is objectivity."

Thanks for the post.

Ralph sounded like Ron's campaign chairman.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose



Here we had at once RP's ticket:
Nader-Campaign Chairman

"Air is the very substance of our freedom, the substance of superhuman joy....aerial joy is freedom."--Gaston Bachelard--

I agree. I thin Ralph sees

I agree. I think Ralph sees what many of us do. Ron Paul has a chance.

hahaha... well yea there are

hahaha... well yea, there are a FEW areas where we Liberterians and Conservatives can work with Nader.
But there are also many we can not. Working together to get rid of demopublicans... I'm all for it.. but what happens after that.. You are right back to the libertarian consrvative Republican party of Taft against The "progressive" liberals. So we boot out the noecons of the dems and repubs then what?

Sorry but I still can't stand Nader. Ron Paul as calm and cool as always. Ron Paul is the only one I see who is fit to be President.

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