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RLC Chair Dave Nalle trying to sabotage CPAC vote?

RLC chair Dave Nalle is trying to sabotage the CPAC vote
and take votes away from Ron Paul and bring them to Gary Johnson.

Here is his comment on facebook.

"Ron is not going to run for president. Period. I have sources. That being the case why aren't all the C4L people getting onboard with Gary Johnson?"


This email was passed on to me and I've been given permission to circulate it. In regards to Dave Nalle claiming Ron Paul is not running.

"Dr. Paul is strongly considering a run, and we are taking steps to assess his overall viability. Public and private polling shows Dr. Paul holding fourth place in the national race, a virtual first tier candidate, with strong positives and near universal name ID. Mr. Nalle is certainly welcome to back whomever he pleases, but we should insist he tell the truth.

Jesse Benton
Political Director
Congressman Ron Paul"

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Oh Good Grief...

Neither have announced a campaign yet and everyone is ready to go cannibal on one another. Settle down please. It was a facebook posting for Gods sake not a press release or national news by a nationally known figure (no offense to Mr. Nalle).

Seems people are missing the forest for the trees. We are all libertarian minded but we are not all lockstep bobbleheads. Some of us are atheists, some devoutly religious. Some of us are pro-life while others are pro-choice. I personally am a pro-choice atheist. But that did not stop me one bit from supporting with all my efforts a pro-life Christian like Dr. Paul and it is not reason enough to start slamming Gary Johnson as a murderous tyrant because he does not follow in lockstep our every individual belief. I supported him as we all did because we share a common belief in the principles of liberty, limited government and the Constitution and because he is the only man in congress and was the only candidate in the field with a track record to prove it. Gary Johnson is the same with a solid record as well. The goal of libertarians and the C4L should be the advancement of liberty, regardless of who bares the torch.

If the good doctor runs again, I will support him. And if Gary Johnson runs I will support him as well. They are slightly different in their views on some issues but Reason magazine has already quoted Dr. Paul as saying "I can't imagine endorsing anybody else". If Dr. Paul likes him and can get past the differences, we should as well.

But we are going to have to face facts. By the time the election comes around he will be in his late 70's and while I believe he can still do the job better than those half his age, the general voting population may not be convinced and the national media will have a field day. Just look what they did to John McCain because of his age, and they liked him. And no member of the House as far back as I can think has successfully campaigned for the presidency. I supported Dr. Paul anyway but these are the facts. Governors have and do win regularly. Stab at me all you want for saying what you don't want to hear but we are not the ones that need convincing that Dr. Paul would be a great president. It's that every growing 40% independent and undecided voter we need.

The more libertarian minded candidates in the field and in the Republican party, the better. Stop going crazy over a stupid erroneous facebook posting. I swear sometimes the worst enemy of the libertarian movement are the libertarians themselves wasting so much time squabbling over little things like this and not enough time on the bigger picture.

Sounds like a backstab to me

The link to a website at the bottom of Dave Nally's postings here on Dailypaul takes us to a website whose lead article at the top of the page is a widely known enemy of Ron Paul who, ran nasty against Ron Paul sometime after Ron Paul fired him, who went on to support war monger Rudy Guiliani.

Does it sound to anybody else that the RLC is thouroughly infiltrated by NeoCons?

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty" TJ

Besides everything that has been said

in this thread.

I am wondering why the RLCC and CPAC are scheduled for the same weekend this year?

Ron Paul is My President

Who the Fark is Dave Nalle


Big news the president of the senior class at North high supports Gary North instead of Ron Paul.

Ignore him he is completely irrelevant and obviously a deuce head.

Back during Super Tuesday

Back during Super Tuesday 2008 a rumor was started in my general area that Ron Paul was no longer running and dropped out of the race. The result of that outright lie was that a number of people who were planning to vote for Ron Paul did not do so.

The statement quoted above can easily have the same type of negative affect. It's quite possible that was the intent behind the message.



If Ron Paul doesn't run then I am all in on Judge Andrew Napalitano or Peter Schiff.

Ian, give me a reak.

Ian, that first line is a gross mischaracterization of what I did. I got overexcited by the news that Dr. Paul was seriously considering a Senate run here in Texas - an office I think he would have a very good chance of winning. I certainly was not trying to undermine his CPAC efforts.

We have the luxury this year of having at least two excellent pro-liberty candidates considering a presidential run, so if Dr. Paul decides to do something different and in some ways more exciting we're very lucky that we'll (hopefully) still have Gov. Gary Johnson in the race to push most of the same issues and hold the other candidates to a high standard.

The RLC supports Ron Paul as we have for 20+ years and you should know that's true. I voted for him in '88 and in 2008 and would love another opportunity to do so.

Why do so many want to fight over this when we should be rejoicing that our message has become so much more accepted?


Dave Nalle
Chairman, Republican Liberty Caucus

So you do not deny posting

So you do not deny posting the following comment?:

"Ron is not going to run for president. Period. I have sources. That being the case why aren't all the C4L people getting onboard with Gary Johnson?"

Those are not words of excitement or support for Ron Paul. It seems more like an attack at Ron Paul's expense in order to garner additional support for Gary Johnson.

Now that you know Ron Paul is seriously considering a run, you need to post a retraction to the statement you made.

And, if you do truly support Dr. Paul, actions speak louder than words - let us see you post a REAL message of support for him.

Finally, why would you want Ron Paul to give up his status as a senior member & chair of the monetary committee which oversees the Fed in order to become a junior senator?


Good questions all

I look forward to Nalle's answers.

Dave, why do you spread false rumors about Dr. Paul?


Dave, you are causing divide

Dave, you are causing divide in the movement. I like Gary, but he does not and will not have my full support especially with this type of tactic.

We need to unite and your msg was forget Ron Paul back Johnson, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

To be clear

What I originally posted was not prompted by anything having to do with Gary Johnson. I was excited by the idea of Dr. Paul running for Senate here in Texas.


Dave Nalle
Chairman, Republican Liberty Caucus

Senate? are you serious? Dr

Senate? are you serious? Dr Paul has been appointed to chair of the committee that monitors the federal reserve. now why would we want Ron Paul to be a Jr. MEMBER WITH NO POWER in the senate when he is a senior member and chair in the congress?

Who do you really work for? We are not stupid here and I now question your integrity.

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you being overexcited and going off...

half cocked is NOT the kind of leadership that we, the people will accept now or in the future

i suggest you get a grip on just exactly what it is that you are doing or this power you have been granted by the people will be placed in cooler hands

no more mistakes like this david, you won't get another chance to screw it up!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

I hear you

Reading some Marcus Aurelius as pennance.


Dave Nalle
Chairman, Republican Liberty Caucus

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well, that's cool...

i appreciate your reply if you aren't being condescending

however, neverquit brings up a couple of very good points

to be honest, its hard to make these kind of mistakes unless you are trying to

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

FYI, RLC = Republican Liberty

FYI, RLC = Republican Liberty Caucus (I think). I do not know who they are or why I care.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

it wont work

Ron Paul is The Champion of the Constitution!

Gary Johnson

We do need to have liberty loving successors to the mantle of Ron Paul, because his career won't last forever.

Gary Johnson seems to be an ok guy, and we need to know him better. Maybe he would make someone to consider for vice-president.

I really do worry about CPAC this year. So many neocon politicians are avoiding, maybe you could say boycotting, the conference because of the participation of a homosexual pressure group.

This serves a double purpose:

First, it helps those losers in the neocon camp avoid another loss to Ron Paul

Second, it enhances the strength of the homosexual contingent and the libertine wing of the libertarian movement, and gives them the chance to undermine Ron Paul.

I personally don't have the means to spend on traveling to D. C. just to cast a straw vote.

I don't know what the rest of you plan to do, but the limited participation will diminish the importance of this year's CPAC. It is plain to me that the Republican Party is engaged in an internal civil war and I have no idea what will come of it. Suffice it to say that those in control of the money and the media are not on our side, and the libertine contingent is not good for the Republican Party either.

GJ's pac just ran an article in theWAPO saying gary was

a whole lot more' than Ron, etc. He is undermining Ron, after Ron did so much to raise his profile. I don't need him, there are other candidates.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul


I know this is old but do you have a link?Thank You!

Johnson is an abortioner, aka

Johnson is an abortioner, aka approves the murder of innocent fetuses. Anybody who supports Johnson supports murder and tyranny.

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

except that as governor

he passed anti-abortion legislation. seems strange that someone who claims to be pro-choice would still work within the system to pass pro-life bills. oh and he is for overturning roe v. wade.

nobody is perfect, but his RECORD on the issue is more important then his rhetoric. Consistently he was more pro-life than pro-choice as governor.

liberty lover in Nor Cal!

just an update --Dave Nalle

just an update --Dave Nalle has seen the error of his ways:

Dave Nalle: Interesting news from a reliable source. Despite relative silence from his organization, it appears that Ron Paul us still seriously weighing his options for 2012 and very much wants to see a strong showing for liberty candidates at CPAC, himself included. So get your butts to DC and make yourself heard.

(the reliable source this time was Jesse Benton --I'd say that's a pretty close source, don't you?)

ON WITH CPAC! Vote for Ron Paul! If you can't afford to get there please join Ron Paul Forums and ask for help. You have until January 31st to get discount tickets through the C4L website!



Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

It is what Dave Published on

It is what Dave Published on his facebook page, sailingaway...here you go, you must belong to facebook in order to read it:


As events

unfold in the middle east, Ron Paul's Non-intervention foreign policy position will gain much more attention as it is clear that the NeoCon wet dream of conquering the Arab nations is a disaster. People will be paying attention to Dr. Paul's foreign policy like never before. Dr. Paul isn't going anywhere but to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Gary can be VP.