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House Passes Patriot Act Rule, Clears Way for Passage

By Josiah Ryan | The Hill

The House passed a rule Thursday setting up a second vote to extend Patriot Act surveillance authorities until Dec. 8.

The new rule clears the way for the legislation to be passed by just a simple majority, after the same bill failed to win a two-thirds majority under a suspension of House rules earlier in the week.

In the suspension vote, more than two dozen Republicans bucked their leadership and joined Democrats to sink the extension.

In floor debate preceding Thursday’s vote on the rule, Democrats jabbed Republicans for dropping the first vote and protested the “closed rule” for the second vote, which prevents amendments.

Continue at: The Hill

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Even though they voted this way, doesn't mean they are going to vote for it on the final vote.

“A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.”

-Lysander Spooner

we the people need to

pass "The Real Patriot Act" if you are not familiar with it GOOGLE "real zionist news the real patriot act"

at wounded knee

Is there a list of just the Republicans on this list?

seems like this would be a good starter list for who to primary in 2012, this issue is as good a litmus test as anything else.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

here is my "list' post

consolidated into this one:

Representatives who voted FOR the Patriot Act last Tues., IS YOURS ONE OF THEM? Call to tell them to vote NO. The Egyptians have taught us that freedom has to be fought for. If you are not sure who your congressman is put in your zip code HERE

Capitol switchboard connecting all offices 24/7 (can leave a voice-mail after-hours): 1-202-224-3121

Ackerman
Adams
Aderholt
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Alexander
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Full roll call vote for last Tuesday, the "Nays" at the bottom are the ones who did the right thing: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll026.xml

BACKGROUND ARTICLE:

FBI Found to Misuse Security Letters: 2003-06 Audit Cites Probes of Citizens
FBI Found to Misuse Security Letters - washingtonpost.com

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life.
-- Muhammad Ali

Jason Chaffetz??

Really? He seemed like one of the better ones....I didn't really think he was in favor of this.

“A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.”

-Lysander Spooner

Wasn't Boehner the one that

Wasn't Boehner the one that said EVERY LAW THEY PASSED would have the constitutional justification in it?

Is anyone in the MSM going to call him out on it?

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

His phone should be ringing

His phone should be ringing off the hook. Darned Patriot act most likely spawned the Tea Party...

What did my new congressman

What did my new congressman Rick Crawford do?
I did not see his name on any list..

Yes, He was.

Ah, No. (to your second question, unless Napolitano chooses to do so)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

yeah

yet another neo-con liar.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Who, unfortunately, has the

Who, unfortunately, has the support of the Tea Party.

Bachmann made no such promises, but she is much of the same. Loved by the Tea Party, but no real policy differences from the Bush Republicans.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Dazed & Confused

Can someone explain to me what and how the 'new rule' came into being and what the procedures are. How did they go from 2/3 majority to a simple majority in just 2 days?

It was

the way they try to ram it back through. They voted on the rules for reconsideration of the bill, which was a closed rule. It allows for a small debate, no amendments, and only requires a simple majority. It's a shame really that bill are allowed to be rammed down our throat by declaring it an emergency.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Fraud... Rhymes with odd & sod.

Spells trouble. Irregular spell cast.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Here is the thing though: Who

Here is the thing though:

Who benefits from the patriot act?

Bank deregulation, the banks.

Medicare Part D, seniors

Obamacare, the insurance companies

The wars, the military-industrial complex

But who, either donor or voter, benefits from the patriot act? What is the motive for passing it? Since I don't see corporations loving this bill and pushing for the people that they have bought to pass it, maybe it's due to voters? Politicians are afraid that if they vote against the Patriot Act, they will be slammed as "weak" in the next election, and will lose when the "sheep" believe the lies.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Poll

I think I feel sick

That poll shows why this country is so messed up. It's hard to fight for people's rights when they are begging for the government to take those rights away.

Give me the Duck

Give me the Duck Tape.....................
My Head is going to explode!!!!!!!!!!!

The American Dream............
you have to be asleep to believe it!

I don't know if mine will....

but, hey We Didn't Start the Fire....

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Who do they represent?

Us?

Who?

Who votes for these people?

Stupid ****ing Sheep

who vote for someone just because they "CLAIM" to be Teaparty or a Libertarian small gov republican. Stupid ****ing Brainwashed sheep that same brain dead idiots that gave us Obama. The same that do not realize without getting rid of electronic voting machines you might as well stay bent over and stop begging for lube because they like to hear you scream.

The same idiots that will be starving to death before the year is out begging for help STILL unable to grasp what happened.

The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare

I agree, BUT, you can't blame

I agree,

BUT, you can't blame people that were lied too (well, not TOO much) I lay 70% of the blame at the traitor politicians, not the sheeple.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

people

choose not to educate themselves, but I will be kind and say the crooks get 51% of the blaim the sheep get 49%.

The Abuse of Greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power. - Shakespeare

Simple majority to strip our Constitutional Reights?

Has Congress no shame?

Inalienable rights?

Aliened by simple majority?

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I'm so sick of this crap. Let

I'm so sick of this crap. Let them do their worst. Let it crumble. It seems it is the only way to get the attention of the sheeple. It's like being nauseated for 20 years - now I just want to throw up and get it over with. Whoever said that the people get the government they deserve is mostly correct. The idiots that refuse to see reality deserve it mightily. The rest of us have the dubious pleasure of saying, "we told you so". I sometimes wonder if a mass culling of the herd isn't a bad idea after all.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

If they chose to 'thin the herd'

DYOC as to who would be thinned out.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

It's called black humor. What

It's called black humor. What I am saying (if not already clear) is that I am sick to death of people not getting the message. Watching CPAC and all the pathetic cowards applauding for the worst war criminals in our nation's history was really the final straw.

The emotion I am trying to convey is despair and a very weary exasperation for my fellow countrymen. I really don't know how Ron remains so upbeat and optimistic, but I do take it to heart most of the time. This issue just really pisses me off.

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that." — Alan Greenspan

I'm Sorry, my friend....

This is a sore spot with me as well. I am weary of those who think security can be gained by forfeiting essential liberties.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

The Patriot Act is repugnant to the Constitution

"a law repugnant to the Constitution is void, and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument (the Constitution)." In other word the Constitution is the Supreme law above all others.

http://www.dailypaul.com/156638/uh-ohpatriot-act-extension-t...

This is the strongest argument I've found so far.

Free includes debt-free!