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"Government" is a religion. (Larken Rose)

This post is an excerpt from Larken Rose's new book, The Most Dangerous Superstition. Reprinted with permission of the author.

The Religion of "Government" (TMDS pp. 28-32.)

"Government" is neither a scientific concept nor a rational sociological construct; nor is it a logical, practical method of human organization and cooperation. The belief in "government" is not based on reason; it is based on faith. In truth, the belief in "government" is a religion, made up of a set of dogmatic teachings, irrational doctrines which fly in the face of both evidence and logic, and which are methodically memorized and repeated by the faithful. Like other religions, the gospel of "government" describes a superhuman, supernatural entity, above mere mortals, which issues commandments to the peasantry, for whom unquestioning obedience is a moral imperative. Disobedience to the commandments ("breaking the law") is viewed as a sin, and the faithful delight in the punishment of the infidels and sinners ("criminals"), while at the same time taking great pride in their own loyalty and humble subservience to their god (as "law-abiding taxpayers") And while the mortals may humbly beg their lord for favors, and for permission to do certain things, it is considered blasphemous and outrageous for one of the lowly peasants to imagine himself to be fit to decide which of the "government" god's "laws" he should follow and which it is okay for him to ignore. Their mantra is, "You can work to try to change the law, but as long as it's the law, we all have to follow it!"
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The main factor distinguishing the belief in "government" from other religions today is that people actually believe in the god called "government." The other gods people claim to believe in, and the churches they attend, are now, by comparison, little more than empty rituals and half-heartedly parroted superstitions. When it comes to their everyday lives, the god that people actually pray to, to save them from misfortune, to smite their enemies, and to shower them with blessings, is "government." It is "government" whose commandments the people most often respect and obey. Whenever a conflict arises between "government" and the teachings of the lesser gods -- such as "pay your fair share" (taxation) versus "Thou shalt not steal," or "duty to country" (military service) versus "Thou shalt not murder" -- the commands of "government supersede all the teachings of the other religions. Politicians, the high priests of the church of "government" -- the mouthpieces and representatives of "government," who deliver the sacred "law" from on high -- even openly declare that it is permissible for the people to practice whatever religion they wish, as long as they do not run afoul of the supreme religion by disobeying "the law" -- meaning the dictates of the god called "government."

Perhaps most telling is that if you suggest to the average person that maybe God does not exist, he will likely respond with less emotion and hostility than if you bring up the idea of life without "government." This indicates which religion people are more deeply emotionally attached to, and which religion they actually believe in more firmly. In fact, they believe so deeply in "government" that they do not even recognize it as being a belief at all. The reason so many people respond to the idea of a stateless society ("anarchy") with insults, apocalyptic predictions and emotional tantrums, rather than with calm reasoning, is because their belief in "government" is not the result of careful, rational consideration of evidence and logic. It is, in every way, a religious faith, believed only because of prolonged indoctrination. And there is almost nothing which state-worshipers find more existentially terrifying than contemplating the possibility that "government" -- their savior and protector, teacher and master -- does not actually exist, and never did.
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It might be nice to have some morally superior, all-powerful deity to protect the innocent and to prevent injustice. And that is what statists hope "government" will be: a wise, unbiased, all-knowing and all-powerful "final decider" that will override and supersede the flawed, shortsighted and selfish whims of man, unerringly dispensing justice and fairness. However, there is no such thing, and can be no such thing, and there are many reasons why it is utterly foolish to look to "government" as the solution to human imperfection. For example, what almost every statist wants is for "government" to enforce objective rules of civilized behavior. More specifically, each individual wants his own perception of justice and morality to be enforced by "authority," while failing to realize that the moment there is an "authority," it is no longer up to that individual to decide what counts as moral or just -- the "authority" will claim the right to do that for him. And so, over and over again, believers in "authority" have tried to create an all-powerful force for good by anointing some people as rulers, only to quickly learn that once the master is on the throne, he does not care what his slaves were hoping he would do with the power they gave him.
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To expect otherwise, even without all of the historical examples, is absurd. To expect the master to serve the slave -- to expect power to be used solely for the benefit of the one being controlled, not the one in control -- is ridiculous. What makes it even more insane is that statists claim that appointing rulers is the only way to overcome the imperfections and untrustworthiness of man. Statists look out at a world full of strangers who have questionable motives and dubious morality, and they are afraid of what some of those people might do. That, in and of itself, is a perfectly reasonable concern. But then, as protection against what some of those people might do, the statists advocate giving some of those same people of questionable virtue a huge amount of power, and societal permission to rule over everyone else, in the vain hope that, by some miracle, those people will happen to decide to use their new-found power only for good. In other words, the statist looks at his fellow man and thinks, "I do not trust you to be my neighbor, but I do trust you to be my master."

Bizarrely, almost every statist admits that politicians are more dishonest, corrupt, conniving and selfish than most people, but still insists that civilization can exist only if those particularly untrustworthy people are given both the power and the right to forcibly control everyone else. Believers in "government" truly believe that the only thing that can keep them safe from the flaws of human nature is taking some of those flawed humans -- some of the most flawed, in fact -- and appointing them as gods, with the right to dominate all of mankind, in the absurd hope that, if given such tremendous power, such people will use it only for good. And the fact that that has never happened in the history of the world does not stop statists from insisting that it "needs" to happen to ensure peaceful civilization.
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The belief in "government" does not make everyone agree; it only creates an opportunity to drastically escalate personal disagreements into large-scale wars and mass oppression. Nor does having an "authority" settling a dispute do anything to guarantee that the "right" side wins. Yet statists talk as if "government" will be fair, reasonable, and rational in situations where individuals would not be. Again, this demonstrates that believers in "government" imagine "authority" to have super-human virtues that should be trusted above the virtues of mere mortals. History shows otherwise. A twisted sense of morality in one person, or a few, can result in the murder of one person, or even dozens, but that same twisted sense of morality in just a few people, when they get hold of the machine called "government," can result in the murder of millions. The statist wants his idea of the "good rules" forced on everyone by a central "authority," but has no way to make that happen and no reason to expect that it will happen. In their search for an all-powerful "good guy" to save the day, statists always end up creating all-powerful bad guys. Over and over again, they build giant, unstoppable "government" monsters in the hope that they will defend the innocent, only to find that the monsters become a far greater threat to the innocent than the threats they were created to protect against.




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Thanks

That is great to send to Government loving friends. The perfect argument against the God of Government.

I especially love the comparison as many Government loving people see themselves as "above" religion and totally "logical" and "rational".

Thanks

for posting.

And thanks to TxRedneck for the good info below.

Repent, for the reign of YaHUaH is near!

I can see it.

You can too right here on the DP.

Notice when you post a comment that is not favorable to religion, notably Evangelical Christianism. Watch the believers swarm in to attack and discredit.

And for comparison look at the State Worker / Public Union threads as of late and the heated "trollish" attacks. Very similar responses, almost identical activity.

You are so right, dabooda.

When any group is given more rights than any individual, liberty dies. And yes, belief in government is the true religion of most people.

Problem is, liberty requires more responsibility then people can deal with, so they try to preserve their individual liberty by giving up their individual responsibility to a group supposedly dedicated to preserving it for them.

It doesn't work. It can't work. You cannot give away your responsibility. It remains with you.

But, since most people will always TRY to give away their responsibility, the only way left open to the rest of us who recognize our responsibility is to cooperate with them the best we can. That means working within the "law" most of the time and "breaking the law" when necessary. It's a very uncomfortable reality, but I think an unavoidable one.

The law of the jungle (kill of be killed when limited resources put the survival needs of one in unavoidable conflict with the survival needs of another), and the law of interdependence (we can all survive better when we cooperate with each other to meet our needs) are the only true laws of human relations, and they cannot be repealed. What happens at any given moment is the result of the confluence of those two laws in the interactions of all the individuals capable of action.

There is no substitute for virtue or for wisdom. Those will always be the scarcest resources.

ultimatecynic

"Liberty means responsibility, that is why men dread it."

Quoth George Bernard Shaw.

Nice post, well said. My only quibble would be with

the law of interdependence (we can all survive better when we cooperate with each other to meet our needs)

Consider the law of diminishing returns. The more other men steal and extort from you, the less advantageous it becomes to live among them. There is a point at which one would be better off on a self-sustaining farm than living among predators. I think our present government is fast approaching that point of predatory self-destruction.

Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

"Government" is a religion

... and vice versa.

If anyone is still reading this thread...

...and is interested in this topic, here are 3 links I highly recommend (in order).

All from the Introduction to a Stateless Society

One More...

Thomas Woods and Doug Casey on YouTube: Is Limited Government an Oxymoron?

Not to difficult to

Not to difficult to understand why people see "government" as their saviour. In the school systems for about 100 years now, religion has been slowly removed from any mentioning, that is religion EXCEPT for a class that is mandatory, called "Government".

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Teaching blind obedience

(this reply paraphrases Larken Rose -- TMDS,pp. 59-60)

Government schools' primary purpose is to teach subservience and blind obedience to "authority." Kids are forced to spend their formative years in a world in which they receive approval, praise and reward for:

  • being where "authority" tells them to be, when they are told to be there.
  • doing what "authority" tells them to do.
  • speaking when and how "authority" tells them to speak.
  • parroting whatever ideas "authority" claims to be true and important.
  • immediately telling "authority" about any problems or personal conflicts they have.
  • complying with whatever rules, no matter how arbitrary, that "authority" imposes on them.
  • telling "authority" when another student has disobeyed "the rules."
  • They receive disapproval, reproach and punishment for failing to comply with any of these policies.

    The world of "school" has two distinct classes of people: masters ("teachers") and subjects ("students"). Teachers do as they like and make the rules for the students; students do whatever they are told. The "grades" the student receives and the way he is treated depend upon one thing: his ability and willingness to unquestioningly subjugate his own desires, judgment and decisions to those of "authority."

    After twelve years of this, the victims of such "education" have learned not to judge for themselves, but to obey "authority," in every aspect of their lives. They believe that their success in life, their very goodness as human beings, depends on how well they obey "authority."

    The fact that they have been trained to obey any order, no matter how irrational or immoral, is what makes the vast majority of evil in our world possible. And the keystone of their obedience is their belief in rightful "authority." Which does not exist . . .

    Tex, I am not sorry that (theistic) religion has left the public schools. I'm just sorry that the public schools are here at all.

    Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

    Sounds like a good read

    Larken Rose writes some great stuff.

    This is the best of the best.

    You, in particular, should enjoy it. I thought I was already about as radically anarchistic and superstition-free as one could be. I was wrong. . .

    If you'd like to read another short excerpt, go here.

    Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

    Thanks, I already ordered a copy

    I've known for some time that statism is a religious belief. It's going to be an interesting read to see how Larken expresses that.

    Bump

    Very well written, and there's a lot of substance behind his arguments.

    The whole book is up to that standard.

    Most people get hooked into libertarianism by reading Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. This book makes Rand look like a wannabe dictator, by comparison. Absolutely relentless logic, and love of liberty.

    Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

    Thanks. I will surely check

    Thanks. I will surely check it out.

    Wow

    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    Bump because this is just too good to fall off the page

    :-)

    Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

    Viva La Revolucion!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

    Make use of Jon's nifty new voting buttons.

    Vote up threads you think are important; it will keep them on the front page as "top recent topics," even after they temporarily drop off the "active forum topics" display.

    Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

    Just gave it the 3rd vote.....

    but it still isn't up there even though some with 2 votes are there. I actually am not getting this voting thing, but since so many are happy with it I think I'm just an old fart who isn't very "with it".

    Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

    Viva La Revolucion!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

    I've figured out why the voting button didn't do any good.

    I originally posted the article just before midnight on 2/20, and no one took any notice of it until the next day -- by which time Jon's new program didn't consider it to be a "recent" topic any more. Rats.

    Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

    Plus, people can vote it down and cancel you out

    I vote threads like this down. I think Larken is a nice guy, but associating the Ron Paul movement with convicted felons isn't good strategy. So I vote down stuff like this, birther stuff, conspiracy stuff, etc.

    It's nothing personal.

    You are SO right!!! I think

    You are SO right!!! I think I'll vote it down too.

    Politics, Political Correctness, getting Ron Paul elected, are things SO MUCH more important than Truth.

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    "Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
    People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

    That's a different issue.

    The key thing to keep in mind is that the voting buttons will only work with posts that are less than 9 hours old. And thanks for bumping the thread!

    Larken is a "felon" because he obeyed his conscience rather than an immoral "law." (Any command from the politicians is a "law.") You honor people for that, you don't shun them, if you have an ounce of decency.

    Recommended reading: The Most Dangerous Superstition, http://www.larkenrose.com/store/34-books/2019-the-most-dange...

    Larken violated the Law plain

    Larken violated the Law plain and simple. Contracts are enforceable, I'm sure Larken would agree with that.

    The US Code is a Contract, a Covenant. It is voluntary and it is revocable. If Larken does not want to be under the authority of the United States, then he should revoke his contract with them.

    The US Code IS the contract, anytime you violate one of the Statutes, they will quote which statute you have violated, but what you are truely being charged with is Breach of Contract. This contract only applies to United States Citizens as created in the 14th Amendment and Alien Residents.

    The "Terms" of the Contract are clearly spelled out in the Codes, INCLUDING the method by which you can revoke your contract (Title 8 Chapter 12 para 1481(a)(6)).

    Once you have revoke you contract through the US Attorney General, you will be given a certificate for loss of Nationality by the State Department, and this is sent to the IRS with you FINAL filling, as explained in IRS Sec 877 and 877a. There are some catches in the IRS part of this, if you lost your nationality for the PRIMARY purpose of avoiding taxes, then you must continue to file. And if you've made over X dollars income average over the last 5 years, or if your total worth exceeds $2 million, then you must continue to file for 10 more years.

    Taxes are volutary, because the WHOLE system is volutary. But if you choose to be a part of the system, then you must abide within the Contract, and the Contract requires payment for the benefits-even if you do not USE the benefit.

    If you are not party to the Contract (the US Codes) then the Terms of the Contract (the US Codes) do not apply to you.

    In a crime there MUST be an injured party. When a contract is breached, there IS an injured party. Most often when a "person" is charged with violating one of the Codes, the State is claiming to be the injured party.

    "UNITED STATES vs. JOHN Q. PUBLIC" or "STATE OF_________ vs. JOHN Q. PUBLIC".

    The first name in a filing is the Petitioner, the injured party. It is because John Q. Public violated the Contract, and the State is the OTHER party of the Contract. The State is claiming that they were injured as result of the Breach.

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    "Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
    People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

    Taxation is Voluntary ??

    Taxes are volutary, because the WHOLE system is volutary

    Watch Sen. Harry Reid answer the question: "Is taxation voluntary?"

    Yes, taxes are voluntary

    Yes, taxes are voluntary because the whole system is voluntary. If you don't want to pay taxes, then surrender your VOLUNTARY Nationality. If you are a national of the US, then taxes are required of you per the US Code. But you are not required by be under the Jurisdiction of that Code. Citizenship is volutary, therefore the taxes are voluntary. Taxes are only imposed upon Citizens and Alien Residents.

    Read IRS Publications 877 and 877a for further information on the elimination of the requirement to file returns when Nationality (Citizenship) is lost.

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    "Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
    People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

    Your rulers don't agree with you.

    From the IRS website:

    Frivolous Tax arguments - Payment of tax is voluntary

    (Too bad Weseley Snipes' attorneys didn't know about the magical IRS form 877)

    877 is not a form, it is a

    877 is not a form, it is a section of the IRS Code. Section 877 does NOT apply to US Citizens, it applies to EX-US Citizens. Wesley Snipes did not renounce his Citizenship, therefore Sec 877 would have ZERO relevance to him.

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    "Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
    People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

    If it's this simple, then why

    If it's this simple, then why aren't most people doing this?