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"Glenn Beck's Shtick? Alex Jones Got There First." Rolling Stone's New Follow Up

A part 2 follow up to the article about Alex Jones earlier in the week, Rolling Stones new piece talks about how Glen Beck always rips off Alex Jones.

By Alexander Zaitchik | Rolling Stone
March 4, 2011

Long before he inadvertently brought an end to a popular sitcom by hosting last week’s mega-viral interview with Charlie Sheen, talk-radio host Alex Jones established himself as a giant in America’s conspiracy subculture. The godfather of the 9/11 Truth Movement, Jones is the most popular chronicler of what he believes is a New World Order plot to enslave the global population.

Until recently, he was a lonely and little-known voice in the short wave and Internet radio wilderness. But as his audience has grown, other talk show hosts have taken notice — and cues. Among his most ardent imitators is Glenn Beck, whom Jones has accused of stealing his ideas, guests, and research. Last week, Jones posted a video clip on his site, InfoWars, offering evidence of this theft.

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this should probably be a different thread but

of possible interest to some here.
http://www.roguegovernment.com/Alex_Jones_And_Charlie_Sheen_...

This author accuses Alex Jones and Charlie Sheen of creating a public diversion for the benefit of the New World Order / Vatican Class Elite. It brings up some interesting background points about both Jones and Sheen.

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Trash surfaces: Paid radio callers for Beck, Hannity, & Limbaugh

More trash surfacing for the radio talking heads: Beck, Hannity, & Limbaugh. This is not beyond the realm of possibility with these people.

AJ has never had a call screener, and he is not involved in this controversy.

Conservative talk radio accused of using actors as callers
March 5, 2011

Allegations are being made, accusing conservative talk radio show hosts, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Glenn Beck, of using paid actors to portray angry callers into their nationally syndicated programs. [Columbia Journalism Review]

Published reports suggests that the call-in shows use actors provided through Premiere On Call, a subsidiary of Premiere Radio Networks. Premiere, which is the largest radio syndicator in the country, currently offers the broadcast trinity of Beck, Limbaugh, and Hannity to thousands of stations across the country.

“Premiere On Call is our new custom caller service,” read the service’s website, which disappeared as this story was being reported. “We supply voice talent to take/make your on-air calls, improvise your scenes or deliver your scripts. Using our simple online booking tool, specify the kind of voice you need, and we’ll get your the right person fast. Unless you request it, you won’t hear that same voice again for at least two months, ensuring the authenticity of your programming for avid listeners.”

http://calcoastnews.com/2011/03/conservative-talk-radio-accu...

Paid callers for RW radio means free speech is a joke.
Sat Mar 05, 2011 at 07:36 PM EST

If there are banks of paid callers calling Limbaugh and other right wing talkers from right wing think tanks or government agencies Americans need to know about it.

This level of coordinated misinformation makes national discussions of important problems impossible and short circuits the feedback loops that democracy depends on.

Radio Daze by LIEL LEIBOVITZ

Here are some excerpts:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/05/952830/-Paid-caller...

I hate to tell ya, but I do

I hate to tell ya, but I do not think anything is so wrong with this. It is all for entertainment, the host is not surprised, the caller may still be interesting, OH WELL. I know plenty of people who love Glenn Beck and so far not ONE of them is a lunatic. Will you guys PLEASE stop flaming a person's feelings just because they are not like yours? I mean, a poster mentions his favorite people in the world, and just because ONE does not match yours you call him names? GET OVER YOUR SILLY SELVES!!

Is it all for entertainment when they cartoon us w/ paid actors

Rush has often used the phrase, "The purpose of a caller is to make the host look good", to describe the type of challenger that he believes he can best display his neo-con brilliance against. Beck, who may not have said so, appears to agree.

Articulate Liberty-cons seldom to never let neo-cons look as good as they wanna be. That's why they need paid callers-of-the-day just like some would pay ladies-of-the-night.

I would never question anyone's favorite or worst person list, except to point out when those persons relate to each other much differently than he does.

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

I see a few

people posting this article on "The Blaze", Beck's infowars ripoff website. Pretty funny. I posted mine as well.

Also, Mike Lawson, I made it past 6 posts on "The Blaze". I think I am at like 10 now.....8)

Here was my last comment. (Probably my VERY last)

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/caught-on-video-nyc-woman-gi...

The difference between Beck and Jones

is Beck actually believes what he's saying. Jones has just created a paranoid conspiracy theorist CHARACTER, because he saw a market for it. When the show is over, Jones is just a normal guy and doesn't believe most of the stuff he talked about on his show. He doesn't really believe 9/11 was an inside job, or in chemtrails, for example. Beck's also trying to make money, of course, but he's brutally honest, even to the point of embarrassing himself. He really says what he believes, right or wrong, and whether you like it or not. Beck will change his mind if he starts believing something differently. Jones never changes his views or corrects himself on anything, because that doesn't fit into the character he's concocted. Glenn Beck is the real thing Alex Jones is a fictional character. I watch Jones videos on YouTube all the time for laughs. I love it. He's hilarious, because I realize it's all a prank.

My favorite people in the world: Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, Peter Schiff, Judge Napolitano, Milton Friedman, Bob Barr, and John Stossel

this guy

likes Glenn Beck and Ron Paul, enough said

So let me get this straight...

you are "smart enough" to see that Alex is all a prank....AND Glenn Beck is one of your favorite people? I'm confused. If you can't see through Glenn Beck, and figure out what "part" he plays in this theater of pain, then I have to be a little worried.

Glenn Beck is playing the part he is paid to play. He "educates" people on a lot of fronts, I can admit that. But his part is simply catching, or filtering, all the people that might see things Ron Pauls way, and then turning them towards the neo-con Tea Party types. You know, the ones who worry about most of the things we worry about, and talk about. BUT still want wars all over the world in order to keep us safe from non existent terrawrist. And while he's at it, go ahead and call Ron Paul a kook, his supporters terrorist...etc... He has his part, and it is to catch as many sheep as possible before they get out of the fence and find liberty and freedom with a Ron Paul movement.

Here's what we can learn from "theguy"

Starting with his taglines: "My favorite people in the world: Ron Paul, Glenn Beck..."

Ron Paul was asked what he thought of Glenn Beck, and he answered, "Well, I think he's somewhat of a demagogue."

Glen Beck has responded to a caller's question on his radio show by calling Ron Paul a "crazy, kooky guy."

Look at the brief number of times that Dr. Paul has appeared on Beck's show and how often our beloved senior Congressman is slighted, or worse, by Beck every time it serves his purpose.

Then look at the looong history Dr. Paul has in appearing regularly on with Alex Jones, going back over a decade! Jones never required Dr. Paul to subscribe or confess to any list of beliefs about things in order to get respectfully heard, but Beck does!

I could go on citing many other glaring examples of character inconsistency in theguy's "favorite people and worst people in people the world" lists by simply pointing out Dr. Paul's known friendships with many he thinks should be shunned or scorned.

If only theguy did a better job convincing us that he really knew, or even much cared about Ron Paul's associations, he might better persuade us to consider his opinions about what, "Beck actually believes", or whatever he feels, "Jones has just created".

Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. - Frederick Douglass

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If that were true, Alex would be on FOXNews.

I agree. theguy has it

I agree. theguy has it backwards. Beck is trying to steal credibility from the work of Alex Jones.

When you're programmed to be contrary. . .

I think it scans posts and finds general consensus and then switches the subjects to take the contrarian position. It's a pattern on all its posts. Very neat in a way. We should be honored to be a testing ground.

I say nay

on the "TheGuy" being a bot.

He's just extremely ill informed, and apparently not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Anyone that has a list of "favorite", and "least favorite" people in their sig., is......well......

Any links a bout this "software" you describe?

BTW, I saw your youtube of "Baby Faith". She is ADORABLE!!

My niece is about the same age, and lots of fun..

Fatherhood looks good on you. I'll call sometime. Hope all is well.

How does it determine the

How does it determine the consensus? Are they using the newly posted rating system with the negative and positive integers and/or total votes?

Wow.

You are the king of the trolls. Congrats on the single stupidest post I have read. I'm not saying either is anything, but did you miss AJ in the early 90's confronting fbi agents or handing out cassette tapes?
At least no one takes you seriously anyway.

The trollbots are gettin

The trollbots are gettin really annoying. Isn't there anything we can come up with to nix them?

Yes, I saw that.

Was a great laugh. Smart publicity stunt.

My favorite people in the world: Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, Peter Schiff, Judge Napolitano, Milton Friedman, Bob Barr, and John Stossel

It only took 20 years to work!

Are you software or flesh?

Ah I see...

You're one of those impressionable kids that think Alex Jones is for real. You'll grow up in time and realize he's not. Have a good day.

My favorite people in the world: Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, Peter Schiff, Judge Napolitano, Milton Friedman, Bob Barr, and John Stossel

Thank you

Your post is valuable. It allows us all to see the lunatics who lurk here. See the responses?

The only thing scarier than some of the conspiracy freaks who respond here is the fact that they vote themselves up like a swarm of locusts. And they're more than tolerated here; they're welcomed.

Hey wackos: there's nothing wrong with being skeptical. There's nothing wrong with not believing what the government tells you. But you have NO EVIDENCE that "9/11 was an inside job" and you're way out of line when you try to hijack this movement. Want to talk about nutty conspiracies? Do the movement a favor and take it to Alex Jones' website. Your activism here is a lead weight that drags this movement down.

Thanks for the Liberty and Sanity Here

Though, I wish you would examine the facts more closely. While Alex is a conspiracist, he's not a total fruitcake. The problem is some here just slavishly believe whatever he says.

While I could never call myself a "911 Truther", I have to look at it from "zero". Where is the proof, that 911 happened the way the government and media reported? Yes, hijackers flew planes into the two towers. After seeing the towers hit by the two planes, then everyone assumes naturally the impact and fuel from the planes brought them down. That's where we gotta stop and ask, where's the proof? Fact is much of the evidence was destroyed, but legally shouldn't have been. There's also been extensive independent research published at journalof911studies.com. I wonder if you've read it? If this independent scientific research is mistaken, where is the rebuttal to it?

I would support a new investigation with scientists leading it and making the final conclusions.

I say all this, but I can't support those who run around Ron Paul rallies pushing 911 truth. They do much more damage than support to Ron Paul's cause and their own cause of 911 truth. It's awful hard to understand why these 911 truthers would want to damage the causes they support? Maybe they could shed some light on why they campaign to hurt Ron Paul and the cause to find out what happened on 911?

All u have done since u joined DP is troll.

You can't be that ignorant. Run along kiddo, run along.

Denigration

Please stop denigrating others here. Just because they don't agree with you, doesn't mean they are a troll.

I would have to say, it's you who is the troll, since you make a baseless accusation attempting to degrade another person without any facts. So, stop your trolling here. Move along kiddo to your next site.

9-11 was an inside job

And software creates online personas. Yours is about to malfunction.

Definitely software Mike Lawson.

Definitely you are a software troll posing as ThGuy.

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Software or Personna Troll

It's you people who are denigrating others here who are actually personna software. There isn't any proof that the other person is a personna. It's much easier to go around posting over and over claiming the other person is software, than to post something intelligent. If you look at the length of the posts, those claiming others are personnas are making very short duplicative posts over and over claiming others aren't real people. While those they make this claim against, make much longer posts. So, you software troll, why don't you take your personna to another site?

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for those interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OXKhbk4iJ4&feature=player_em...

This is the video Jones posted with this same article on his site.. "The Glenn Beck Secret"

Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts

ℛ[ƎVO˩]ution
"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
‎"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."

Good one!

Good one!

Alex Jones on LEFT/Glenn Beck on RIGHT -Libertarian Gatekeepers

Alex Jones and Glenn Beck actually have a nice history of working together as GATEKEEPERS anytime the corporatist racket has a crisis maintaining the status quo.

This is exactly how these two teamed up indirectly (or directly) to take out Debra Medina's campaign / certain win in the Texas governors race when the establishment was facing a total loss.

Both are there to say extreme things over time to build credibility with their respective LEFT / RIGHT audiences.

Then ka'BAM... Alex Jones throws his LEFT LEANING 911 TRUTH supporters under the bus and Glenn Beck nudges his RIGHT LEANING crowd over the cliff; just as these two constituencies are about to share a candidate and have a major success in a key election... ka'BAM... these two gatekeeping shills pull the rugs out from under them all so to give the established racket the final victory.

These two loosers are there to build up but mostly to tear down liberty and support the corporatist / status quo racket when it really counts.

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Ultimate Conspiracy Theory

You're basically saying everything is a conspiracy. Well, your getting carried away. Neither Beck nor Alex are puppets of anyone. Where's the evidence either one doesn't believe what he says? Just claiming they don't isn't proof. While I can't agree with everything either one says your claims don't make much sense.

Alex does good research at times, but also does significant damage misleading people. It doesn't mean he's a puppet of the NWO, whoever that is? His mistakes are his own beliefs, which don't entirely synch with libertarianism.

As for Beck, he does make some contributions to liberty, but much of the time he gets wrapped up chasing down commies in the Obama Administration or supporting neoconism.

Just look at the bright side, the Judge is filling in for Beck this week. Some people here get so wrapped up in their own hatred of Beck of whoever, they can't see the light anymore. "WE" got the Judge and Stossel on Fox, so the Fox haters here can turn it down a notch, okay? Those evil neocons at Fox got two of our own on TV.

Funny how CNN, NBC and the others don't have any libertarians on at all. So, why don't all you attack dogs here relax for a minute and lay off Fox, the Kochs and Israel. Ron Paul doesn't attack anyone in the manner some do here.