Question always asked need answer - IRS jobs

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I'm always asked this question and I do not have a response except the matter that Ron Paul will create more jobs.

The question is - if RP gets rid of the IRS where will all the employees of the IRS go? What jobs will they get?

Any advice on how to answer this question is appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Tim Hibbard RP 2008!

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We will have enough jobs

not only for the former IRS employees in the private sector. As well as for our soldiers who spent half of their lives overseas. If needed be, we will re-train them for more productive, self-fulfiling jobs. Some will stay to protect the borders North and South. Others will become reservists if they wish. The manufacturing industry alone can probably support a sudden influx of manpower available. All the government's gotta do is give the business sectors incentives to keep the jobs here instead of outsourcing. We'll all be alright.

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

@vptimmy et al- IRS

Hi vptimmy and other canvassers- so what two or three line reply are we going to give to the question. It would be helpful to tie this up for other canvessorss to familiarise themselves with.

I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated.

'I always thank of all you canvassors and precinct leaders and delegates who were at the front line and caucuses.
Good luck out there &Thank you. You're a gift.

The best benefit of eliminating the IRS

There are 800,000 people employed in the tax and tax preparation industry. These are some of the most highly intelligent and educated people in our society. Imagine the good that would be done, imagine the wealth created if those people were employed in PRODUCTIVE jobs. Currently they spend their time complying with arbitrary laws. Imagine the benefit to small businesses if they had a shot at these people for a controller position, imagine the efficiency increase in our corporations. The release of talent, skills, and abilities into our country from removing this hideous agency would be a great benefit.

"The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! - Frédéric Bastiat

IRS Jobs

Acala is right. When Ron Paul said he 'would get rid of the iRS tommorrow' that was figuratively speaking-of course! It would take a while and there would be some kind of compensation I guess. If buisnesses kept more profit to reinvest in production to meet the growing demand for domestic products caused by extra spending power by folk who have more disposible income left - it would create meaningful employment for ex-IRS. Those same IRS workers would also see extra oportunity to go into being self employed. That is how it worked for hundreds of years before income tax was introduced to pay for war. Government jobs do not create wealth for the nation nor your neighbour. Period!

I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated.

'I always thank of all you canvassors and precinct leaders and delegates who were at the front line and caucuses.
Good luck out there &Thank you. You're a gift.

IRS people aren't all evil, they just do a job...

I've talked to many of them and they said that they wouldn't mind losing their job if it meant the end of the IRS. Many accounting firms are still needed in the private sector, and IRS collection agencies could simply go private to collect on past due loans. Banks are in need of educated staff too.

In other words, there will always be a job position for them available somewhere as there are always people out there getting loans they can not afford to pay.

Real jobs versus government jobs

You need to understand the difference between the way the government "creates" jobs and the way the free market creates jobs.

Government takes your money by force, through taxation, and then spends it on things that the government (and the special interests that control government) wants. This includes paying the salary of IRS agents. The reason taxpayers have to be forced to pay taxes is because they have other things they would rather spend their money on than those things which government wants to spend it on.

Every dollar the government takes in taxes is a dollar that would have been spent by the taxpayer on some other goods or services. (Or saved to create real capital). So government spending, on IRS salaries and elsewhere, eliminates jobs in the private sector that would have been needed to provide the goods and services taxpayers would have spent their money on had it not been taken by government.

So government spending never "creates" jobs. It merely relocates jobs from those which provide goods and services that the people want to jobs which provide those goods and services that government (and lobbyists) want. As a consequence, government spending diverts resources away from those economic activities that benefit the public at large to those that benefit special interests.

With that background, we can answer your question simply. People who lose their government jobs as a result of spending cuts and the elimination of government programs will find that the money that had been used to pay their salaries in government work will now be available to pay their salaries in the private sector. So they get jobs in a newly invigorated private sector, providing people with the goods and services they really want. And everyone is happier as a result.

Hopefully,

Those thieving son of a beaches will be in jail, where they belong. After the election, I believe stealing will be illegal again.

Realistically...

We're just wanting to cut income taxes. The IRS handles other taxes as well. I doubt anyone will lose jobs.

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I'm sure that they will find jobs...especially considering we'll be keeping 1-2 trillion of our own cash.

Department of Treasury

The federal government still must collect its dues which was formerly the work of the Department of Treasury. Once the Fed no longer has a monopoly on currency printing and we revert to Constitutional law, the job of printing our currency rests with the Treasury Department

other places

Where did all of the farmers go? Are they still unemployed, or did they move on to other jobs?

They will need to learn about the

Private Sector. There will be plenty of money to be made over there with Ron Paul as President!

Ask them?

I really don't think anyone but the IRS agents themselves can answer that. Personally, I could care less if they get put out of a job. The reason for this is because their "job" is to steal money from honest hardworking Americans, myself included. They deserve to be put out of a job.

“Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected”~ Mahatma Gandhi

They can pick up trash and bring it to stinky landfills for all

They can pick up trash and bring it to stinky landfills for all I care. They take peoples property and act like it is nothing,, they should get nothing in return. These people need a return to reality and I really do not care if they land hard or soft. Why should they be different than any of us who have to get jobs?

Maybe something productive....

IRS agent is a zero-sum type job. They may keep everyone honest, but they don't produce any product or service that is marketable.

Most of them are seasonal workers who will go back to some other mediocre job. The rest should have marketable skills accounting (or whatever) at productive companies. Arguing that the IRS should be maintained to preserve their jobs strikes me as completely asinine. Public works projects should produce something tangible.

If someone pushes the subject, tell them the IRS workers could always be retrained in bridge inspection and repair.

Many job options for them...

Maybe they can join the Armed Forces, I've heard there's a lot of positions that no one is applying for anymore. Collection agencies are always looking for people as well. There is (illegal) organized crime if all else fails, and they are already well trained for that job.

Foreclosures

They can take jobs in the banking industry, taking people's homes through foreclosure. The business is booming, and they are already well trained.

America is sick, call a doctor! Dr. Ron Paul.

ummmm

my landscaper got deported I will hire an out of work Auditor

No government has ever created

No government has ever created the first job. For every job created in the public sector, it is at a cost of 2 jobs in the private sector. If the government created jobs the remaining super power would be the USSR.

Force them...

to all live in a town with Huckabee as their mayor for the rest of their lives.
Just my opinion.

Creative destruction

Where does anyone go when their industry becomes obsolete? They go to work somewhere else where there's a high demand. They may have to get retrained for something else. Jobs are constantly being lost in our economy, but at the same time new jobs are constantly being created. If income tax is eliminated, think of how fast the economy will grow and all the new businesses that will arise needing workers.

I think that depends on the

I think that depends on the typical questions like, what are their backgrounds? I know if they are CPA's they would have an easy time finding a job all over the world because there is currently a shortage everywhere.

The govt cannot be held accountable for their well being especially if it looks like RP is going to get elected. Besides, if RP were to get elected, this would spark unprecedented growth in many areas through deregulation and the free market.

I wouldn't be that concerned....

Heres a fact about IRS employees

There the biggest group of losers My mother was a IRS worker she wasn't a loser loser but she is a goofball. Heres another fact IRs workers get paid decent money for doing next too nothing theres loads of social rejects ,Junkies no short of these working for the goverment you woder why post office workers go postal . It's the seasonal thing most are seasonal and lazy who work a few months athen sit home the rest of the year on unemployment and wealfare

Sweeping generalizations as

Sweeping generalizations as fact, gotta love it! I'm not fond of the IRS either, but to say most of them are lazy just seems biased and without merit. What is your sampling rate?

Do any of them vote?

Who would they vote for, if they thought voting for Ron Paul would cost them their jobs?

"I don't endorse anything they say"
~Ron Paul On the 911 Truth movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGyhlNY0y1k

If taxs are lowered making less money won't be as bad

People will have more money to save
We won't have all these parents working and people will retire early
People will spend more money creating more jobs

The definition of downsizing

Is that you actually downsize. Worrying about peoples' current jobs is not a reason to not do something that is PAINFULLY needed, and morally imperative to boot. What about all of those tax accountants too?! Oh noes!

I'm so concerned

They can pitch a lemonade stand, for all I care.

I'm thinking that when all the Illegal aliens leave

Due to RP's new policies, all the unemployed IRS workers will have more than enough jobs available at McDonalds and picking crops.

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What will happen to surplus ex-IRS employees .. not much

As a former Federal civil service employee with the US Treasury - Internal Revenue Service and now retired, let me try and answer this in this way.

All tenured IRS non-management employess are covered by a binding labor agreement between the National Treasury Employees Union (NTEU) and the Federal government. The major tenet of this agreement is that employees covered under the agreement 'DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO STRIKE'.

In return for giving up the 'Right To Strike', the NTEU has extracted from the Federal employer (yes, you the taxpayer) incredible (let me say this again, 'incredible') concessions with regard to job security and benefits.

I won't bore you with the details other than to say, 'Don't worry for one second what will happen to these people'. They will be taken care of, damn near in perpetuity, at your (the taxpayers) expense of course.

Ask Dr. Paul as I am sure he is well aware of the massive firewalls put up by union employees in the Federal government to protect themselves from the vagaries of the job market that non-government employees must cope with every day.

lwm