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What RIGHTS do you have?

Do you have "Civil Rights" or "Human Rights"?

    "A 'civil right' is a right given and protected by law, and a person's enjoyment thereof is regulated entirely by law that creates it." Nickell v. Rosenfield (1927), 255 P. 760

and

    "A 'civil right' is considered a right given and protected by law, and a person's enjoyment thereof is regulated entirely by the law that creates it."
    82 CA 369, 373, 255, P 760.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/civil+rights

    civil rights

    –plural noun ( often initial capital letters )
    1.
    rights to personal liberty established by the 13th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and certain Congressional acts, esp. as applied to an individual or a minority group.
    2.
    the rights to full legal, social, and economic equality extended to blacks.

vs.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/human+right

    human right

    -noun
    (law) any basic right or freedom to which all human beings are entitled and in whose exercise a government may not interfere (including rights to life and liberty as well as freedom of thought and expression and equality before the law)

Claim the wrong one, and the governments and courts don't have to recognize or protect it.

Only "Human Rights" are required to be recognized and protected by Government......here's the catch, "citizens of the United States" ONLY have "civil Rights", because being a "citizen of the United States" itself is a privilege...

    Status of citizenship of United States is privilege, and Congress is free to attach any preconditions to its attainment that it deems fit and proper. In re Thanner, D.C.Colo.1966, 253 F.Supp. 283. See, also, Boyd v. Nebraska, Neb.1892, 12 S.Ct. 375, 143 U.S. 162, 36 L.Ed. 103; Application of Bernasconi, D.C.Cal.1953, 113 F.Supp. 71; In re Martinez, D.C.Pa.1947, 73 F.Supp. 101; U.S. v. Morelli, D.C.Cal.1943, 55 F.Supp. 181; In re De Mayo, D.C.Mo.1938, 26 F.Supp. 696; State v. Boyd, 1892, 51 N.W. 602, 31 Neb. 682.

State Citizens, on the other hand, have Human Rights...

    "United States citizenship does not entitle citizens to rights and privileges of state citizenship."
    [K. Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236, 256 P. 545 (1927), 48 Supreme Court. 527.]

    "We might say that such regulations were unjust, tyrannical, unfit for the regulation of an intelligent state; but, if rights of a citizen are thereby violated, they are of that fundamental class, derived from his position as a citizen of the state, and not those limited rights belonging to him as a citizen of the United States; and such was the decision in Corfield v. Coryell."
    [The United States v. Susan B. Anthony (11 2nd. Jud. Cir.] 200, 1873)

    "The right to trial by jury in civil cases, guaranteed by the 7th Amendment…and the right to bear arms guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment…have been distinctly held not to be privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States guaranteed by the 14th Amendment…and in effect the same decision was made in respect of the guarantee against prosecution, except by indictment of a grand jury, contained in the 5th Amendment…and in respect of the right to be confronted with witnesses, contained in the 6th Amendment…it was held that the indictment, made indispensable by the 5th Amendment, and trial by jury guaranteed by the 6th Amendment, were not privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States, as those words were used in the 14th Amendment. We conclude, therefore, that the exemption from compulsory self-incrimination is not a privilege or immunity of National citizenship guaranteed by this clause of the 14th Amendment."
    [Twining v. New Jersey, 211 US 78, 98-99]

http://www.dailypaul.com/140903/why-us-citizens-arent-free



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The most important and powerful right ever;

Do not comply !!!!!!!!!!!!!it is so very simple

especial

I agree, sort of...

Swearing under penalty of perjury to comply, then not complying, will be a dangerous move...

However, not complying in the first place, is the way to go.

You only have

the rights that you can defend.

Because someone VIOLATES your

Because someone VIOLATES your rights does not mean that you do not have them.

On the other hand if you have SURRENDERED your rights, then you DO NOT have them.

If you kill me that does not mean that I had no right to live, it means that you have committed a crime that violated my right. Does that make me any more alive? No, certainly it doesn't, but it is nonetheless that you violated my right, despite my failure to defend that right.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

I would argue

one has rights based on their individuality.

These rights include the principles of property/agency/corporality/sovereignty/philosophy/spirituality

http://www.dailypaul.com/122408/draft-ideal-of-the-individual

Ideally, an ethical constitution would validate these rights

Someone that has rights, but

Someone that has rights, but lives in a place where they are not recognized, lives as if he has no rights at all...

In America, the People are SO FREE that they can give up their rights if they wish.

    That the general principle of such a right of electing, to
    remain under the old or to contract a new allegiance, was
    recognized, is apparent from the case of Com. v. Chapman, 1
    Dal., 53, and other cases cited. Those who adhered to the
    new government and transferred their allegiance thereto,
    became citizens of the same. All who were free, had this right of election, else they were not free. No particular color nor descent was required to confer this right of election. It resulted from freedom, and the necessity resting upon all to make an election. When it was made, and the individual determined to adhere to the new state, he was necessarily a member and a citizen of the same. He sustained the same relation to the new government by choice, which he had sustained to the old by birth.
    [Appleton concurring 44 Maine 528-529 (1859)]

This electing, aka, "volunteering" is supported by the 13th Amendment that ONLY makes "Involuntary" servitude unconstitutional. The Constitution is established for the Government to protect THOSE RIGHTS belonging to the People, not to protect the inferior rights that are granted to Federal citizens, that are not the "People" of the Constitution.

Also, with regard to this:

    Steward of Self
    MG1234
    Philadelphia, PA, USA
    22 January 2010

The use of the two letter "PA" means the Federal STATE, which is the political subdivision of the UNITED STATES...for example, a Military base in Pennsylvania would use the Address "PA" and the zip code. A non-federal address would be "Pennsylvania" OR "Penn."

http://www.usps.com/ncsc/lookups/abbr_state.txt

    State/Possession Abbreviation

    ALABAMA AL
    ALASKA AK
    AMERICAN SAMOA AS
    ARIZONA AZ
    ARKANSAS AR
    CALIFORNIA CA
    COLORADO CO
    CONNECTICUT CT
    DELAWARE DE
    DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA DC
    FEDERATED STATES OF MICRONESIA FM
    FLORIDA FL
    GEORGIA GA
    GUAM GU
    HAWAII HI
    IDAHO ID
    ILLINOIS IL
    INDIANA IN
    IOWA IA
    KANSAS KS
    KENTUCKY KY
    LOUISIANA LA
    MAINE ME
    MARSHALL ISLANDS MH
    MARYLAND MD
    MASSACHUSETTS MA
    MICHIGAN MI
    MINNESOTA MN
    MISSISSIPPI MS
    MISSOURI MO
    MONTANA MT
    NEBRASKA NE
    NEVADA NV
    NEW HAMPSHIRE NH
    NEW JERSEY NJ
    NEW MEXICO NM
    NEW YORK NY
    NORTH CAROLINA NC
    NORTH DAKOTA ND
    NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS MP
    OHIO OH
    OKLAHOMA OK
    OREGON OR
    PALAU PW
    PENNSYLVANIA PA
    PUERTO RICO PR
    RHODE ISLAND RI
    SOUTH CAROLINA SC
    SOUTH DAKOTA SD
    TENNESSEE TN
    TEXAS TX
    UTAH UT
    VERMONT VT
    VIRGIN ISLANDS VI
    VIRGINIA VA
    WASHINGTON WA
    WEST VIRGINIA WV
    WISCONSIN WI
    WYOMING WY

    Military "State" Abbreviation

    Armed Forces Africa AE
    Armed Forces Americas AA
    (except Canada)
    Armed Forces Canada AE
    Armed Forces Europe AE
    Armed Forces Middle East AE
    Armed Forces Pacific AP

The above are Federal "States" NOT states of the Union...there are parts of California that are the Federal STATE and parts that are the Republic State.

See Cal Rev and Tax code 6017 vs. 60017
http://law.onecle.com/california/taxation/6017.html
6017

    "In this State" or "in the State" means within the exterior
    limits of the State of California and includes all territory within
    these limits owned by or ceded to the United States of America.

http://law.onecle.com/california/taxation/60017.html
now 60017

    "In this state" or "in the state" means within the exterior
    limits of the State of California and includes all territory within
    these limits owned by or ceded to the United States.

NOTICE TWO THINGS...the capitalization of "S" in State, AND the last words of the code.

see these links for States that you never knew were "States"

I think these may help to establish that "State" aint always "State" as we think it is.

http://www.ded.uscourts.gov/JJF/Opinions/recent/Sep2007/07-4...

THE STATE OF WASHINGTON D.C. Defendant.

http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/icr/state/DC.html
Information Collections Rule Query Form
for the State of DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

http://www.benefits.gov/benefits/benefit-details/2047
General Program Requirements
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of the state of District of Columbia, pregnant, breastfeeding and postpartum woman, infant or child up to five years of age and: (1) are individually determined by a health professional to be at nutrition risk; and, (2) meet an income standard, or are determined automatically income eligible. A person who participates or has family members who participate in certain other benefit programs, such as the Food Stamp Program, Medicaid or Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, automatically meets the income eligibility requirement.

http://www.epa.gov/enviro/html/icr/state/PR.html
Information Collections Rule Query Form
for the State of PUERTO RICO

http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/puerto-rico-receive-mo...

"In addition to the more than $174 million announced today, the ARRA has provided $1,641,759,783 in funding through 10 different programs to the state of Puerto Rico. Prior to today’s announcement, Puerto Rico had received:"

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/Cong_Conf_Calls/Quick_Facts/PR...

For the State of Puerto Rico

http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/american-samoa-receive...

"In addition to the more than $14 million announced today, the ARRA has provided $38,947,627 in funding through 7 different programs to the state of American Samoa. Prior to today's announcement, American Samoa had received:"

http://www.nationalresourcedirectory.gov/benefits_and_compen...

Below are all resources found for the state of American Samoa. Some counties and cities within this state may have resources specific to that area. To see those available, please select from the drop down menu below.

http://oa.doleta.gov/list_by_occ.cfm?state=GU&strSt_Name=GUAM&countyCode=All&strOcc=REFRIGERATION%20MECH%20(Any%20Ind)

The following listing of registered program sponsors does not signify they are taking applications for apprenticeship or employment. Program sponsors determine individually when they will take applications.

Your search for
All Counties in the State of GUAM

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Weirder Still

They give you a citi zen ship. Which means a "man of the town vessel". It is a club member ship. So you get to be a Washington D.C. "resident". To keep in touch with you (while you are out of reach of the TSA gropers) they give you a Washington D.C. Address! What a privilege! U.S. citizenship is just a subscription only Postal Society under International Law. The DC. Mailing address looks like this: 3467 DUMBDUM DR FOOLEDYATOWN, NJ 35789. This is different than say: 132 Main Street Realtown, New Jersey, uSA. Two different Postal Societies, two totally different jurisdictions. You must be careful not to put USA or U.S. You should also use c/o or without predjudice non domestic until you can see the different Postal Societies. Court cases come down to which Postal Society you were in for the specific case. This the weirder still part. You are only a part time citizen. On your off hours you can remain in the private by doing such things as using dollar coins instead of company currency, and using the private side of the mail system. So you have two capacities (three really, another post on that) Public Capacity: you are on duty and must follow all regulations and orders of The United States. Private: you are off duty and need only uphold The Common Law. Perhaps Julius has something to elaborate? - The Oracle

Thank you

yes, you're right, it's all "word magic".

Freedom is not: doing everything you want to.
Freedom is: not having to do what you don't want to do.
~ Joyce Meyer

Bump, thanks for posting, Julius.

I always look forward to learning something from your posts.

Joη's picture

yes, but what have you done with it?

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"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

We're working on it,

slowly but surely. His posts help us sort out some "things".

Joη's picture

let me know when

your results are tangible, orders of magnitude more efficient than whatever you're doing now, and scalable for everyone to do.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

OK, Jon

I do feel our voting for our original jurisdiction governor was helpful. We'll have to wait to see, however.

lol

if we just keep learning stuff, one of these days something is bound to be applicable...

any day now