911 Truthers - *please read*

Here's mine...

This post was directed to 9/11 Truthers and probably would have slid off the most Active Forum Topics list if 9/11 Truth-Deniers would have refrained from bumping it up with their comments.

To the 9/11 Truth-Deniers. You have an interesting problem. You seem to recognize the lies and deceptions from the current and previous administrations but when it comes that horrible day you accept the 'official story' without question. You support Ron Paul because he calls for fairness and honesty but when it comes to what really happened that day you mentally shut down.

The truth about 9/11 is incredibly important. We do not know the exact truth or who the perps were. We do know, for an example of dozens, that several of the supposed hijackers are in fact STILL ALIVE yet the list of 19 has never been edited. Question after question after question remains to be answered more than 6 years later. All we want is justice and for that some of you treat us like we're from another planet.

All of us came to the revolution some way or another but you'd do well to recognize that we Truthers were among the earliest to join up. Alex Jones & truth-web/radio provided a tremendous spring board for the campaign. Some respect is due.

It wouldn't be the divisive issue it is here if the 9/11 Truth-Deniers would actually avail themselves of some of the research that's been done over the last 6 years.

A good place to start would be...

Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice
http://stj911.org/

Whether or not 911 was an inside job or an outside job is irrelevant, with regards to the campaign of Dr. Paul. The ONLY thing that is relevant is to get people to support Dr. Paul to the point where they would actually vote for him. The question is: How do we do that? The campaign NEEDS to be reaching out to the "average American" if he is to actually win. The fact of the matter is that the"average American" simply can not handle some of the truths out there. They simply can not believe that their own government would do such a thing and they NEVER WILL no matter what anyone says about it. Forget about logic and reason. The "average American" does not use logic and reason. They simply believe what the mainstream tells them to believe. Have you ever heard the saying "People only see what they want to see"? It's true. You have to give them things that they can actually accept if you want their vote and getting their vote is the ONLY thing that matters. If you want to inform people about 911, that's just fine. Go for it! However, making it part of the campaign will DESTROY THE CAMPAIGN and people WILL NOT vote for him. Ron Paul is our "Shepard" and we need to get the "Sheep" to follow him if he is to win. That's all that matters now.

If 9/11 was an inside job, then so be it.. I believe it was.. but regardless it's done and over with. It's already happened and you can't change it. I don't even care if Ron Paul or any other future president investigates it. That's not why I'm voting for Ron Paul.

I'm voting for Ron Paul because IF 9/11 was an inside job (among many other reasons I am voting for him), then I feel he is the only candidate I can trust to not do something similar to further the police state. And I feel that IF it was definitely an inside job... then the problem goes way above our own government.. We all know who has the power in this world and who pushes the agendas. Ron Paul has his sights on these power elites and he aims to cut the head off of the beast and remove their power over WE THE PEOPLE and our great country!

You can investigate any "conspiracies" all you want.. but that does very little to solve the problems. You have to go after the source and that's what I trust Ron Paul to do. End corruption. End the lust for power over WE THE PEOPLE.

So who really cares if 9/11 was an inside job or not.. we can't change the past if it was. All we can do is hope we elect a leader who will do their best to break this cycle of corruption and wrong doing by government agencies. If we accomplish that, then I'd say we are at less risk for any other 9/11's IF it was an inside job.

If you listen to the actual question Beck asked Dr. Paul about 9-11, It was specifically "were the planes flown by remote control" and " Do you think It was not a plane that hit the Pentagon"

He answered to those "specific questions" that it was absurd.

Any truther knows these and a few other points are ALWAYS used to discredit hard science in defense of truthers positions ie Architects and engineers hard evidence along with obvious problems in the official 9-11 story disassembled by "Loose Change" Whatever really happened on 9-11 will never be solved if Ron Paul loses so dont let them divide us.

“In the beginning of change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for it costs nothing to be a patriot.”

Mark Twain

My two forum posts, Ron Paul wins independent poll, and, Ron Paul wins Mormon poll, both had good verifiable links and both were quickly pulled by the gatekeeper here. If My contributions are not wanted here just tell me and dont waste any more of my time. I await an explaination.

Paul was not asked if a new investigation was needed . He has always stated that anew and independent investigation was needed.

What truthers fail to realize that to threaten Dr. Paul puts them in the catogory of a "SPECIAL INTEREST" group. Dr. Paul is for open government... nothing else needs to be said on the issue. So tell Alex Jones to shut up for once in his life.

Tim
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Couldn't agree more.

If Ron Paul were to say he was a truther - and he made it to the White House, what would happen if he ended being wrong and there actually ARE terrorists? You see, he HAS to say theirs terrorists, because of huge possibility that their are. Because otherwise if he said he was a truther then the terrorists can plot another attack while the President would pretend like this doesn't exist.

To the truthers: This is not the time to press your cause this is the time to get Dr Paul elected. Grow up and quit throwing a tantrum because everyone doesn't agree with you on something. I certainly think anythings possible especially when it comes to government. And the governments lack of forthcoming is certainly cause for suspicion.

However if you think Dr. Paul can right every wrong even before he is even elected you need to wake up.

If you think your issue is more important then restoring honesty and integrity to the presidency and beginning to turn the country around then you need to wake up.

If you think insisting that everyone acknowledging your views as valid first will help your cause then you need to wake up.

And if you think Dr. Paul acknowledging your cause as correct will help his campaign you need to wake up

What you don't seem to understand is that even though Dr. Paul doesn't agree with you he is an honest man and as someone said having him in office is more likely to get to the truth then you taking your ball and going home because everyone doesn't immediately agree with you.

So either way it doesn't matter to me we'll get it done with or without you!

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If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. Samuel Adams

Look folks! Roosevelt knew the japanese were going to attack pearl harbor... in the same way i'm sure the government knew something was going to happen on or around 911 but WHO FRIGGIN CARES.. LETS JUST GET THIS GREAT MAN ELECTED AND WORRY ABOUT THIS STUFF LATER.... Don't let the idots who rule this country and the world divide us! TIME TO UNITE!
GEESSOOOO PETE!
RON PAUL IN 08!

Here are my feelings .

911 was a crime .

The Ron Paul Revolution is about Our Nation .

Do not confuse the two .

Do NOT be ashamed of the 911 Truth Movement .

Just on a purely legal analysis of the situation ....

It took over 300 days to launch an official investigation of the biggest crime perpetrated on the American People ... and this over many objections .
The original 911 Truth Movement was formed by the victim's families .

The Taliban offered Osama Bin Laden to us . All they asked for was proof .
We didn't show them any .

Senators resigned from the Commission , citing fraud .....and since other Senators have gone on record saying they were lied to , there was too much censorship to properly investigate matters .... and there were many omissions of testimonies .

President Bush , and Vice President Cheney , would only offer testimony to the criminal investigation on many stipulations .... they had to be together in the room ..... no notes or recordings could be made .... and they would not be under oath .

This is just the tip of just purely legalistic matters .

Never be ashamed that someone would have questions about this crime .

Ron Paul was not completely silent about 911 . He mentioned an intelligence , and miltary infrastructue , that offered no defense ... and also mentioned "whistleblowers" from within the intelligence community who tried to come forth with testimony .

No real 911 Truth activist will cause strife to this campaign ... these people are planted infiltrators .
..... and here is my proof .

There is NO bigger 911 activists than those on GCN .... Alex Jones , , Officer Jack McLamb , Dr. Deagle , Pastor Butch .... the list goes on and on ....

.... to a man , they have not stopped flapping their gums about Ron Paul !

They never lost a beat , guys . These "posters" are in reality "posers" ..... black ops .

( smile ) .

If any 911 truther will not vote for Paul they want to live in tyranny, he is our best hope. Truthers have to give respect to more mainline Ron Paul supporters, and the mainline supporters need to respect the truthers. If we don't we will all be divided and not as strong.

I'm a truther, I was a truther before truthing was cool. But we gotsta keep it on the down low in reference to the Dr. I don't think he's lying when he says he doesn't believe in a conspiracy. Remember he did approve the Afghani war. No truther president can be elected. Ron Paul is our absolute best option. In fact, because Ron Paul would reverse many of the government actions taken in response to 9/11, I will forget about the whole thing as long as RP is elected in 2008. All that matters is that we move the country back in the right direction. Keep the truth movement alive brothers, but keep it separate from RP.
And why are we criticizing Beck, he going out on a hell of limb against his corporate masters to sing the praises of RP.

JT

I stopped believing the 911 fairy tale a few months ago. At the same time raising this issue now is not productive and will not get our hero into the Whitehouse. You know if we get Dr. Paul in the Whitehouse the whole concept of truth and accountability will be raised to the highest standard. Criminals will be held accountable for their crimes. Let's focus on winning the election. The 911 Truth message is awesome, God bless you all, but this won't win this election.

"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"

look I am a 911-truther and I am not in any way swayed from supporting RP.
The establishment brought that whole subject up to divide RP's supporters. Lets not fall into the trap. RP is about freedom, freedom to believe in what we want, now lets be done and respect that in each other.