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'Chernobyl Solution' for Fukushima is no solution

April 26, 1986: A reactor meltdown at the Chernobyl nuclear station spread radiation across Europe and thought to have killed more than 4,000 people while bringing the core of the runaway nuclear reactor under control. This 25 year old disaster is still not over neither for the Ukraine nor for the people who worked there.

'Chernobyl Solution' Could Be Last Resort for Japan Reactors
Published: Friday, 18 Mar 2011 | 8:41 AM ET

A "Chernobyl solution" may be the last resort for dealing with Japan's stricken nuclear plant, but burying it in sand and concrete is a messy fix that might leave part of the country as an off-limits radioactive sore for decades.

Japanese authorities say it is still too early to talk about long-term measures while cooling the plant's six reactors and associated fuel-storage pools, comes first.

"It's just not that easy," Murray Jennex, a professor at San Diego State University in California, said when asked about the so-called Chernobyl option for dealing with damaged reactors, named after the Ukrainian nuclear plant that exploded in 1986.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42147884

Ukraine's Chernobyl cleanup workers protest planned benefit cuts
Mar 17, 2011, 15:26 GMT

Kiev - Hundreds of Ukrainians involved in the cleanup of the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster on Wednesday protested the government's plans to cut to their social benefits.

More than 800 demonstrators gathered in front of the Cabinet of Ministers building in the Ukrainian capital Kiev to show their opposition to reductions or outright elimination of their benefits.

Some 700,000 people involved in the cleanup have the status of 'liquidator,' which gives them maximum monthly benefits equivalent to 250 dollars.

The government has proposed cutting the number of people with liquidator status by between one-third and one-half.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1...

Chernobyl shows Japan the difficult task ahead
25 years after Russia's disaster, experts are still working to entomb the deadly reactor that still releases radioactivity
By Bill Plante
March 18, 2011

A more permanent solution to entomb the Chernobyl reactor has been planned for years. It's a massive steel dome, taller than the Statue of Liberty and wider than the St. Louis Gateway Arch. Construction would take place at a distance because of the radiation, and then rolled into place section by section over the still deadly reactor.

But the dome hasn't yet begun to take shape. The U.S. and the European Union are still struggling to raise the $2 billion it will cost.

That still unfinished containment dome at Chernobyl is only projected to last 100 years. And Chernobyl, like the Japanese plant at Fukushima, will remain radioactive -- and deadly -- for thousands of years.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/18/eveningnews/main20...

Chernobyl Today (52 pics)
http://acidcow.com/pics/16330-chernobyl-today-52-pics.html




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Chernobyl today is a wonderful WILDLIFE PRESERVE

Robert J.Baker, Texas Tech University, Lubbock, Texas, USA:

http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/chornobyl/wildlifepreserve.htm

During recent visits to Chernobyl, we experienced numerous sightings of moose (Alces alces), roe deer (Capreol capreolus), Russian wild boar (Sus scrofa), foxes (Vulpes vulpes), river otter (Lutra canadensis), and rabbits (Lepus europaeus) within the 10-km exclusion zone. We observed none of those taxa except for a single rabbit outside the 30-km zone, although the time and extent of search in each region is comparable. The top carnivores, wolves and eagles, as well as the endangered black stork are more abundant in the 30-km zone than outside the area. Trapping of small rodents in the most radioactive area within the 10-km zone has yielded greater success rates than in uncontaminated areas [7]. Diversity of flowers and other plants in the highly radioactive regions is impressive and equals that observed in protected habitats outside the zone.

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Appreciated reading that. The diversity issue may have changed.

There's some really interesting stuff in here. The Chernobyl exclusion zone isn't one monolithic thing, Choi discovers. Some areas are already reasonably safe, while others are places that humans will probably never live again. Even the animal impacts are varied. The creatures that live here are thriving, and don't seem to be passing on genetic mutations. But, Choi points out, the species diversity has gone down significantly since the accident.

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/15/charles-chois-dispat.html

I think you source is unreliable

"where I started my trip, one normally receives 0.1 millionths of a sievert every hour."

The radiation level i Kiev, 0.1 microSievert/h, seams quite low. Here are some pictures of some real measurements:
http://www.fornalski.rootspoland.com/SeminariumIPJ_2010.pdf

I'll read them for you:

■ Warsaw 0.34 μSv/h
■ In Chernobyl closed zone 0.25 μSv/h
■ Outside Chernobyl reactor building 5 μSv/h
■ Guarapari (Brazil) 27 mSv/h
■ Ramsar (Iran) – 126 mSv/h

"Choi points out, the species diversity has gone down significantly since the accident." Well your source is disputed. More good news here (LQ source):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4923342.stm

ZONE DWELLERS
Reappeared: Lynx, eagle owl, great white egret, nesting swans, and possibly a bear
Introduced: European bison, Przewalski's horse
Booming mammals: Badger, beaver, boar, deer, elk, fox, hare, otter, raccoon dog, wolf
Booming birds: Aquatic warbler, azure tit, black grouse, black stork, crane, white-tailed eagle

Some video with cute cats and cuddly bears (with kids!) etc in Chernobyl. Don't know how much propaganda and indoctrination there is in this video yet, but it looks like the environment can take care of it self (like an adult):

Chernobyl - Life in the Dead Zone (1/5) HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVv1vsZxV00

Update: Now I have watched the videos, and it was much worse than i thought. Lots of scary animals there, and the single mother cat was evicted by an really scary wolf. Some other scary bears stole the pig that the wolf had chased down. There were also some scary snake eagles and nasty frogs. Fortunately the cat was able to find a new home in the end (after she had lost her kids (Chernobyl victims)) and the wolf got a wife witch I think was quite cute. Also lots of other strange animals there that I don't want to meet. I think I was wrong - Chernobyl seams like a really scary place. No thanks.

Who subsidized the study?

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Free includes debt-free!

I think it was U.S. Department of Energy

Or his University? Not sure - don't recall. Send him an email? I think he is a quite nice guy. At least he gave me a response when I asked him about something long time ago.

Do you have any comments to my post below?

I think Chernobyl is overblown

Some facts and estimated doses:

http://www.unscear.org/unscear/en/chernobyl.html

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Average effective doses to those persons most affected by the accident were assessed to be about 120 mSv for 530,000 recovery operation workers, 30 mSv for 115,000 evacuated persons and 9 mSv during the first two decades after the accident to those who continued to reside in contaminated areas.

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Of 600 workers present on the site during the early morning of 26 April 1986, 134 received high doses (0.8-16 Gy) and suffered from radiation sickness. Of these, 28 died in the first three months and another 19 died in 1987-2004 of various causes not necessarily associated with radiation exposure.
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Only way to get the body count up to 4000 is if you are able to make your self believe in the UN political decision that the response curve is linear and without any threshold.

Be aware of that no epidemiological studies have demonstrated adverse health effects in individuals exposed to small doses (less than 10 rem (100mSv)) delivered in a period of many years.

http://hps.org/documents/radiationrisk.pdf

Why do you have to use such Tabloid sources to make your (overblown) points?

Thank you Steve

Keep up the good work.
You are one of those activists that inspire me to work harder.

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