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Petition to have all genetically modified foods labeled as GMO

The National Health Federation has a petition up asking that all genetically modified foods be labeled as such. With no real tests as to the safety of these foods, it is only reasonable that they at least be labeled as such.


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Toxin from GM crops found in human blood: Study!!

Fresh doubts have arisen about the safety of genetically modified crops, with a new study reporting presence of Bt toxin, used widely in GM crops, in human blood for the first time.

Genetically modified crops include genes extracted from bacteria to make them resistant to pest attacks.

These genes make crops toxic to pests but are claimed to pose no danger to the environment and human health. Genetically modified brinjal, whose commercial release was stopped a year ago, has a toxin derived from a soil bacterium called Bacillus thuringiensis ( Bt).

Till now, scientists and multinational corporations promoting GM crops have maintained that Bt toxin poses no danger to human health as the protein breaks down in the human gut. But the presence of this toxin in human blood shows that this does not happen.

Scientists from the University of Sherbrooke, Canada, have detected the insecticidal protein, Cry1Ab, circulating in the blood of pregnant as well as non-pregnant women.

They have also detected the toxin in fetal blood, implying it could pass on to the next generation. The research paper has been peer-reviewed and accepted for publication in the journal Reproductive Toxicology. The study covered 30 pregnant women and 39 women who had come for tubectomy at the Centre Hospitalier Universitaire de Sherbrooke (CHUS) in Quebec.

None of them had worked or lived with a spouse working in contact with pesticides.


Great find!

Thanks. I have bookmarked it and will use it in my classes.


The lip of truth shall be established forever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment...Lying lips are abomination to the LORD: but they that deal truly are His delight. Prov 12:19,22

This should be a zero-tolerance issue....

When any entity/gov./personal/corp. etc... attemts to murder unsuspecting citizens, or at the very least sicken them with any harmful substance, they should be charged with Murderer or Attempted Murderer!

I cannnot express in words how evil any company/orgainzation is that produces these horrid toxins that are rapidly poisoning American population, and the human race as a whole!

Using the govt to solve a problem the govt creates is...

...not logical nor even possible.

The only solution to your desire to see GMO's go away is to use market pressure to entice producers away from that technology.

Or you can ask some violent group of people to use force to modify the behavior of others in a way you'd approve of.

One of the two solutions above makes sense and is consistent with the principles of liberty. The other is consistent with a belief that violating the rights of others to get your way is appropriate. Which would you rather be subjected to yourself?

Using government to solve

Using government to solve this problem won't work.

If you want to buy food at the supermarket that doesn't have GMO ingredients go to a natural food store or do your homework online to find out which products to avoid.

The more educated the food consumer becomes, the more natural foods will make their way into the mainstream.

Companies do what their customers want. If more people want natural non-GMO foods then companies will make natural non-GMO foods. Period.

Get the government out of my food.

The problem is that these GMO products are being forced

on us. GMO's are now in most processed foods but most people don't know because the manufacturers of these poisons have paid off the politicians who let them keep it off the the product labels. In spite of the fact that 90% want labeling of GMO'S.

There are so many problems with GMO's that......

They should not even be legal outside of a lab.....

I know it's a big leap, but what really needs to be done is to make the whole GMO thing illegal outside of experimentation in a lab.

This is the same situation we find in "audit the Fed vs. just shutting it down".

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Yes, lets solve a market based problem with VIOLENCE!

The 'situation' addressed by those calling for shutting down a quasi governmental organization that has it's product (the FRN) backed up by violence vs. auditing that quasi governmental agency is not even remotely comparible to calling for using force against those who produce goods for consumption on the open market to make them behave in a certain way.

If you don't like the products someone or some company produces, DON'T BUY THEM.

I know, that would be way too easy for everyone else and not require anyone other than YOU to do something about YOUR purchasing habits.

Hey none......

Do you know why you call yourself none?

Since you decided to start this off by addressing it the way you did back at ya.

Anyways, I have a very valid case for saying that GMO's should be illegal, other than what you've thought or implied.

Remember GMO's cross pollinate and can dangerously, permenantly damage the natural or God's food chain. THAT is no little matter. And then we have the honey bee thing also. You think theres no problems with that?

I'm talking about how to address this topic in this world and the way it works. If you're world should ever come then you can do it you're way.

The GMO genie needs to go back into its bottle and that bottle needs to be dropped in the deepest hole and filled over.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Here's the problem.

You feel that this particular matter, that matter being producers of food not providing you with the information you want, requires the use of force to address. What you neglect to recognize is that your argument that YOUR desires are sufficient enough to warrant a use of force to compel someone to behave a certain way is the exact same argument used by countless other parties to get the government to use force against others in the market.

My suggestion to you is that instead of calling for the government to use force against the producers you feel aren't providing you with the information you want YOU actually take it upon YOURSELF as YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to make YOUR purchasing decisions FOR YOURSELF.

I know, it's CRAZY to suggest that YOU actually do something about YOUR desires and YOUR responsibilities as a consumer instead of simply calling for some A-Hole politician to steal money from me and everyone else to fund enforcing yet more regulations on others at your behest for your percieved benefit, isn't it?

For the record, I'm not a fan of GMO's. I'm just trying to help you to realize that the appropriate method of achieving your desired result, nay, the ONLY method that'll acheive your desired result, would be a free market.

Stop abdicating your responsibility for your own actions in the market, and stop asking others to commit acts of violence so that you can get your way.

But we don't have a free market

when the GMO companies control the FDA, Labeling.

In fact Michael Taylor a Monsanto Lawyer went to work in the Government and wrote the rules for GMO's then went back to Monsanto as VP. They are controlling and we have to stand up against then in overwhelming numbers. Again, THEY ARE FORCING THESE FOODS ON US. Why don't you go watch a movie and eat some genetically modified pop corn with fake butter.

You're wrong.

You're wrong because it's YOU who make YOUR spending decisions. If YOU don't like a product or a producer for whatever reason, don't spend YOUR money on those products!

Otherwise, you get sucked into the game that is politics and government. It's a constant cycle of one interest weilding force against it's perceived enemies. The 'GMO companies' use government to protect themselves against lawsuits from damaged parties. The damaged parties call for government to protect them from the 'GMO companies'. And so on, and so on... when will people like YOU learn that the only way to stop it and thus start working towards a FREE market is to take RESPONSIBILITY for YOUR spending decisions?

No one is forcing food on you. Grow your own. Shop locally. Do the research. Stop being so damned lazy that the only solution you can possibly imagine is to have some government someone stuff a gun in the face of those not behaving as you'd wish. Stop abdicating your personal responsibility and asking mommy government to do something you ought to be doing for yourself.

And if you find this response offensive, try to imagine how offensive I find it when people like you ask someone else to steal from me to fund forcing others to behave as you want them to instead of taking responsibility for your own actions.

Why do you keep insinuating......

that I buy GMO's?

You claim to even know what kind of foods I buy and companies I support?


Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Flawed Premis......

Re: that matter being producers of food not providing you with the information you want.....

That's not it. I'm the one that says, "don't even bother with the labeling....."

Just ban growing it in areas where it has the chance of contamination other food and effecting the honey bees. If people want to grow and eat this stuff it should be done in an environment where it cannot affect the other natural foods. Hold these people to the same rigorus rules they're placing on the real farmers with real foods.

Make em grow in cost-prohibitive, confined areas and put these monopoly capitalist out of biz like their trying to do to everybody else.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

Ahh, I see.

I had you wrong. I thought you were interested in liberty. Apparently not.

Thanks for at least being honest about your desire to have other people steal for you to fund what you want, and your desire to use violence to control the actions of people in the market.

Re: Ah, I see.

If you see "liberty" why did you just state on the thread entitled, "I am angry and disappointed in the liberty community nationwide"

"I dislike that the word liberty has been co-opted to mean something that it does not. How can one be for liberty if what they seek is simply new rulers with new rules?"

Man quit while you're still even visible.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

You want to use violence to control others

You want government to do __X__. Government only has one tool to get anyone to do anything; force.

The mental gymnastics you must do to reconcile your desire for 'liberty' with your desire to use government against others has to be pretty staggering.

I'll quit when people like you stop believeing that you have some so called right to have someone else steal from me to fund forcing some other party to behave the way you'd approve of.

Bump for freedom!

Bump for freedom!

well said


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How about this instead?

How about instead of resorting to using violence via the force of 'government' to make anyone behave in any particular manner YOU take responsibility for your own purchasing decisions and only do business with merchants that you want to. If you choose to do business with merchants who won't tell you what you're buying and you're not comfortable with that, then why do you do business with them at all? Oh yeah, that's right, you've been taught that the proper 'solution' to every problem is to stuff a gun in someone's face via the government to make them obey or else.

I agree that any manufacturer of any product ought to be completely honest about their products. But the problem you perceive is in fact caused by the soultion you propose.

State action

This link will take you to a site where you can do something at the state level, where this belongs.


P.S. robbjerk please add this link to your post

UnderTeddy Roosevelt

Congress passed in 1906 The Pure Food And Drug Act.The law requires manufacturers to list all contents of drugs on lable on the container.Adulterated (unpure) foods were forbidden to be sold.


Canadian Firm Seeks US Approval for Non-Browning GM Apple


I wonder what other GM food is out there that "we're" not being told about. The reason I say this is I bought one of those apples, HERE IN PENNSYLVANIA, a few months ago. I like apples, plus I give my little dog apples in his food daily. Anyway, as soon as I cut it, I knew it wasn't "right". Apples, it's been my experience, immediately start to brown when cut. This THING, and I mean that literally, is sitting in my fridge yet, all these weeks later and has yet to turn brown. I won't eat it; I won't feed it to my dog. I am very po'd about it--I don't appreciate having my money wasted!! Also, I thought it took years, or at least longer than a few months to get approval. The above-article link is from November past...

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GMO corn for example has a DNA sequence from a fish that breaks down the herbicide known as Glyphosate. So you know when you are eating GMO corn, your corn in glyphosate free. When you eat non GMO corn, you have no idea what residue is left on it.

Because they are forcing us to eat their GMO's

They have got the FDA to prevent labeling so that we the consumers will not know what the ingredients are.
The FDA working to benefit the Corporate profits is preventing us from labeling the foods NON GMO. So you see that is why there has to be regulations the levels the plying field and gives consumer the ability to know what they are buying. The public demand is overwhelming but the FDA will not allow the Market demand that foods can be labeled NON GMO. Because they know that people will not buy the franken foods!


GMO's wipe out Natural Foods (literally)

The libertarian "no interference" argument is getting raised, but what isn't understood is that GMO's are literally TERMINATOR SEEDS.

If you plant GMO corn in a field that is upwind of natural corn fields, the GMO corn is designed to pollinate (contaminate) the natural corn and turn it into more GMO.

It's like parking a beat up Pinto next to your Mercedes turning your once valuable car into one more POS on wheels.

In that regard, GMO infringes upon your right to personal property (if you are an amateur or professional farmer).

A warning label is the VERY LEAST of things that must be done. Monsanto & Dupont are very powerful and so work on the Fed and State level will be difficult. Perhaps passing town and city ordinances requiring at least a generic warning outside all grocery stores and restaurants about GMO being sold in at local food establishments is a start.

http://naturalnews.com is a great source for GMO info.

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You're mistaken

If a neighboring crop is contaminating your property then you should have legal recourse. The proper solution is hardly to just label your property as contaminated and sanction the unjust damages. There are too many hippies and environmentalists in the libertarian party...not to lump you in but one should be urged to consider your premises.

Reality vs. Ideal

You should have legal recourse on a lot of things, BUT farmers have not be successful battling Monsanto in court. Instead some have resorted to burning down neighboring GMO fields when no one is looking.

There won't be anti-GMO legal success without an informed public to support seed protection in the courts, and labels will do that much faster than a few people gathering petition signatures outside a grocery store.

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If Monsanto seeds float to a neighboring farm then Monsanto will sue the other farmer. It does not matter if they win as the cost of defending will become to expensive to fight.


You are correct that this is how it should work,

but it does not. If a farmers field is contaminated by GM crops by pollination, they can be sued for patent infringement. Most farmers cannot afford to fight this in court, so they settle.

I agree that labeling is not the solution. Perhaps there should be regulations in place to protect the property rights of non-gm farmers and to hold the gm seed manufacturer liable for damage caused by them. Certainly the patent laws in this area need to be examined also.