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Can anyone recommend a book I could give to someone who doesn't think the Constitution is important anymore?

So after a severely lengthy political debate with one of my friends whom I have know for sometime growing up, but recently kept in contact with on facebook - We were debating the whole thing about Obama sending our military to Libya and I was pressing the issue that it was unconstitutional and the president did not follow the War Powers Resolution either. Basically it came out that he thinks it is ok since it "was not our war" (The U.N.s) and we are just helping our allies. But when I detailed EXACTLY what the constitution and the war powers say about entering into hostilities with other nations then his response was "If you think that we will live by that old constitution and every detail in their you have a lot to learn." and also "You think the constitution will be around for ever?" I expressed amazement in his statements especially since his wife is in the military. Well, I told him I was sending him some gifts in the mail and mailed him a pocket constitution and a "surprise" book (Ron Paul's The Revolution: A Manifesto) since it was the only other book I had that may be helpful reading for him. He said he will read anything I give him and I think he will as he is pretty open minded, but I am not sure if The Revolution: A Manifesto will be appropriate for him.

Does anyone else have any recommendations (possibly by other like minded authors) that state the case for our constitution?

(I am afraid of "Ron Paul"ing him to death I mention RP a lot and would like to find another similar viewpoint so he does not dismiss it immediately)

I would be more than happy to hear recommendations for books that intelligently detail the case for "libertarian views" - Thanks!

**EDIT - Thank you to everyone who made sincere suggestions for good books! I think this will help many others looking for good information as well. Unfortunately, it is also apparent that there are many here on the Daily Paul who don't really care about Ron Paul or the Constitution and are here to spread disinformation - FORTUNATELY, they are also easy to spot :)




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No Law of the Land?

Constitution is the Rule of Law. So he doesn't want rule of law?

He wants jungle rule?

Your friend is a rhino or gorilla?

BestRonPaulVideo, Totalitarianism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M#t=28m28s
BestVideo, Political Correctness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8pzG02oxU#t=19s
Bestbook, Totalitarianism, http://www.amazon.com/dp/0759672229

Dick and Jane??? I mean if

Dick and Jane??? I mean if you are that 'tarded, might as well start at the beginning!

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

1984

George Orwell.

5,000 Year Leap: The 28 Great Ideas That Changed the World

The author (who studied Constitutional law) identified 28 principles reflected within the Constitution; he goes through each one and explains what inspired it and why it's important. I'm in a book group reading it. We just read one or two principles each month. Last time was a nice write-up on the genius of our system of checks & balances. It became so apparent how far we've come from how it was intended to work.

"Peek Inside" to see Table of Contents/various chapters at http://www.amazon.com/5000-Year-Original-Authorized-Edition/...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

I second this one! It's a

I second this one! It's a really great book. I have read it approximately 3 times. The book is really matter of fact and to the point on everything. So those that don't have a lot of knowledge about the constitution will be able to understand it very easily.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeles

I would suggest the Citizens Rule Book

because it is a collection of writings from our Founders and the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. They come in packs 10, 20,30,50,and 100, so you can pass them out to people. The place to buy is at here. http://www.infowarsshop.com/Citizens-Rule-Book-10-Pack_p_82....

Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our Liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

This guy, The real deal ..... srs bsns 24/7

War is a Racket
by:Smedley Darlington Butler
http://www.amazon.com/War-Racket-Antiwar-Americas-Decorated/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

PDF: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

.... and down the wabbit hole we go. .. . .. . .. .

edit .... and any speech from this guy ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_August_Lindbergh

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make
violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy

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The Creature from Jekyll Island, G.Edward Griffin. The Shadows of Power, James Perloff

Oh Yeah!

Great idea!

My suggestions

"The Law" by Frederic Bastiat, also found online at http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

"The Proper Role of Government" by Ezra Taft Benson, found online at http://www.latterdayconservative.com/ezra-taft-benson/the-pr...

"Our Constitution: A Heavenly Banner" also by Ezra Taft Benson.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

I Recommend

finding the largest heaviest book you can and hit him over the head with it. That should solve the problem :)

Republicae's picture

That is a good

That is a good recommendation.

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

here:

here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpfjuj99xg4

send this video to every stinking commie democrat neo-con traitor you know!

the next step is they will

the next step is they will want to come to your house when they don't like you. He's an idiot and you should spend your time recruiting patriots.

I have friends who love to take opposite side in debate.

Others who seriously want to be convinced. Sometimes I can only plant seeds and leave it to the next guy/gal.

Free includes debt-free!

A man passionate about the Constitution

Part 1 0f 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s-zHrNPfkQ
Part 2 0f 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q35DoJroTYY
Part 3 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9fdSirNinQ

The 666 Bill became the Patriot Act

Free includes debt-free!

The Communist Manifesto...

The Communist Manifesto...

When Fascism goes to sleep, it checks under the bed for Ron Paul!

In theory, the Communist

In theory, the Communist Manifesto sounds pretty rosie. Everyone is gonna have full liberty under this ideal of democracy, where the People rule the government, not the government rule the people. On paper, it is quite appealing to many who bother to read it. It is in practice that it fails.. It fails because the Capitalist control it, and in time turn the "stones' (people)into "bread" (profit).

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

The stated goal was violent revolution.

The 10 Planks were the ten steps to tyranny that would bring on the violence over and over, helped out by the progressive do-gooders (intelegensia?).

So the do-gooders, in their ignorance, bring on the very oppression they think they are saving the oppressed from.

After everyone has beaten each other back to the pre-stone age in 500 years or so the Communist Utopia would appear.

I didn't find it appealing and 170 million died proving it was unworkable.

It's the demented dream of a masochist, nothing more, IMO.

Free includes debt-free!

I couldn't agree with you

I couldn't agree with you more. BUT, MANY who read it find it appealing. It the mid 1800's Marx's ideals were popular with many, and also with many who held offices in the United States, Abe Lincoln likely being one of the many. Its end goal is what appeals to many, the "utopian society" where everyone is equal, which is fact. In the Marxist society everyone is equally screwed, except those "useful idiots", as Lenin put it (rumored to have), who are in the higher ranks of "equality" and gain special privilege and wealth for themselves.

I'm no supporter of communism, quite the opposite. But the Communist manifesto is a piece of propaganda to PROMOTE communism. I don't genuinely see that it is a good book to recommend in SUPPORT OF the Constitution. But then, as you can read from my other post on this thread, I'm not a supporter of the Constitution, either.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

Constitution prohibits or does not permit the 10 Planks.

It is probably why progressives on the right and left think the Constitution quaint and obsolete. They have a new plan: Global feudalism as enumerated in the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto. The central planners get the stick so they can take away our carrot.

The Constitution, except the 14th, 16th and 17th amendments is an antidote to the tyrannies proposed by Marx more than half a century later. A laudable accomplishment achieved by studying the past to prepare for the future yet written by men.

First stop? Restore the Constitution. If we can accomplish that, the next generation can have a chance.

Free includes debt-free!

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A very good, easy book is The

A very good, easy book is The Founding Fathers Guide to the Constitution by Brion McClanahan.

Books that are far more deep on Constitutional Principles and the construction of government include:

*An Inquiry Into the Principles and Policy of the Government of the United States by John Taylor

*Constitution Construed and Constitutions Vindicated by John Taylor

*New Views of The Constitution of the United States by John Taylor

*Tyranny Unmasked by John Taylor

*A Disquisition on Government by John C. Calhoun

*A Discourse on the Constitution and Government of the United States by John C. Calhoun

As background on the Principles upon which our Constitution was constructed I would recommend two books that were written in the 1600s:

*Two Books of the Elements of Universal Jurisprudence by Samuel Pufendorf

*The Law of Nations by Emer de Vattel

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Mises, Hayek, Communist Manifesto, etc...

Is all too heavy reading for someone who cant budge mentally in basic conversation. Just give him Ross' Unintended Consequences and that should be enough to make one start to "think". It has enough "story" to keep one interested, but also enough real world examples of what happens to society as freedom is eroded. Its "gun culture" for sure, but the overall narrative speaks to a larger scope of mind.

Atlas Shrugged is good, but it can be construed as so far from reality that it is easily dismissed by people who cant think and who will always say "yeah, but that wont/doesnt happen here", Or "thats not the reality of things"....

Hummm, Sounds Like he Takes his Rights for Granted...

When I get this innane arguement I ususally remind them of RIGHTS, that they actually really, really like, that they take for granted, that are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, that's part of the Constitution too. Just throw these at them...

1st: Right to free speech,freedom of the press, assembly, to petition the government for redress of grievences.(Who needs that, right?)

2nd. Militia and the right to keep an bear arms (not important either, right, just ask Hitler, Stalin and Mao how well gun control works, I mean it really worked well for them.)

4th. Privacy in your effect and papers and illegal search and seizures without probable cause and a warrant. (Who care about that? right? If you're suspected you probably did it and deserve an armed raid by the cops.)

5th. No person shall be deprived of Life, Liberty or property without due process of law, nor shall their property be taken away for public use without compenstation. (Who cares if we get a trail or the government confiscates our property, or the President decides to assassinates you (ask Alawaki's and his 16 yr old son if this is important, oh you can't they were assassinated by the President without a trail, but that's OK, they must have been bad guys if the President fingered them, but we will never know if they were guilty becuase there was no trial. The President would never do that to American citizens, oh wait, they were American citizens..oh well what ever!)

6th. Right to a speedy trail, with a lawyer to defend you, and an impartial jury and witnesses...(Like the 5th. who cares about trials anymore? The government is good and benevolent and always RIGHT. If you are suspected they should just throw you in the slammer, becuase you must have done it if they suspected you and you were were arrested, right??? the police and the government never make mistakes, they know whats best!)

7th. It' just about juries, you know, after that arrest you deserved, but we already established that trials and juries are not necessary becuase the government is always right!

8th. Not important...seeing as we have eliminated the above rights so it no longer pertains....

I could go on, the 10th...but, must I continue?

Oh! wait seems like we have already virturally eliminated the Constitution (we still have a shred of the second left) I can hardly wait for you to realize that you are only dreaming you have rights in this country anymore for they are GONE...you got your wish, enjoy your servitude...personally I'll die trying to restore them.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

How about "The Communist Manifesto"...cuz that's what we

are headed for...after that a few copies of people in Tienamin Square with their bloody bodies....showing what they can look forward to...

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

Reading and understanding the

Reading and understanding the Constitution would be a good start. Most people who argue against it haven't even read it. Basing their opinion entirely on hear-say and others subjective views. Ask him to read the constitution with as little preconceived notions, then discuss it afterward. Then you can expound on the significance, logic and reasoning behind it all. They have him read the amendments, and then take a break. Too much reading.

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We have indeed entered a new regime...

This...

Made me cry a little inside.... Is America that far gone?

sigh

Guess I better start reading the dates on these things.

Nlaw