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Joe Biden: War Without Congressional Authorization Should Warrant IMPEACHMENT

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"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

~Senator Barack Obama
December 20, 2007

They can't claim they didn't know.

UPDATE: Constitutional firestorm over Libya war and Biden's past impeachment words greet returning Obama:

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That is TOO funny!!! LOL

The video clips you Ron Pauler's come up with. I just can't believe it!! Just amazing. Congrats. Guess Biden is going to have to eat his words, huh...LOL

screw impeachment

let's convict him.
and to reach out to the "progressitarians",
let's also convict W.
an act of good faith to the rest of the world.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

come on now

impeachment is the trial in which he would be convicted, I don't even know what you're suggesting.

What's more important than freedom?

Actually, impeachment doesn't convict

Impeachment is just a decision by the House to bring charges against him. If they charge him, it goes to the Senate for trial.

Yes, impeachment is rather

Yes, impeachment is rather toothless. It's less than a slap on the wrist.


For bringing this back! Can't believe this thread only got 104 posts, then it got dropped.....

Geeze, this is just one topic that needs to be hammered everyday by everybody until there is removal. We could have gained a tremendous amount of ground on many things, many times, IF we just stuck with it.

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks


but that only guarantees removal from office.
i would prefer to see war crime proceedings.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

not quite

an impeachment trial does not guarantee removal from office, removal and being barred from any other public office is just the worst thing they can do.

He broke the law so he should be removed from office. We don't have to lynch him, just get him out of office so we don't have another war-monger on our hands.

What's more important than freedom?

assuming he's found guilty

we are only guaranteed removal from office. there's a few too many corpses for that to be a sufficient punishment.

i am not suggesting they be lynched. angry mobs lynch.
the court hangs.

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul


Bump...congrats radiofriendly!

Ron Paul 2012 - Shock the World

Not a bad slogan, I think. not intended to be on topic . .

It's the responsibility of the house to impeach.....

and the responsibility of the people to tell their reps that they want impeachment.

Here is a copy of the letter I sent to my house rep, everybody should send similar letters.

"Recently our president has gone beyond his station to initiate a war without congressional approval. The rule of law provides that no person is above the law, the supreme law of our land specifically dictates that only congress has the power to declare war. Similar actions of former presidents do not change the fact that congressional approval is required. Calling a war anything other than a war is not only silly but is downright fraud for the purposes of pursuing illegal action. To remedy this travesty of our law it falls on the House to initiate impeachment proceedings not only against Barack Obama, but also against Robert Gates and any Combatant Commanders that went along with this criminal action. Impeach everyone involved and let the senate figure out who is guilty and what actions need to be taken. As my representative I demand that you represent me and enforce our law within the government."

What's more important than freedom?

I called Sen. Ben Nelson's Office in DC

to express my concerns with the action in Libya.
And the concerns about the 2,200 Marines being sent to Libya.
OMG...the aide that answered the phone barely let me
get out of my mouth my concerns and started bomb barding me
with why it was the thing to do. Every time I attempted to explain what my concerns where he cut me off again.
He tried to say we where just enforcing a no fly zone and not bombing any parts of Libya. I asked him then who was ?
He mentioned France...I was like
And what about the missiles being fired off our ships ?
His reply: yes, but they are not technically bombs
and we are just disabling their military installations.
I guess the palace is considered a military installation.
It went back and forth getting into the war powers act
and why Obama was correct in his actions.

It was weird because all the years of calling any representative's office in DC and I have been doing it for over 20 years I have never had a response like this where they wouldn't even listen to my concerns. Usually it is always thank you for calling and I will pass on your concerns or they may explain the stance of the senator or representative. But this guy was defensive and on the attack. They must be getting allot of calls.

I've been watching Sen. Nelson's record for awhile now

IMO, he's corrupt and worthless.


....a President during Martial Law? The Constitution has been laid aside, which is how they keep getting away with this stuff! Unless I mis-understood somewhere, ever since Lincoln.....right? Crying about UNCONSTITUTIONAL is ineffective at this juncture, it is not in play.....the President clearly has the power at this time. They wont Impeach because they would have to make this well known!

Don't believe everything you think -

Correct There is No Congress

Congress can't impeach the President because Americans haven't elected a Congress since 1860.

The feudal election for U.S. Government is held on a different day than the election for Congress.

Nobody shows up on election day every spring to elect a United States Congress so U.S. Government (the Washington D.C. Municipal corporation) just keeps occupying The Capitol building.

Of course there is no Republic President either, just The Local Washington D.C. Municipal Corporation has a President. Technically Obama is The Mayor of D.C. That's why The White House has a federal corporation address different from The Postal Location for the Republic's Executive Mansion. Obama is the occupant of The Oval office, not the actual President. Why do you think the berth certificate doesn't matter, U.S. Government is a foreign Corporation Registered in City of London in 1871. Good heavens the queens desk is in The Oval office, can it be anymore obvious?

Wakey, wakey sleepy heads. There is no Lawful government in America, just English Bankster pirates. And people wonder why they act like Pirates? They are pirates! Even says so in title 28 U.S.Code (pirate code).

The Oracle

Considering this Oracle, then

how do we cure this situation? How do we wake the masses and 'show up' for the Spring vote? I have felt helpless since about the age of 12 when the public school system and all the rest of the political folly showed me the reality.............and it has only become scarier in over 30 years since. I have 'checked-out' of the battle in a physical sense to protect my freedom, but I still don't feel free. I know my family and friends and fellow Americans are ENSLAVED, yet I feel powerless to affect any change. This is the exact ailment that pervades the American consciousness. I remain hopeful that I can find a cure with the help of others who started before me.

Don't believe everything you think -

Don't Believe Anything You Think, go With Your Gut

I don't think we can reinhabit The Republics enmasse. Only one vote is required to elect any one of the 50,000 Congressional representatives. So you can elect yourself on Your Republic's Election Day and go take your seat in Congress. Just put a boot in the face of any impostor who gives you crap over Your Seat in the halls of power. Simple enough? Get a hundred people to elect you. Get a hundred people x 50,000 vacant seats to elect a De Jure Congress. This is what end the Fed is all about, ending the U.S. Government. It would restore The Independent United States Government which stood from 1774 to March 1861 when Congress walked out. The Federal Reserve Act was actually backdated to 1871 because The Bank of England was already here then.
Independent Government would still not be separate from The British Crown Corporation, just Independent like it was from 1774 to 1861.
Have you read all my dribble on DP?
Please go through all that I have downloaded from my brain and then tell me which way you want to attack this problem. There are lots of roads to victory and we don't all need to take the same road because all roads lead to Rome. We shall all arrive in the sewers, in the air, and at the gates together. I am partial to the sewers, look for me there.

By the way it happened to me on the bus ride home one day in fourth grade. I remember the moment well when I realized the whole world was a lie.
Check out my other comments on DP, if you would please, so I don't have to repeat everything every day. I have already placed the answers to practically every conflict with The Matrix in writing on this forum. Any other questions you might have about growin' tomatoes or whatever your heart desires can be answered here too! This forum rocks with empowered people!

For any Questions I have not already answered in my FAQ's please privately consult....

The Oracle

If He Were Smart

He would resign and then use it to his advantage by running against Obama in 2012. At least he would "appear" to be a man of principle.

Those crooks in congress...

probably are not going to impeach Obombya. If there is any good that may come from yet "another slap in the face" to the American people is that Bawhacco is not going to be re-elected making it much easier for the next guy (Ron) to oust him. I think even the sheeple have had enough of this guy.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

At a minimum Biden should resign

The fact he won't just goes to show he's power crazy.

Can We Just Be Done With It Already....

and impeach the whole U.S. Government from Geitner right down to that predatory U.S. cop on my block?
Why keep screwing around?
Anybody with me?
Want a real change?

The Oracle

Can We Just Be Done With It Already....

Need I repeat myself?

I don't see how...

without a "French Revolution."

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

Just Opt Out

of U.S. Government. It is a subscription service, so terminate your service just like you would do with any other malfunctioning corporation.

The Oracle

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opting out?

how is that done?I read everything i can
but mostly it seems i spin my wheels and waste
precious time.the words you use make alot of sense
and at the same time raise more questions
thank you

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

All Roads Lead Out of Rome

Ok, so you are a slave in the Roman Coliseum about to get eaten by a Lion. How you got in this predicament is not so important at this juncture because you need to save your hiny from the lion.
Since all roads lead into Rome it would make sense all roads lead out of Rome, if just for a moment you were to look away from the politics, Sports, Wars, Depressions that are put on by The Romans to keep you looking into the center of Rome for answers. There are no answers there. The answer is to turn around and leave.
Watch The Movie Inception to help get your bearings.
There are several governments within the "The Government" Aristotle explained how change within the firms of government so that the ancient laws would remain but not apply to anyone anymore.
Nothing new here it turns out. U.S. Government is currently the lowest level in the nightmare, Rome still sits at the top as the highest Dream level (I think, there could be more).

Juliusbragg blew up his U.S. citizenship and sunk the vessel. If you decide you want to do that he can help.
There is also title 18 from 1868 you can use.
There is also commercial redemption whereby you claim the vessel JOHN H. SMITH that your parents set up under the guise of old age benefits. It was in fact a different citizen ship.
I chose that route, riceowlex did too from the looks of his post yesterday (look it up)
Or you can go full tort claim like the Declaration of Independence and form your own internationally recognized Nation. You will want to get a couple dozen like minded people together to form your new Society. Choose wisely.
So which road out of Rome would you like to explore first?

The Oracle

Do you have a more specific prescription?

Your prose is a little above my head...

"Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won,whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory." --- Sun Tzu, The Art of War.


First Make Yourself Invincible, Then Seek Battle

A competent general may know how to win but may not necessarily be able to...
Memorized Art of War about fifteen years ago.

I took the commercial redemption road out of the Empire. It still allows you to trade with them. Officially all Americans outside D.C. are The Enemy. See trading with the enemy act 1933.
So I can trade at the edge of the fleet of U.S. citizens without being "of" them. This is explained in The Bible in the instructions for how to get along with the Babylonians without becoming "of" them.
So you can claim your citizen ship (vessel) JOHN H.DOE and make it a privateer vessel. Then you are your own captain and can pirate the pirates so to speak, engage in commerce they call it.
Since you are The Sovran on the land and The Pirates come from the sea your Law is supreme on the Land and they will shrink away once you know who you are. See the post by riceowlex from yesterday on what happened when he entered a 500 million dollar bond into a STATE OF TEXAS court.
I would suggest you take a look at Winston Shrout's videos "You Own a Bond" and "Declaratory Judgement". These are standard commerce 101. Should open your eyes a bit. Won't do you any good unless you study up on all the material and know how to use it. The purpose of holding you hostage in the re-education camp for 13 years was to make sure you never learned anything, especially that you didn't read The Bible! Or God forbid learn any of the other foundations of Law and commerce.
So you have to start out facing the fact you know absolutely nothing about the real world because you were raised to be a slave. Sorry to be the one to break it to you.
Start with Winston's stuff and if you need more road signs feel free to contact me. I could give you the index to The Matrix but most people just loose it and sit down and cry, so I stopped with that for beginners. You have been lied to big time. Everything is a lie that you see in the world around you except the people. They are real, well, most of them!

The Oracle