Lawrence O'Donnell attacks Rand for 3rd time this week saying he voted for military action in Libya
Submitted by ron_paul_is_awesome on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 22:01in
Here is from tonight's show:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#42385868
Here is the two segments earlier this week:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#42350498
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/#42330991
I don't really know what to make of this yet. Just posting so you guys are aware of it. Lawrence is an ignorant slimeball though so I don't really put too much faith in what he says.
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A Sign of Desperation?
O'Donnell must need ratings pretty bad. Maybe his show is close to being pulled off the air. Ignore the twit.
That's what I thought, at first,
and you could be 100% right, but I really think there is something deeper and nastier going on.
If this is how MSM is going to treat Sen. Paul then it needs to be dealt with now. If someone on FOX behaved as he did, MSNBC would be jumping all over them.
h-daddy
Obama's Non-Transparent War on Libya
How the most transparent administration in history gets a transparent congressional debate on war in Libya
"Pretty tame stuff, and completely non-binding, which is probably why it passed by unanimous consent on March 1, without debate or the presence of very many senators. Except, it didn’t pass as it was teed up. I’m told that unbeknownst (and certainly unnoticed) by most senators was a paragraph the principal sponsor, New Jersey Democrat Bob Menendez, tucked into the final version. It declares that the Senate “urges the United Nations Security Council to take such further action as may be necessary to protect civilians in Libya from attack, including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/263702/how-most-transpa...
Rand Paul 2016 for Peace
Great info, thanks!
I went ahead and made a new thread for it.
http://dailypaul.com/161073/no-fly-zone-language-was-slipped...
From a link below
1. Senate Resolution 85 is non-binding; it DOES NOT have the force of law.
2. It was passed in less than a minute after introduction, with no debate, and only the title about “condemning human rights violations” was read outloud. Here is the transcript:
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Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the Senate proceed to the immediate consideration of S. Res. 85, which was introduced earlier today.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the resolution by title.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A resolution (S. Res. 85) strongly condemning the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya, including violent attacks on protesters demanding democratic reforms, and for other purposes.
There being no objection, the Senate proceeded to consider the resolution.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask the resolution be agreed to, the preamble be agreed to, the motions to reconsider be laid upon the table, with no intervening action or debate, and any statements be printed in the Record.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The resolution (S. Res. 85) was agreed to.
The preamble was agreed to.
There was no vote in Congress authorizing our military action in a foreign country. Please read the Constitution. If you are required to obey laws, our country must also live up to its end of the bargain and obey its rules.
Rand never voted for ‘resolution 85’. It was passed on motion ‘without objection’ before Rand could even get back to the floor, wasn’t even read, so no one knew what was in it, and was explained away as ‘nonbinding’. Check out the Congressional Record, only the TITLE mentioning NO military action was read, even, before it was deemed passed. Wonder why they did it like that? Maybe because Rand Paul had been the only one to object to extending the Patriot Act for three years ‘by unanimous consent’ the same way? What sort of ‘representative government’ is this?
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A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
~Mahatma Gandhi
There is something incredibly
incidious about this screed. Am I the only one who thinks so?
MSNBC needs to be called out and forced to explain what is going on. MSNBC is always crying about how FOX lacks credibility and then they go and have this crap on their network. I hope FOX and others call them out on it. A simple dissection of this rant, line by line, image by image, would clearly show its bias, innaccuracy, and unnecessary nastiness.
Any opinions?
h-daddy
Lawrence of Enslaveia
He is speaking vile things. He is a man of ignorance.
Gossip is the resource of the idle and vicious.
donvino
One can only imagine how unhinged O'Donnell would get
if Rand were to direct attention to the Council on Foreign Relations as the originator of the globalist agenda targeting Libya.
If Rand could make the CFR as much a household word as Ron has made the Federal Reserve, great progress would be made.
Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas
"The Constitution is not neutral.
It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."
to be fair...
Richard Haas has spoke out against the Afghanistan war (didn't he attend an event w/ Ron Paul?) & the Libyan intervention. Obviously he's still an interventionist and may have some ulterior motive.
From CNN end of March-
"...speaking personally, I don't think the US interests at stake are vital, they're not nearly the most important interests the United States has in the greater middle east..."
The New World Order with CFR President Richard Haas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAW3OwoQTYY
Read this article before you cut Haas any slack:
State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/...
I really doubt
that anyone takes Lawrence O'Donnell seriously.
Nor most of the other MSNBC idiots.
These mainstream media liars are going to be REALLY
sorry when the world comes crashing down on them. I don't think the angry mob will treat them any more delicately than than they will treat the bankers and public officials.
O'Donnell is "minor stream" media
Who cares what he says?
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first against the wall when
first against the wall when the revolution comes!
get this violent shit off the
get this violent shit off the dp.
adam t
That screed was so full of errors
I can't imagine that anything less than a public apology should be next. Totally messed up. As bad as FOX at twisitng the truth. If I were running that organization O'Donnell would have some explaining to do.
h-daddy
Here is more on this "unanimous consent" procedure
from Tom Coburn:
http://www.conservative.org/secret-spending/3357/
Explained: What is Unanimous Consent in the Senate with video
Explained: What is Unanimous Consent in the Senate and the Rand attack piece?
http://www.dailypaul.com/160981/what-is-unanimous-consent-in...
This is interesting...
Apparently this "unamimous consent" procedure does not necessarily require any consent at all from a senator. For example, if you are not in your office when they call to ask for your consent, then you consent by default! That's just wonderful, isn't it?
http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/01/tina-ko...
I don't if that's what specifically happened to Rand, but it sounds like there is all kinds of loopholes and tricks that can be played. Here is another example from the article of how this process is abused.
Well, did Rand actually vote for it???
Or is this a trick or lie from O'Donnell?
Did Rand get tricked on this?
I am confused as to the truth on this.
SOMEONE is lying.
"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul
look the liberal base doesn't care..
their msm just represents their consumer base.. they don't care. most likely they would be saying "whatever, he deserved it anyway". every method has been pretty much exhausted to enlighten the left.. i'm afraid the rest is simply our enemy. no other way to put it.
Elisabeth - March 31, 2011 | 7:15 pm · Link
So I guess Paul’s been running around the halls of Congress demanding a (re)vote? Oh wait…Carl Levin’s the one pushing it.
Sorry, John, Rand Paul is likely against the no-fly zone but he’s hardly been at the forefront of demanding Congressional action.
General Stuck - March 31, 2011 | 7:17 pm · Link
I don’t see the big deal, though i didn’t watch O’donnell’s clip, or all the way to the end. I never thought it was binding and was done before the UN res. It was a “sense of the senate” res and it WAS passed by unanamyous consent, and Paul could have with held his consent, or objected. These things are never passed without all members agreeing not to object beforehand. If O’donnell said in his remarks in the clip that it was anything other than that, then he was wrong. But you didn’t say that in your thread post.
there you have it.. type of comments libs say. so i guess worshiping aqua budhha can justify outright lies about him too, as long as someone finds it objectionable. something was done that is wrong by an objective measure can now be replaced with a subjective observation someone else makes about him, justifying the misdeed against him retroactively.
keep cozying up to the rest of them hardcore left staying left even after being educated as much as libertarians could possibly try. pretty soon you'll be an enemy too.
MSNBC is relentless with
MSNBC is relentless with their attacks on Rand Paul. I wonder if this smoking mirror tirade is a reaction to Rand's attempt to roast MSNBC or at least Rachael Maddow at the recently held Press Dinner. Rand needs to come out swinging on this one and expose the media for its attempt at political "hacking". He also needs to expose how this unanimous consent thing works because often times I've heard the expression and know that Ron Paul objects strongly as a opposition to some of these bills that are reported as "Unanimous Consent". Not for one minute do I doubt the sincerity of Rand Paul and what he's trying to do in Washington...but I do question the ethical intent and motives of MSNBC
First, They Laugh At You
Then, they attack you.
Then, you win.
What do you think? http://consequeries.com/
I came across a video
from last year of Jim DeMint talking about bills passed under "unaminous consent", it's pretty interesting. It sounds like they pull a lot shenanigans when they use this "unanimous consent" procedure.
http://dailypaul.com/136576/demint-over-90-of-bills-passed-s...
How relevant. Thank you for
How relevant. Thank you for your posting. Maybe this will be a good thing to bring to light the nonsense and intentional deceits that dominate the gov't. which reflects total contempt and disdain for an appropriate process of gov't.
IT'S OBAMA'S RESOLUTION!!!!
At the 14 second mark of the first video, O'Donnell posts the resolution that Senators Lee and Paul are introducing. O'Donnell fails to mention that the resolution is a word for word quote of Senator Obama. How disingenuous can this guy be to not mention that fact to his audience?
O'Donnell Is A Hack For the Banks
O'Donnell, the ex-Chf of Staff Senate Financial Services is a hack for the banking overlords.
From the Vid - Really? All that drama for some "perceived" strawdog phony hypocrisy committed by Rand Paul? His acting skills are pitiful.
He also had a near-seizure the night Rand Paul was elected, recognizing Paul for the threat he is, to O'Donnell's Global Feudalist masters, as both a Senator, and likely strong Presidential candidate.
O'Donnell is on a pre-emptive attack course against Rand Paul, to derail a return to sound money, individual freedom, and a possible Prez candidacy. He knows Paul is a formidable threat.
The overlords are yanking O'Donnell's choke-collar to keep guard on the elitist castles.
more details
Via RPF:
This leftist blogger retracted their earlier post and said that Lawrence O'Donnell lied about Senator Paul.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/03/31/so-apparently-i-blew...
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Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the Senate proceed to the immediate consideration of S. Res. 85, which was introduced earlier today.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will report the resolution by title.
The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:
A resolution (S. Res. 85) strongly condemning the gross and systematic violations of human rights in Libya, including violent attacks on protesters demanding democratic reforms, and for other purposes.
There being no objection, the Senate proceeded to consider the resolution.
Mr. SCHUMER. Mr. President, I ask the resolution be agreed to, the preamble be agreed to, the motions to reconsider be laid upon the table, with no intervening action or debate, and any statements be printed in the Record.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
The resolution (S. Res. 85) was agreed to.
The preamble was agreed to.
There was no vote in Congress authorizing our military action in a foreign country. Please read the Constitution. If you are required to obey laws, our country must also live up to its end of the bargain and obey its rules.
Rand never voted for ‘resolution 85’. It was passed on motion ‘without objection’ before Rand could even get back to the floor, wasn’t even read, so no one knew what was in it, and was explained away as ‘nonbinding’. Check out the Congressional Record, only the TITLE mentioning NO military action was read, even, before it was deemed passed. Wonder why they did it like that? Maybe because Rand Paul had been the only one to object to extending the Patriot Act for three years ‘by unanimous consent’ the same way? What sort of ‘representative government’ is this?
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Lawrence O'Donnell = Liar
When did Lawrence O'Donnell suddenly become a neo-con? The premise of his argument is so absurd and in light of the facts he is the egregious liar.
Here is another audio recording with Senator Paul's office:
http://h1.ripway.com/lololyesplz/randpaullibyaresolution.mp3
Same girl I think, she says the hotline is not legally binding and it's a sneaky procedure, a loophole, which Senator Paul disagrees with that allows the Senate to get things through without voting.
Lawrence O'Donnell is a liar who should apologize. What an idiot. Concern yourself with the people starting a 3rd war in a Muslim country, not some b.s. Senate loophole in some deceptively passed bill that wasn't defined.