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Troops Won't Receive Paycheck if Gov. Shuts Down

Troops Won't Receive Paycheck if Government Shuts Down
Federal Agencies Prepare for Shutdowns, No Hints of a Deal Between Republicans and Democrats
[If they don't get paid, maybe they'll just leave.]

By HUMA KHAN
April 6, 2011
Soldiers deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan will not receive paychecks next week if the government fails to come together on a resolution to keep the government funded and avert a shutdown, senior government officials said today.

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Watch: Barack Obama Demands Progress on BudgetMilitary personnel will be paid eventually but not until Congress appropriates money to the Department of Defense. Whether civilians at the Pentagon get paid is another story. Since "non-essential" staff is furloughed during a government shutdown, Congress must decide once it reaches a resolution whether to give backpay to dismissed employees.

"We expect a significant number of civilian DOD employees will unfortunately be furloughed if the government shuts down," a senior administration official said today.

Louis Bornman, a DOD employee who has spent 12 years of active duty in the Army, says getting furloughed could jeopardize his entire retirement savings. He says it will also adversely impact the federal government and taxpayers.

"It is very demoralizing to think you're going to be laid off and not paid," said Bornman, based in Ft. Leavenworth, Kan. "People will have to work overtime in the near future, which ultimately will cost the government more money. ... It's very disconcerting that you're looked upon as disposable when you're providing that backup service that the nation depends upon."

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, has introduced a bipartisan bill with seven other members that would allow military personnel to receive paychecks in the case of a government shutdown.

"Our military men and women put their lives on the line and sacrifice every day to ensure our security. They should not have to worry about getting paid on time," said Sen. Bob Casey, D-Penn., who co-sponsored the bill.

Defense contractors will also be impacted
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My congressman

a democrat just emailed me saying the troops will still be supported.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Maybe the military

has been a little too complacent. Maybe this will get them thinking government is not exactly their friend.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

That means

my son will be moving back in with me. =I

reedr3v's picture

Reducing the military would reunite many

families, while saving others from bombs.

I know! Print more money!

Why didn't anyone think of this before??

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

Yep

A friend of mine who is in the military just posted on Face Book that he is only going to get half of his pay next week. I guess it's about time the Military goes after our Domestic enemies..

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

It's a Small Sacrifice

Unquestioning obedience to the President flows from the generals and admirals down through the enlisted ranks. They won't be protesting in the streets like other government employees. Perhaps that's why they've been chosen to demonstrate their patriotism and loyalty once again as political fodder in the budget "battle". After all, shedding a little "green" is better than shedding red for your country. (Some may shed both). At least they can take comfort in the knowledge that their political "leaders" truly care about their well-being (as demonstrated by the cheap homage they routinely pay to the sacrifices made by the military, and which they and their families wish they could also make if they weren't so busy "serving the public" in D.C.)

If American military personel...

are not paid, then they have reason to consider their contract with Corp US null and void. If I were overseas or at home in the uSA, and I didn't get my check, then I'd start packing to go elsewhere. Unfortunately with the unemployment situation as it is, that is a hard choice to swallow. But, if a large portion of the military stood up to Corp US in this fashion, and were supported by Liberty minded individuals in their communities, then the reach of Corp US's empire would be dwindled simply by "free market" choices (ie, no pay for services, no free work from me!)acting in a rational manner. Then when the fact that much military killing is done as a "kill for pay" action, that would start a whole new consciousness growing; one detrimental the very idea of government sponsored war. A small interruption in the gnawing teeth of government grazing our fiscal landscape could be a small door to very expansive places.

Assert Your Authority

I wonder if contractual law would apply...

...in the military.

Good question though. After all is said and done, 'joining' the military is simply a multi-year contractual obligation to provide a service for a series of benefits and wages. If the 'joiner' breaches his end of the contract we all know what happens.

What happens when the 'join-ee' voids the contract?

I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...

then let's get this thing

then let's get this thing shut down as fast as possible.

Remember something important

While those in the military as officers and enlisted will not get paid, they do not go hungry. I have a friend that works on Ft. Hood and she is concerned about the imminent shutdown, it won't effect her unless this goes past 3 weeks.

What this does do is shutdown all those Haliburton and Blackwater people. THEY ARE FURLOUGHED.

All mercenaries that are around the World working for the US no longer get paid.

As a furloughed worker, in many countries, if you don't have gainful employment, you will be required to leave with in 72 hours of the shutdown. And while I can see Haliburton or Blackwater wanting to keep these folks in the field, I doubt after a week, they will be able to afford it on their own dime.

I quite honestly am looking forward to this shutdown. May it last a good long time.

Peace through superior balanced budget

Pay their salaries out of the same fund Obama is using...

to pay for the Libya operation. Charlie Rangel doesn't know where he gets the money; who does?

Boo hoo

Being a tax feeder has disadvantages.

yet another reason to pray for a shutdown

psychopathic mercenaries not getting paid ??
OH MY !!

Well

My husband is in the navy and is deployed right now. His CO is putting out word that this is true and if a budget isn't passed tonight will not be receiving pay until the shutdown ends. My family will be fine But I know a lot of families that will be having a lot of trouble until this is resolved. The Commissary on base grocery store will be closed as of tomorrow morning (saw the sign on the door myself). I do think the government will quickly figure this out at least with Military Pay because it is terrible PR (which is all they care about anyway). But if not the service members who are gone can do nothing to help there families get though this. Which no matter how wrong you think it is please do not imply that the troops will come home if they are not paid or any unjust wars will stop because it is just not true. Also I do not find it fear mongering because even if there is a 1% chance that my husband will not see a paycheck I'd rather know so I can start planning for the worst.

Jacksonville, FL

My son is Airforce

and they are being told the same thing.
I think it is BS that they are using the Military as a pawn to try to push through this budget. They are causing allot of undue stress on our military families that are already dealing with enough stress.

Yet non essential services will be paid on time.

Boy, they cherry picked what was essential and non essential. The law does say that during a shutdown non essential personnel are barred from coming to work. Since the US has declared military as non essential, they should leave.

lol

I tell my Husband to start swimming.

Jacksonville, FL

or he can get on a boat headed for the US

less sharks. :)

He is a Sailor...

So he would have to swim home as he is floating about the ocean right now. lol I'm not sure hitch hiking works out there.

Jacksonville, FL

also

I've been a member of the DP for over 3yrs, and after reading the comments on here I want to remind you that in 2008 RP received the most money of any candidate from the armed forces.

Jacksonville, FL

Something smells fishy about

Something smells fishy about all this. I'm sure what you say is true...but how can a grocery store on base be forewarned to close? What's up with that? When and if they stop paying military...Is this a deliberate budget cut? Does it mean troops can come home? None of this is making sense because the Congress is going to have a shut down holiday? Common sense is being held ransom to accommodate the current administration.

The commisary is run using Federal Money

So all employees are paid with federal money allotted in the federal budget. They will be furloughed during the government shutdown. This is just my understanding and I may be wrong but this is what they are putting out in official statements to us.

Jacksonville, FL

I'm sorry.

Maybe Congress can pass Rand's bill so essential services can go on, and maybe they can (they certainly should) include in that a rider permitting unpaid troops to come home on the President's & Congressmen's tab, because they caused the shutdown.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

More bs fear mongering! Not

More bs fear mongering! Not true DoD and DHS won't be affected, especially because of the HR resolution that pass yesterday.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Obama says he will veto

that resolution.

Not surprised

but still doesn't change the fact that DoD and DHS won't be affected by the shut down, from my understanding it will only be non-descretionary, non-military spending that will be on hold.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I don't know where all this

I don't know where all this hype is coming from. There is no reason why the system in place does not continue. Shutting down the gov't should only affect the federal elected officials. Their paychecks should stop and reflect this down time as a holiday. Everything else should carry on. Does Obama really want to see how the system can carry on without him? It's interesting that Canada's gov't parliament is already shut down and now the US congress is on the brink of shutting down at the same time?

Maybe when the paychecks stop

Maybe when the paychecks stop coming in they will start to think a bit more about liberty, our Constitution, their oath to it and how it came to be that they are over there fighting in unconstitutional undeclared wars.

Kinda disturbing is how when the Soviet Union collapsed the troops didn't get their last pay checks either. USSR didn't have enough money to even bring their troops home. They were left to find their own way & pay for it themselves. Hopefully that sort of thing never happens to our troops.

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