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My NeoCon Republican friends....

Since 2002, my NeoCon Republican friends (800 email addresses) have received weekly new stories and videos and articles on Ron Paul.

They have been thoroughly "Pauled".

But lets now talk about the feedback.

"He's not macho enough for me. I think any Chinese president could push around a President Paul. Thats too scary for me."

"I can't stand his squeaky voice. It gets to me that he sort of whines"

"He doesn't command the room for me. He can't be my leader, my President"

"One reason why I liked Rudy and then Fred Thomas and then in the end Romney was that they just are not the kind of men who could be pushed around. For me, Ron Paul with his pencil neck and old age seems to me a worse looking Presidential material than Jimmie Carter, and we know what a softy he was".

"Wow, did you see Donald Trump at CPAC? He totally schooled Ron Paulers, put them in there place. He wouldn't put up with anybodies sh*t. I like that in a President."

"Well the reason I can never vote for Paul, although I agree with 99% of everything he says (except the war issue, we should bomb those Muslims into glass, f*ckem.) My response to Paul is, "Hey, they may be coming here because we are over there, so what. Its our oil, not theirs. Look it up. American companies found it, drilled it, and when Iran tried to steal BP's oil plants, we took them down. So what? Sure Ron Paul is right, it caused blow back with the hostages, but that mistake was Carters. He should have sent the Shaw and his stolen loot back to Iran, he didn't, and that is what caused the hostage taking. All I care about is Israel, who is trying real hard to make it in her country. The Palestinians lost in 67, LOST, so get over it. Land gone, so Settlements can continue! Go to Jordan losers. What I do agree with Paul is my Tax dollars should not be building Settlements, period. But support the Palestinians never, I am not an anti-Semite!!!"

"I do like Ron Paul, I like how he is consistent. He is not a flip flopper. What I don't like is he just doesn't seem Presidential to me. I can't say what it is, but I just can't imagine him in the White House, but Huckabee I know he will consult the Bible and do the right thing for America. Paul never talks about the Bible, just the Constitution. I think Huckabee knows of the Muslim threat to our Christian Culture here."

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I could go on, but you can see from this cross section, we activists have a CHALLENGE ahead of us. Ron has been SEEN AND REPUBLICANS have PASSED on Ron Paul. He is a political product that earns a safe and secure 10%, but after that, he earns a big fact zero from the Rank n File Republicans.

True, they have NOT settled on who they want, they just know he must be more Macho, Commanding, and very very Presidential. Hence why they are excited about Trump. They want him to say to Obama, youre fired. Cheeky, but it works.

Enter RAND PAUL. To my SURPRISE, Sean Hanity, Lou Dobbs, and many others all LIKE Rand Paul and "the way he says things". Hundreds of other neoconized republicans on my email list like him too. Surprise. And they don't see him as weak, which is everything to them.

I think for my ACTIVISM to be reunited again, I would be inspired with a RAND PAUL for PRESIDENT CAMPAIGN. Sure, Dr. Ron Paul would no doubt be there, each step of the way. The question on Every Reporter's lips, "Who would be your Vice Presidential Pick? would it be your father?" And Rand would no doubt play that question out, mentioning lots of names, and never saying yea or nay to Ron Paul.

Republicans, especially NeoConized rank n file, seem to really LIKE Rand Paul.

"He's presidential" they say.

Watch Hanity here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXtYZ2SCifI

Rand2012... is a new and improved product for the NeoConnized Republican rank n file. They can "See Rand Paul as a real "Presidential Contendor"...

We activists, must STOP and think long and hard about pushing RAND PAUL at this time. The after 2012, Rand Paul could be a house hold name, and then by 2016, a top favorite to take the White House with Gov Gary Johnson as VP in tow....

For those that think Obama will loose in 2012, I tend to agree with Dr. Walter Williams who says, Obama will win, no matter who comes at him. The 10 Reasons Obama will win in 2012 are: http://faultlineusa.blogspot.com/2011/04/obama-wins-in-2012-...

SO,... who do we wish to make a household name for 2016? That is the question. For my ACTIVISM, its Rand Paul 2012.

In peace and liberty,
Treg

PS. Can someone send this to Dr. Ron Paul... it might make him think for the movement. The Campaign For Liberty could go on for decades and the young will have their hero, Rand Paul.

PSS. Like it or not, Jed Bush is the real GOP insider favorite for 2016. He will not be brought out to run in 2012, cause they know Obama will win. And in 2016, republican Rank n File will follow another Bush to the voting booth, curtsy of the elites in the GOP. So in 2016, it will be Jed Bush vs every other Republican contender... and so what RAND PAUL DOES in 2012, build his financial Coffers and most of all NAME RECOGNITION, positions himself for 2016. So yes, 2012 counts! Ron Paul, as much as I love him, will not be running in 2016. Think about it long and hard, the road to freedom is a strategic battle, as much as its a battle for ideas and policies.




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"Pushed around by the

"Pushed around by the Chinese?" LOL!

Sounds like most of your friends have the mentality of shallow little 12 year old girls who see only as far as their teen magazine!

Pathetic! But most Neo-cons and libtards are....

Most Americans are semi-retarded

These comments confirm that fact very clearly. Do they know Jefferson was a short red head with a lisp?

+5

(The new plus button only allows me to give you a +1.)

> He is a political product that
> earns a safe and secure 10%.

Aside from Lawson's comment, the above is one of the nightmares of my every waking moment.

The only "hope" I can see is if we keep waking people up and getting people thinking. Can we get enough? Maybe in a few generations (60+ years), if we keep at it. Have we got that much time? Probably not, but we won't know if we don't try.

Paul/Paul 2012

For liberty, peace and prosperity

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

The guy you link to

is a joke. His whole argument for every reason is just because I say so or because their black they will vote for him. Ignorant and idiotic.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Walter Williams? Is that the link you think is a Joke?

Do a little google or you tube search on "that guy I link too"..... you may find he has been a life long libertarian since 1965, professor of Econ at George Mason University...and so he comes with a wealth of observational experience watching elections and the electorate. His certainty that Obama will be reelected is a prediction, and so if we in the R3VOLution take that as a likely event, how then do we wish to position ourselves for 2016? And even if the republicans take the white house with Trump/Romney/Huckabee etal, again, how do we wish to position ourselves? I suggest in both cases, it would be wise for us to get behind RAND Paul, just to make RAND a household name in 2016 race. Running Dr Ron Paul again, when he is a political product that the consumer has seen (and can be argued has a HUGE age bias, as in, anyone over 70 can't BE President)...may not be the wise way to go for us in the R3VOLution.

What do you think?

In peace and liberty,
Treg

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The problem is

He just assumes everyone will vote a certain way because of the "group" they belong to. Which is obviously silly. Just because someone is homosexual, american indian, and so forth does not gaurantee they will vote any perticular way. That is the silly part.

He claims all these people will vote one way or another because that's just the way it is. But all people don't just see things in black and white anymore. I was a democrat for a long time, but my views have changed greatly in the last couple of years as have many people's views.

People's ideas change and so do their views. You can't assume because it was one way that it will always remain that way

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

The neocons are just like the progressives.

They think their gig can go on forever, and they just ignore the debt issue.
There is no way to change the minds of these people.

If we can't win on principle, then we have to let the debt take its course until the neocons and progressives have nowhere else to turn, and there's no money for anything.

We are prepared for the crash and they are not.
If they want to starve to death for their cause, then let them.
We have rifles and ammo and food and water and land and silver, and all that's necessary to survive the inevitable end of their game.
They don't.

Some might call it "Darwinism". They are going to be evolved out of the future by their own stupidity.
The ones with survival preps and some brains will survive.
That's us.

Big shake-out coming, and they aren't going to make it.
Let's make sure that WE do.

Once again....

Wisdom from the BigT...

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

Opps ! I have been corrected....thanks for your gentle touch.

You are a Catholic nun right? lol...Seriously, people like you? You get converts to our cause with that sharp tongue?

Yes I certainly want to be taken seriously, and treated kindly. Thanks, I guess, for your corrections.

In peace & liberty,
Treg

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"The System of Liberty: Themes in the History of Classical Liberalism" ...by author George Smith --
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I can't help but feeling...

that it's JEB Bush, too.

( Raised in Catholic schools by Catholic NUNS! )

-m.

-Michael
(I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken)

Hard to understand:

I just don't understand some peoples thinking.
I have one friend that said she can't support Rand because he has red hair. She's no idiot on most things, but that just makes me wonder. Is something that trivial what makes folks go whacko?

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hmm..

I wish both of them could somehow be in the debates.. To have 2 very intelligent people, like the Pauls with the real liberty message out there would make it all the more effective during debate.

Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts

ℛ[ƎVO˩]ution
"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
‎"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."

Get new "friends".

These people will vote for whomever the media tells them too. It does not matter how much reality they are forced to ingest, they are lemmings and will follow the "leader" with the loudest voice, which is why our country is in the shape it is in today.

These are simply email "friends"

I would like to also have 800 progressive "friends".... but I don't run in those circles.

From 2000 to 2011 I have been running around conservative Republican rank n file circles busy pushing the good doctor. On paper it seems like a good easy sell, but the Good Doctor has Liberty as his bright star from which to sail the political waters and make principled judgments, but the rank n file have STRENGTH as their bright star--and the NEOCONS know this. This is WHY they swallow the neocon line, whole. It promises American STRENGTH. For them the Constitution is Good because it gives America Strength, Taxes bad because it makes us weaker, Taking the War over there because it makes us Stronger, and on and on it goes. The fact that Dr. Ron Pauls positions often line up, misses the mark for them because it is not SOLD to them as MAKING AMERICA STRONGER....Freedom itself must be sold to them as Making America and Americans STRONGER. Their god is the War God, and they will be loyal forever as long as they think War Makes American and Americans Stronger. Hence, Dr. Paul's emphasis, for them, is misplaced, even though they agree with the position he takes on many issues (all but the war).

For a change, I am open to joining the liberal democrats and try to spread the R3VOLution among their rank n file... It would be interesting if for one reason only, they hold "Equality" as their bright political guiding star, so framing the message would be a challenge since our bright star is Liberty for all. It would be a sell indeed, showing them that only by advancing Liberty will we get anything close to Equality of outcome and result. They, meanwhile, will always be tempted to shortcut straight to Equality for the feel good of it, and then try to place blame as to why the results often do not pan out. This is also why liberal Democrats can and do get sold War interventionism time and again, -- it promises EQUALITY. If you listen carefully, you can here many on the Left make this very case. Progressive Talk radio on WHY Obama "had" to "do something" in Lybia, to at least make an "equal playing field between the rebels and Qaddafi forces"... and so it goes....stretching back to Bill Clinton's Bosnia bombing from 33,000 feet from above to Johnson's "we've got to do something" in Vietnam.

In a way, we can we can see that both conservative Republicans and liberal democrats have as their secondary default position the others position. As in, (conservatives) when something is not making terribly America STRONG, we make it Equal and it will be strong. Or conversely, (liberals) when something is terribly not Equal, we must be Strong to make it so. --- This then is the INTERLOCKING mechanism, the interlocking self reinforcing ideas of the Two Parties political beliefs.

For Liberty to enter this two-step tangle, it must always sell itself as "THE PATH", "THE WAY TO", "THE GENIUS as to why America has STRENGTH and EQUALITY". The better we sell them on Liberty, does not mean either will give up their own political bright star, but we just may get the moderates and pragmatists to Agree with us, and once again, we will have the majority behind the Libertarian political bright star.

In peace and liberty,
Treg

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All of their comments are as

All of their comments are as if they want to date him rather than listen to his message. They have been hollywooded. I never even noticed the things they talked about. The message, the message, the message.

What a bunch of idiots.

I second that

weak minded (and weak-willed) people need strong and over bearing "macho" leader...

“The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had." - Eric Schmidt

All I can say for your friends are they are very weak minded...

I am surprised there wasn't a comment about him being an isolationist as many I talk to use the media verbatim to dis Ron as they were taught to do. Macho, non squeaky voiced, individuals have led our nation down the spiral, to the edge of the precipice. So it is not that important of an attribute to command and control the nation as those in the past that meet those requirements have failed miserably. The question that should be asked of them is how much failure will it take to change the presidency from a beauty contest to a contest of intellect? I wish I could be as blind as your neo con friends, but their awakening will happen soon enough when their paper money is worthless, what an awakening it will be.

Always remember:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." ~ Samuel Adams
If they hate us for our freedom, they must LOVE us now....

Stay IRATE, remain TIRELESS, an

Well I couldn't agree with you more...

and by "800 email friends" its a term I use lightly...of course.

Yes, please BUY this wonderful libertarian BOOK! We all must know the History of Freedom! Buy it today!

"The System of Liberty: Themes in the History of Classical Liberalism" ...by author George Smith --
Buy it Here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/05211820