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Bradley Manning's Treatment Worsens as Constitutional Scholars Condemn FedGov

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/7100-bradley-mann...

One of President Barack Obama's Harvard professors has condemned the Defense Department's treatment of suspected WikiLeaks source Pfc. Bradley Manning, as the Obama administration has denied access to Manning by the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture, Juan Mendez.

Among the nearly 300 constitutional scholar signatories condemning the federal government holding Manning in isolation since July is Lawrence Tribe, one of Obama's Harvard Law School professors.

The constitutional scholars argued that Manning’s treatment "violates his person and his liberty without due process of law and in the way it administers cruel and unusual punishment of a sort that cannot be constitutionally inflicted even upon someone convicted of terrible offenses, not to mention someone merely accused of such offenses." The group complained that Manning is kept in solitary confinement under a "Prevention of Injury" regulation that has required forced nudity before male and female guards, procedures that the Obama administration has refused to explain publicly. The constitutional scholars concluded: "In an Orwellian twist, the spokesman for the brig commander refused to explain the forced nudity 'because to discuss the details would be a violation of Manning’s privacy.'"

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Bump for today.

Thoughts/prayers for Bradley Manning are needed.

Thank you Qwerk

& this is my last comment on this day.

Some people feel the need to play God.
Fruits of their playing -- war crimes are exposed by some brave people and then what happens? -- the guilty preside over heroic ones keeping them down torturing them.
In many ways everything is upside down on this planet.

This heavy metal song tells the story:
Americon by Slayer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-agFa12SSM

...and here latest atrocities by the Syrian Security Forces:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fplAgaZcpA

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enjoy your evening.

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Constitution be damned!

Its just a "quaint" document after all! No, it is so much better to adopt the Napoleanic Code, after all. Heck, it is the one good thing that came out of those French surrender monkeys! But, we showed them - we renamed their Freedom Fries! USA! USA! We are #1! Yee Haa!

"Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won,whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory." --- Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

RƎVO⅃UTION NOW!

Manning is officially a "suspect"

being held for trial.
He's not even convicted.

Aside from the sadistic part of this torture, they are punishing a "suspect" who has not even been proven guilty.
This is so far out of bounds that it isn't even imaginable.
It's insanity.

and I have heard nary a WORD from Ron or Rand about this

VERY disappointing :-(

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No. I did see a video of Ron criticizing

the treatment of unconvicted Manning when this first came up, sorry I didn't save the link. He did say if proven to be guilty of an illegal act, Manning must accept whatever is the correct legal consequence. Ron is, after all, a constitutionalist.

From Rand no word that I've heard; he is not the man his father is yet, let's hope he continues his rapid growth in courage toward liberty and peace.

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Here it is. IoP dug it up for us. . .

Ron Paul Calls Wikileaks & Bradley Manning Heros
Submitted by instrumentofpeace on Thu, 04/14/2011

http://www.dailypaul.com/161882/ron-paul-calls-wikileaks-bra...

I remember this

I do remember, but I think the wish is that they'd do more:

1) Write a letter
2) Get a petition from Congress
3) Propose a bill (that seems silly since it's obviously criminal what the gov't is doing)
4) Go visit Manning in prison.

I don't know, something like that would be appropriate. This is very disturbing that our Congress let's this happen on their watch. I mean, Obama, it seems could walk up to Manning and put a bullet in his head, and I don't believe Congress would do a thing, just turn their heads.

And the media wouldn't even cover it, or if they did, it would be to call anybody who criticizes the murder as a "conspiracy theorist".

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Ron mentioned this issue during one interview

I remember when asked Ron talked about this issue without mentioning Manning.
Going to try to find the interview.

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I hadn't realized this. But it's true.

Michael, could you get a message to Ron / Rand about this. Is it politically unpleasant for them to say something?

I know they are outraged too, no doubt. But will it really hurt them politically to speak out for the Constitutional rights of a whistleblower?

Heck, Ron is a whistleblower. That could be HIM in the torture chamber!

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

terrible...

This blatant torture of one of America's own is just too much...

Where is the public outcry!?!?

Bump for this evening.

May Bradley Manning's plight be heard around the world. In God We Trust.

I'd like to see some specific condemnation of

the administration by some free nations' leaders! Not pots calling the kettle black, like Afghanistan, China and others too numerous to mention.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

UN expert says US blocking meeting with 'Wikileaks' soldier

By REUTERS
04/11/2011 22:00

GENEVA - The United Nations investigator on torture on Monday accused the US administration of blocking a one-on-one meeting he was seeking with detained "Wikileaks" soldier Bradley Manning.

Argentine lawyer Juan Mendez said he had been trying to organize a visit to check on Manning's condition since December.

http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=216172

"Its easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Mark Twain

Let's see, the U.N. is

Let's see, the U.N. is consulted when we go to war with Libya but has no influence over 1 indefinite detainee in the pokey? Strange times.

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. . . and mind you, our secretary of state, Hillary C is after

UN top officials' credit card numbers, finger prints, DNA info and all.

They are totally at the mercy of USA imperial whim.

What can we do?

This is an outrage.

I can't believe even the editors and chief producers of the the controlled media don't report this out of concern for their own welfare.

Surely some bigwigs in the media will start to cross their masters, and say "Damn my career! I'm not gonna do their bidding anymore!"

If such people exist, I'd like to know who they are.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

Lou Dobbs tried didn't he?

Lou Dobbs tried didn't he?

we need to get the word out to the public

one way to help get attention to Bradley Manning is spreading the articles/videos about him using Twitter Facebook email contacts e.t.c.
or if one has a website posting about him like I did here:
http://www.libertypoet.com/manning/index.html

anything helps --
I composed a poem about him
http://www.libertypoet.com/poems/lettertobradleymanning/inde...
others wrote songs and posted on youtube...
this guy here in Concord NH is writing on the sidewalks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7-dB04zVE4

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Dennis Kucinich

"When Pfc. Manning indicated his desire to meet with me, I was belatedly informed that the meeting could only take place if it was recorded because of a Monitoring Order imposed by the military's Special Courts-Martial Convening Authority on September 16, 2010, which was convened for the case. Confidentiality is required, however, to achieve the candor that is necessary to perform the oversight functions with which I am tasked as a Member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. I was also told that I could be subpoenaed to testify about the contents of my conversation with Pfc. Manning.

This is a clear subversion of the constitutionally protected oversight process and it severely undermines the rights of any Member of Congress seeking to gather information on the conditions of a detainee in U.S. custody."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-dennis-kucinich/my-experie...

Naomi Wolf warned us

The 10 steps necessary for a Fascistic group (or government) to destroy the democratic character of a nation-state and subvert the social/political liberty previously exercised by its citizens includes the setting up of secret prisons where torture takes place. She notes that every country she studied that first practiced torture outside it's borders eventually began torturing it's own citizens back home.

For anyone who wasn't around this board a couple of years ago, please bookmark this remarkable 48" lesson presented by Naomi Wolf.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc

11 Steps

Naomi failed to address the issue of gun control in her book "The End of America". Otherwise, she accurately describes the way in which nation states become authoritarian or fascist.

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Top Constitutional Law Profs and

cannon-fodder generation to be united to FREE Bradley Manning!

As Adam K says: "When injustice becomes law, RESISTANCE becomes duty"
http://www.dailypaul.com/161792/adam-vs-the-man-episode-2-vi...

and a great insightful summary of this sordid Manning affair by 2x Scott Hortons:
"The Criminal Treatment of Brad Manning"
http://antiwar.com/radio/2011/04/12/the-other-scott-horton-13/

Thanks for a bump

half a million people signed a petition in defence of Bradley Manning:
http://www.dailypaul.com/161832/half-million-people-join-eff...

I set up a special section on my website to help get the word out:
http://www.libertypoet.com/manning/index.html

Truth is if we do nothing to help him -- nothing will happen.

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