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DeMint term limits bill is back! Rand Paul, Mike Lee on board

Big news! Yesterday, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) reintroduced his Term Limits for All amendment bill which would limit the terms of House members to 3 and senators to 2 via constitutional amendment. He was flanked by the good guys in the Senate on this, with Sens. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Mike Lee (R-UT) among the 10 initial sponsors.

Co-sponsors to S.J. Res. 11 included New Hampshire Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn, Nevada Republican Sen. John Ensign, Texas Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Wisconsin Republican Sen. Ron Johnson, Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee, Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul, Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Pat Toomey, and Louisiana Republican Sen. David Vitter.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/15/term-limits-for-congress/#...

This is not a great surprise as Rand, of course, is a enthusiastic backer of term limits and had specifically endorsed the DeMint bill during his campaign. See: http://www.dailypaul.com/114531/rand-paul-endorses-demint-te...

For more info on the bill, see:
http://thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d112:11:./temp/~bdfo2L::|/bss/

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Hold on. Let's think this through.

There is a two-term limit for POTUS. How is that working out? I do not notice the presidents getting better since Amendment 22 passed in 1951. I think a few more terms for Ike might have worked out somewhat better than Johnson.

Why does Rand Paul want to fire his dad? What gives the federal government the right to tell the People of the 14th Congressional District of Texas whom they may vote into office?

The measure would require a constitutional amendment. And for what? To limit voters' choices by government decree.

If it were to pass (unlikely as that would be), the parties and lobbyists would restructure into "congressman mills" specialized in finding and promoting new, slick, largely unknown puppets. Think of Mr. Obama as the prototype. Why would individuals and outside groups spend their money and years of work to get good people into office, even those with the last name of Paul?

The problem is not that three-term congress critters have too much experience. The problem is the seniority system. CHANGE THAT. I think a strong case can be made that the seniority system is unconstitutional, in that it denies equal representation.

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Term limits can equal a revolving door

especially at the state level.

Oh! can't be a representative any longer? Well then, let's just run him for senator, or governor, or AG, or Sec. of State, or.......And round and round we go, with the same "never had a real productive job" entities feeding at the public trough and running our lives.

You make excellent arguments, Jive.

The more I pay attention to this system the more I lean toward the "withdraw consent" by not participating camp.

Terrific!

We should make a push for this, it has appeal across the spectrum.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

A useless endeavor when the

A useless endeavor when the philosophy of the majority is big government.It doesn't matter if Ted Kennedy gets elected for 10 terms or 5 different people are elected 2 terms each,when all of them share the same philosophy of bigger government.

13 No servant can serve two masters; for either he shall hate the one, and love the other, or else he shall lean to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and riches. - Luke 16

Term limits have not worked in Michigan

What we end up with are people who don't know the system, AND massive amounts of people leaving with lucrative pensions.

Of course Michigan has more problems than term limits.

no to term limits

That means good guys like Ron Paul would have to leave office also.

Looks good on paper

You think lame-duck sessions are bad? Try term-limits.
This will assure that the outgoing Senator gets to hand-pick their own replacement by simply resigning a few months prior to the end of their term.
We need to press "reset" on the whole system and term limits do nothing to that end.

I hadn't thought of that.

Ick.

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul

I agree. Term limits do

I agree. Term limits do little to change things. If you have two terms, you sell yourself out to get into office and the second term, you know you don't have to account to anyone but special interests. Plenty of states have term limits and it does nothing to ward off corruption. Look at Michigan.

People just don't care. If David Vitter, who is married with kids, gets busted with hookers, who dress him up in a diaper and act like he's a baby, can get reelected, what is the point of term limits? Look at McCain, Lieberman, Dodd, Frank, Specter, etc... They're all corrupt, but people continue to vote them in office. So now we'll just have corrupt people voted in every two terms.

Until the voters get educated, term limits are a moot point.

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Anyone think Reid, Graham,

Anyone think Reid, Graham, Boxer, Daniel Inoye, etc will sign on to this bill??

Kay Bailey Hutchison?

Several of the Senators on this list of co-sponsors make sense, but seriously, Kay? Can she count? She is in her third term and was supposed to resign already due to her loss in the Governor's race. Good for Demint, Rand, and Lee. These guys are really making waves in the Senate. I love what they're doing and my coward Senator John Cornyn, along with Graham, McConnell, etc., all those guys are in for tough re-election bids in the next 2-4 years. Things are changing. Everyday there are more people awake at work, in social cirlces, it's crazy.

I put my Ron Paul 2012 sticker on in October and it opened the door to talk to many co-workers on the side about different issues. I'm amazed how many are catching on. I really believe we have a shot this time around and I hope as I just read on another post, that Robert Paul runs as well. It's exciting times for Liberty minded people.

bump.

bump.

Until election fraud is under

Until election fraud is under control, I support term limits. Once election fraud has been eliminated by "WE The People", and we take over the election counting process, then I would favor doing away with term Limits.

This bill was also in Congress just days away before 911 occured and not a word since then until this. i am shocked my newly elected Senator NeoCon (Ron Johnson) is a co-sponsor.

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Rather than any "term

Rather than any "term limits", balanced budget" or other noble sounding amendment to the Constitution, why not use all of our efforts to point out that the problem is not that the Constitution is deficient, the problem is that the Constitution is not being followed?

The stealing and loss of our freedoms has nothing to do with how long people remain in office in Washington. It has to do with the lack of integrity and character of the people elected. Replacing criminals every two, four or six years would accomplish nothing. There is an endless supply of opportunists waiting in the wings to serve the special interest and reap their reward.

We already have term limits. They are called elections. If the electorate is too stupid to throw out bad politicians, a law the mandates replacing one criminal with another wouldn't do anything. People need to be educated. They need to understand that our problems all stem from the fact that the Constitution is being ignored.

If only Constitutional programs and laws, and Constitutional departments, agencies and bureaus were the rule, not only would we not have an unbalanced budet, we would have no need for a personal income tax! It is the personal income tax, and the Federal Reserve System which provide the money for the socializing of our nation. Enforce the Constitution and the Federal Reserve System is history. No more inflation.

We don't need more laws or more amendments. We just need to return to what we already have - but is not being followed. Every public servants takes an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Let's make them abide by that oath, or replace them.

AGREED!

WE are the TERM LIMITERS.

-m.

-Michael
(I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken)

Right. I strongly agree with

Right. I strongly agree with these comments and am somehow against term limits. Of course, with people around that keep voting in Reid and Pelosi, I can see the point. Still, we should be the ones limiting terms in Congress.