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The Gary Johnson Wildcard

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It now looks certain that Gary Johnson will be running for President. A month ago his political advocacy group, OUR America, was sending out fundraising requests full of hints such as: "P.S. Gov. Johnson will be traveling many more times to states like New Hampshire, Iowa, Florida, South Carolina, and Nevada over the coming months."(1) By March. 25, there were press reports that Johnson would "bypass the exploratory stage, announce his candidacy and immediately travel to New Hampshire sometime after tax day, April 15."(2) By March 29, the story was that "he will formally announce his candidacy for president on April 21 in New Hampshire."(3) On April 12, Johnson himself "confirmed that he has scheduled a news conference for April 21 on the steps of the New Hampshire State Capitol in Concord to discuss his plans for the 2012 election."(4)

So the earlier question -- Will Johnson run? -- looks answered. The question now is: What will his candidacy mean to the rEVOLution (the fight for a free society) and the part of it were interested in here, rEVOLution 2.0? And that question cannot be answered so easily. Johnson is a true wild card in this years game.

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This is gonna be one hellava battle. I'm glad i will live to see

it in my lifetime.

Kissinger, Rockefeller depressed that the American people are finding out about their plans to involve us in these stupid wars THEY Are planning in Yemen and also Saudi Arabia.

Additionally, I hear they are also depressed about us finding out from Alex Jones (Source : Jim Tucker), Matt Drudge and American Free Press that they want gasoline to go to 7 bucks a gallon by the end of 2011.

Listen guys, we got these New World Oder (Oder) creatures on the run. Keep moving forward. Inform one another like Paul Revere and Hawes did on horseback in 1776..

Remember, the answer to 1984 is 1776..

The Second Great American Revolution has begun...BELIEVE ME!!

I can see an advantage to having multiple libertarian minded

candidates fighting for the nomination.

Ron Paul was portrayed as a nut by the media as they analyzed the Republican debates. If there were others in the debate presenting similar ideas, it would have lent greater legitimacy to the libertarian position in the minds of the mindless public, and made it more difficult for the media to portray freedom loving candidates as kooks.

Of course there is the disadvantage of spreading the resources of those supporting multiple libertarian minded candidates.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

I agree Henry.

I agree Henry.

Despite Johnson's extreme views on immigration and other

things. I would not fault him as a "threat" for announcing, but wonder where Ron Paul on announcing. I know he's filed the exploratory committee already, which is a good thing.

Keep in mind guys, Bob Barr ended up running NLP in 2008, and never mentioned Ron Paul's name on purpose. Now... the guy is running his little anti-TSA movement and stuff. It almost seems that the "Reason Magazine endorsed" kind of people run just to get their names in and detract from a viable movement.------------------

Really wish Gary would have just been RP's VP mate. But, then someone else would have just run for the "LP Darling" role.

non intervention

does johnson stand in a different light than ron paul about non intervention..as a foreign policy...???????

"Defense and the Middle East

"Defense and the Middle East War:
The United States should be protected from terrorism and those that attack America should be brought to justice quickly and efficiently. The United States should be proactive in such matters.

Governor Johnson supports the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign country and believes that the United States should protect that right militarily if needed."

Sounds like an interventionist neo-con to me

I recall many saying the same thing about Rand

This is boilerplate language for Republicans.

This is GREAT news!

I've been hoping for years that Gary Johnson would throw his hat into this race.

This is a good day for the Paul campaign and a better one for the tea party movement. They may be competiting for votes and donations, but they are working for the same cause and that is a great thing.

If Gary can get some real numbers behind him, the primary debates are going to get very interesting. It will be helpful to have more than Dr. Paul on stage pleading for fiscal responsibiity, for peace, and for an end to our empire.

We are painting the GOP and Obama into a corner. They are the ones who are for war, we are against it. They are the ones to be satisfied with cutting 30 billion, we want to cut a trillion. They all want to continue down the road to a conquering police state, and we want our freedom back.

Things could not be lined up in our favor better right now. Don't reject Gary Johnson due to petty differences. He has a more tempered message, but he will attract new people to our cause.

Gary Johnson announces for president

Former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson said today he is running for president in 2012.

Johnson, a Republican who was governor from 1995 to 2003, made his announcement on the steps of the State House in Concord, N.H. On Twitter a short while ago, his staff tweeted for him:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2011...

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We still don't know everyone who is running

But we now know there's at least ONE good candidate running!

If Ron Paul runs with Jesse Ventura as his running mate

then Ron Paul has a chance.

Stop floundering and lets push for that.

Having Gary Run Helps Ron

The more people who hear Ron and Gary's message, the better for America.

We all know if Gary runs he is going to step aside if Ron has a chance.

So instead of worrying about another liberty minded person on the stage we should be worried about the other 10 Neo-Cons who are going to be getting their message of slavery and force out every question they get.

What we need is Lew Rockwell, Judge Napolitano and Peter Schiff to join Ron and Gary on the stage. The more the better!!

Not necessarily.

To illustrate why, imagine money bombs done in one month for 5 awesome Liberty candidates.

Let's say $30,000,000 was raised.

Let's say Ron got $18 m, with the remaining $12 m split among the other 4. The other 4 would average $3 mil each.

You see my point, I hope.

It spreads our limited resources too thin.

I'd rather RP get all the money. He will need $50-$150m to compete, maybe more. We shall see.

But I DO like the idea of allies on stage with him. There is strength in numbers, and RP always is a voice alone crying in the wilderness. He'd like the company.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

I wouldn't expect either of

I wouldn't expect either of them to step aside. If they both run, they should both run with the intent to win.

One should only step aside if

One should only step aside if their chances are slim. Imagine if it was only them two with sufficient polling result!? Then let them have at each other to see which one has a better idea for liberty that people accept.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

I agree. Competition and

I agree. Competition and choice is not just for tennis shoes and coffee.

Whoever

Polls better and has a better chance to succeed should lead the charge. I would most like to see Ron take on Obama, which is more likely then Johnson, but having the message spread from two podiums is a huge advantage. Who would have thought we would have progressed so far in two years. All because of Ron accurate portrayal of a real message of liberty. Good Luck to the both of them.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

And Gary has an excellent

And Gary has an excellent record in office for his own defense during his run. Imagine a debate between Gary and Donald or Mitt..

Stand aside, then enter

The gentleman that he is, Dr. Paul could choose to stand aside for Gary Johnson as a fellow liberty candidate. If Johnson wins the nomination -- unlikely -- then Paul would probably support him.

If Johnson goes down -- more likely -- then Paul runs Independent with the support of everybody who is by that time disgusted with the R and D nominees.

Reason #4 on my list:
http://dailypaul.com/161949/21-reasons-that-ron-paul-should-...

it all depends

on how Johnson handles himself relative to Ron Paul.
I certainly hope he doesnt pull any shenanigans in any public situation against Ron.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

I met him and he's a nice

I met him and he's a nice guy. Ron is also a nice guy. A presidential run is a competition. I expect nothing spared by Obama to keep his office, so I expect Gary to pull no punches once he starts campaigning hard against the president. Gary knows a thing or two about commitment, winning and politics.

Velveeta

I was talking about Johnson dealing with Paul, not the president.
vs. obama? - Agree, ABSOLUTELY, pull out all stops.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Who competes to lose?

Don't expect anything less than all out competition this time. It's more important now than ever.

Gary Johnson is a PLUS

Two libertarians in the primary will be a tremendous sign of strength and will influence the debate even more. It is also tangible evidence of Ron Paul's rise (a senator and now a second libertarian in the prez race), which will be recognized and raise Ron's stature. I just saw Ron speak at GOP clubs down here in South Florida and the soul-searching it launched was priceless.

For me, I will support both until Gary drops out.

Addendum!

I meant I saw Gary Johnson speak at GOP clubs in South Florida recently and the soul-searching was priceless. When it is not just Ron it is even harder to dismiss!

The discussions between Republicans and the Q&A were great: Libya, marijuana, immigration, etc.

Soul-searching? Neo-cons soul-searching?

The horror... the horror...

I agree 100% Mr. Blumel..

I don't see Gary as stealing fire, but making Ron's fire look more mainstream.

(and I miss Florida!)

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I'm looking forward to having

I'm looking forward to having more liberty candidates in the debates... just think... we'll have double the time!

I welcome more people with common sense in the debates.

And I believe Gary could be a great one to raise the common sense issue and deflect allot of the criticism if Ron Paul is out there on his own.

It's simple. Gary will

It's simple. Gary will generate votes from the liberal, anti-war, pro-abortion hippies whereas Paul will gather the conservative, anti-war, anti-abortion Christians. The problem for Johnson is that there aren't many "liberal, anti-war, pro-abortion hippies" in the GOP. Those positions are completely inconsistent with one another. I used to really like Gary until I learned about his stance on those things. On the flip side, he would overturn Roe v Wade and make it a states rights issue. But since he has already admitted he is "personally pro-choice", he's hung his own noose. Paul, on the other hand, has both topics in the bag. He would bring all the troops home, AND supports a Constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion or put it back into the state's control. Bada-bing, Bada-boom.

I can't get behind this guy.

I can't get behind this guy. I don't have one iota of faith in him. My gut tells me he's not the real deal. Just another politician saying things that some people (us) want to hear.