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Donald Trump is officially a draft dodger. Deferments helped him avoid the Vietnam War. (Pics too)

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APRIL 28--Despite Donald Trump’s claim this week that he avoided serving in the Vietnam War solely due to a high draft number, Selective Service records show that the purported presidential aspirant actually received a series of student deferments while in college and then topped those off with a medical deferment after graduation that helped spare him from fighting for his country, The Smoking Gun has learned.

During a TV interview Tuesday morning, Trump--who spent his high school years enrolled at the New York Military Academy--said, “I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number. I’ll never forget, that was an amazing period of time in my life.”

He went on to recall, “I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to.” The word “deferment” was not mentioned by Trump during his chat with the morning show hosts on WNYW, the Fox affiliate in New York City.

However, Selective Service records reveal that Trump, the fortunate son of a multimillionaire real estate baron, took repeated steps to avoid serving in Vietnam.

By the time his number (356) was drawn during the December 1, 1969 draft lottery, Trump had already received four student deferments and a medical deferment, according to military records on file with the National Archives and Records Administration. An extract of Trump’s Selective Classification record, seen here, was provided in response to a TSG records request.

In fact, the December 1969 draft lottery occurred about 18 months after Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, where he studied business at the Wharton School. So, while claiming that he would “never forget” being at Wharton watching the draft numbers being drawn, the 64-year-old Trump seems to have misremembered, as candidates are fond of saying.

Trump obtained his first two Class 2-S student deferments in June 1964 and December 1965, when he was student at Fordham University in the Bronx. He was briefly reclassified as 1-A--or “available for military service”--in late-November 1966, but that classification was switched back to 2-S three weeks later.

Another 2-S deferment is dated January 16, 1968, just months before his graduation from UPenn (to which he transferred following his sophomore year at Fordham).

Following his UPenn graduation, Trump--no longer qualified for a 2-S deferment--was again briefly classified as available for service on July 9. However, three months later, on October 15, his classification was switched to 1-Y, which was given to men deemed qualified for military service “only in time of national emergency.”

The 1-Y classification came a month after Trump underwent an “Armed Forces Physical Examination,” according to Selective Service records, which note the results of the exam as “DISQ.” While the military records do not further detail why Trump was granted the 1-Y deferment, a 1992 biography of the businessman by journalist Wayne Barrett reported that Trump received a medical deferment following the September 17, 1968 exam.

Trump’s 1-Y classification stayed in effect until February 1, 1972 when it was changed to a 4-F classification (which covered registrants not qualified for military service). The change in classification was likely prompted by the military’s December 1971 decision to abolish the 1-Y classification.

The Selective Service records also include a copy of the registration card signed by Trump in June 1964, 10 days after he turned 18. The possible future Commander-in-Chief, it turns out, has birthmarks on both his heels. (3 pages)

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Pictures are available on TSG's site above ^ . So much for creating hype for himself to make his "brand" grow. The left pressure is on Trump from an early start. Ron will put him in his place starting May 5th.

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If Trump were an advocate for PEACE

this wouldn't matter, and I would applaud him.

When, however he advocates "going in and taking our oil" (ahem.... who exactly would go in???), or "taking on China", (can you say ...draft?), then it changes the picture. THAT's where the hypocrisy lies.

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Quite frankly, I applaud

Quite frankly, I applaud anyone who survived being drafted into the vietnam war. I'm sure there are many who would gladly have wished they did the same thing. What's up with the Trump bashing anyway?

Trump Avoided Draft with Hair Deferment

So Trump avoided slavery...good for him.

But I think the point is that a jingoist like Trump who wants to "teach the Chinese a lesson" and make those A-rabs sell us oil cheaper, thus implying the use of U.S. military force if necessary, is a hypocrit (like so many other republicans warhawks).

Ancient history

So Trump has done one thing right in his life. I still support a certain man who signed up when threatened with the draft.

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I don't blame him for not wanting to be drafted

But he should be honest about why he did not want to be one of the more than 58,000 Americans killed in that war.

He seems to want to send Americans to the middle east, where they are in danger, to fight for oil. At least he honestly says he wants to fight for oil. Don't get me wrong, I think he is an idiot, but I think he is just using this whole political thing for free publicity. He is getting a lot of it.

Most young men in college at that time did the same things Trump did to avoid getting drafted. The more money you had, the easier it was, of course.

If you look at most of our "leaders," such as Clinton, Bush, Gore, Cheney, they all tap danced around getting sent to Viet Nam during that time. What they all did was typical for young men facing being deployed to war against their will.

I Don't Think People Today Realize What The Penalty ,

Was for dis-obeying the federal draft orders, which always began by the words,"Greetings".

It was jail time and possible unemployment for life if a young man decided he didn't want to go into the military.

It was severe involuntary servitude, which many paid for with their young lives, and if you check out the 13th Amendment was totally unconstitutional !


Picture of Ron Paul in his US Air Force uniform

I am sending that picture out along with that article on Trump to all blood thirsty republicans out there..

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Good for him..

So he dodged a draft that would have sent him to fight in a war that had absolutely NOTHING to do with the freedom and liberties of Americans? A "conflict" that had nothing to do with the defense of this nation?

I guess we should hate Arlo Guthrie too. He was deemed not moral enough to go and burn womens and kids houses and villages after being a litterbug.

Arlo Guthrie-Alices Restaurant- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GguFmYRryz8&playnext=1&list=P...

We can't pick and choose...either you are anti-war/anti-empire, or you aren't. Just because it's "the Donald" doesn't change anything. If I was alive and awake at the time, I hopefully would have found my way to Canada instead of fighting and dying for absolutely NOTHING.

Trump's memory may be

faulty but what is reccounted in this article is not "draft dodging". A far more accurate thing to say would be that he did not volunteer.


Another Amazing Fact Seems To Be...

How many healthy young men with rich parents didn't have to serve !

Can you say bribes to the right people?
I thought you could.


I'd avoid a draft too... but this is good news the electorate

will not be happy about.

I dont know about you guys.. but RP seems to have some easy opponents... Trump has no real chance when people start actually contemplating their vote a year from now.

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I don't think much of Trump

But avoiding the draft during Vietnam was pretty smart. If he wasn't such a saber-rattling doofus ('we should attack Libya and take their oil') he could use his avoidance of military conscription as a badge of honor. He could claim he would be the peace candidate, and he proved it by never joining an organization devoted to killing people.

Trump is an idiot.

A few years back I was at a

A few years back I was at a family function... somehow the topic of military drafts came up, so I conducted a brief informal survey among maybe a dozen or so guys.

I basically just asked a few questions. I forget the exact wording but was something like the following:

Would they be willing to risk their lives and possibly die to defend one of the countries in the following war scenarios:

- South Africa versus Zimbabwe? No takers.
- Ukraine versus Poland? All said "no."
- (A little closer to home) Brazil vs Peru? Again, all "no."
- How about right across our border in Mexico, whatever country you dislike the most versus Mexico? Still no volunteers.

Turns out, they all basically agreed with each other that if anyone was going to die or risk their lives to defend these other countries that it should be the people of those countries, not the people of our country.

Then I asked what if we just found out a few minutes ago that the US was being invaded by either Russia or China and that they were landing on our East Coast very close to where our family event was. Someone said they would send their wife and kids inland and that they would head towards the coast with their guns. They all agreed. Send the women and kids to a safer area, get some weapons and then get ready to fight. Same answer with or without a formal process of joining the military to help defend, they would just do it because it was the right thing to do.

I pointed out that these are the reasons why the draft is unnecessary. Nearly all men are willing to voluntarily defend our country. What most are not willing to do is put their lives on the line to defend other nations or to attack other nations aggressively while under the guise of "defending our country."

The draft is not needed.

Furthermore, there is nothing in the constitution authorizing the government to force people to join the military. Sure, Congress can raise and support armies, for no longer than 2 years,(voluntary armies) but they cannot force people into them. The 13th Amendment even prohibits forcing people into involuntary servitude.

Anyhow, here's Ron Paul's position on the Draft:

Paul Introduces Legislation to End the Draft

Reject Draft Slavery

A Draft Violates Individual Liberty by Ron Paul

The Military Draft and Slavery

While I do like *some* of the things Donald Trump says, I am not a Trump supporter. However, on this issue I do not think it is right to be so highly critical of him for avoiding the draft, especially because the draft is not constitutional. Nobody should be sent to their potential death by our government in undeclared, unconstitutional wars that we should not be involved in.


voted this up. i think its a

voted this up. i think its a no brainer that the draft is just dumb but theres such an awful stigma attached to draft dodging. i personally would be proud if i were able to slip by and encourage as many friends and family to do the same. no way in hell im going to fight some foreign war under the guise of peace.

Brilliant Socratic method at your family event!

Thanks for sharing - that'll come in handy.

As for Trump, well he talks like a military interventionist tough guy. Of course, he doesn't know the first thing about war first-hand. They usually go hand in hand.

Coward and without faith...

The Holy Bible does mention that those that do not feel up to fighting could go home until they garnered up enough faith and courage again to go back and fight.

RP could of fled the country but he did not, he had more courage and faith.

I know doctors trained in the military and they are now the biggest war lovers since they are out now. ie. they say they are against war but all they talk about is how awesome the weaponary and efficiency of the technology are. They know much about the killing potential of weapons of war and all the vehicles, delivery devices, ships, planes, etc.

I think many doctors have a secret 'urge' to be Rambos lol


Don't want to burst your bubble...

but seriously who cares? I don't think many, if any on this site agree with the draft. Dr. Paul has said that looking back on it, he wouldn't have gone to Vietnam.

Don't lower yourself to attacking the character of those who oppose RP. He doesn't stoop to that level and I think that is absolutely admirable and really helps distinguish him from the rest of the politicians and talking heads.

People like Sean Hannity absolutely disgust me and I'll point that out at any given chance, but attack the hypocritical policies, not the individual. If Trump came out and rallied for reinstatement for the draft, then I'd see what you're saying as valid. We need to stay focused on the issues, it's there that the battle will be won or lost.