Because you haven't seen a REAL Christian in a while...
If my fellow Christians out there can answer to this... we all know its true... a Christian is a follower of Christ. We are "called" to Resemble Christ...
This is why alot of ppl now are thinking of Comparing him to Jesus... he's simply
An AUTHENTIC Christian :)
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Dudes no one is asking you
Dudes no one is asking you to
a) Believe in Jesus/God
b) Follow the Christian Religion
c) Join Organized Religion
No one is saying
a) Ron Paul's is a Christian Message
b) His message is ONLY for Christians
All I Am Trying to do is
- Help some understand why SOME think Ron Paul = Jesus... It would be more accurate for them to say he "Resembles" Jesus because he is a Christian and that's what Christians SHOULD Do...
I was merely pointing out he appears more Authentic then most self professed Christians we've seen in the U.S. of A. (these days) and the FACT he doesn't wear it on his sleeve makes it look even more so (the Authenticity)
P.S. Don't Try to send me to the Huckabee Board... I Loathe the man for being the biggest Fraud, Corrupt and Copy Cat bum I've ever known. He reminds me of G.W.B. Jr. so much
P.P.S. I hope you understand that I was simply trying to explain something for certain folks, no one is trying to make Christianity a focus in this campaign. Much like I don't try to tell ppl to believe in God, keep your own beliefs about his non-existence to yourself. We can talk about the philosophy of both of them but lets not try to attack each other... were all in the same boat here.
P.P.P.S. My last name really truly i swear is Saint, I'm not trying to be some Christian warrior, its my last name... just explaining this so some ppl don't think i've got some "Agenda"
Can we get religion off this board?
Go to Huck's board.
Ron Paul's message of freedom is for Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, Mormons, Jews, Scientologists, Agnostics, and Atheists also.
The message is simple. Your relationship with your creator, is a personal and sometimes private one, that freedom for all will protect for you.
America is sick, call a doctor! Dr. Ron Paul.
I have already flagged it..
It does nothing for the Campaign.. at all.. I spent the morning canvesing.. way more productive than the site these days.. the posting here is getting very off topic.. sad really.. I get so frustrated with this place I feel like hanging it up so I go out canvesing to forget about it.. I used to stay up all night prowling here for obscene and sexually eplicent posts that were bieng posted...
I wish people would get some sense about them on which is important like canvesing.. goos replys to poeple etc...
Why some people think Ron Paul IS NOT Jesus
t is abhorant to equate any man with Jesus if he was who those who follow him claim to be. If Jesus was both God and man in the flesh then you are equivocating God with Ron Paul.. This statement lacks any religious sensistivity and is a derogatory statement to thier faith as well as the logical underpinnings of Ron Paul.
Ron Paul does not equivocate individuals with other individuals in the personality sense.. Liberty is Liberty to each individual and respects each as a separate entaty with powers and rights afforded to him by the Creator. Not equivocating him to the Creator is foundational to John Locks On Freedom message.. I.e. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -- i.e Each person is intrinsicly endowed by the Creator.. Notice the distinction! There is no equivocation so your questions about RON Paul equating to Jesus is absurd and shows a lack of understanding of logic as well as the philosophy that underpins the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of independence. The topic is abhorant to all Christains and Non Christians if you think about it.. because if we are the same individuals with no distinction then we create the rights and thus they can be abrogated by us.. very very very wrong...
Dr. Paul says,
http://www.christiansforronpaul.com/statement.htm
WHAT?!?!
You worry about an honest union question yet this thread can go for days!
You people ever heard of a distraction?
I don't flag because I respect opinions, but if I did....
Peace out
Give me liberty or give me death.
Authentic Xians are xool
I totally agree with the premise. I happen to be a Christian and a pastor but I'm also a big fan of separation of church & state. The forefathers suffered under a church-state and never wanted to do it again. I know a lot of fellow Lutheran pastors who would be OK with the removal of "In God We Trust" from money and "one nation under God" from the Pledge, on the principle that it's never the government's job to preach. Christ didn't say, "Give to Caesar what is God's."
Personally, my blood boils when I see a candidate using his faith like credentials or being pressured into doing so. Dr. Paul's a breath of fresh air. He refuses to buckle to that pressure, while remaining unapologetic about his faith. That's perfect balance.
Martin Luther nailed it: "I'd rather be ruled by a competent atheist than an incompetent Christian." Religion's not the issue, record is. In my opinion, RP is head and shoulders over the other guys on both.
God
god is a myth, get over it......The jesus freak thing will be used against any republican that runs this year...At least our campaign was smart enough to not use that name in our christmas ad..religion is a personal thing and has no place in politics
God is not a mith, but...
I agree with the rest of your stament.
"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." - Romans 12:18
Brilliant article that explains why we love Dr. Paul:
http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/farber-r1.1.1.html
Myth – Get over it
You obviously do not know anything about the history of this country. It was built on Christianity and our founders were Bible believing men.
John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]
Alexander Hamilton:
Hamilton began work with the Rev. James Bayard to form the Christian Constitutional Society to help spread over the world the two things which Hamilton said made America great:
(1) Christianity
(2) a Constitution formed under Christianity.
“The Christian Constitutional Society, its object is first: The support of the Christian religion. Second: The support of the United States.”
Samuel Adams:
“He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” ["American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]
John Hancock:
“In circumstances as dark as these, it becomes us, as Men and Christians, to reflect that whilst every prudent measure should be taken to ward off the impending judgments, …at the same time all confidence must be withheld from the means we use; and reposed only on that God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human counsels are but foolishness… Resolved; …Thursday the 11th of May…to humble themselves before God under the heavy judgments felt and feared, to confess the sins that have deserved them, to implore the Forgiveness of all our transgressions, and a spirit of repentance and reformation …and a Blessing on the … Union of the American Colonies in Defense of their Rights [for which hitherto we desire to thank Almighty God]…That the people of Great Britain and their rulers may have their eyes opened to discern the things that shall make for the peace of the nation…for the redress of America’s many grievances, the restoration of all her invaded liberties, and their security to the latest generations.
["A Day of Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer, with a total abstinence from labor and recreation. Proclamation on April 15, 1775"]
"religion is a personal
"religion is a personal thing and has no place in politics"
Dr. Paul: Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.
Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html
You are a myth
Our whole country was based upon the undeniable fact of God's existence. Read your history. Also, RP did use the word God in the recent ad.
Religion is different from a knowledge of God's existence. Religion is the way you act in regards to your beliefs about the ultimate cause of all that exists, or in relation to your views of meaning, morality, destiny, and origin. This obviously differs with many people. But as our own history and foundational documents show, God's existence is evident.
Completely disagree
The founding documents reflect the BELIEF in God's existence on the part of the founders. "Nature's God" or "Divine Providence" is not a signatory to the Declaration, "he" is merely referenced for political purposes, which was perfectly appropriate when denouncing the head of the Church of England, George III. He is referenced nowhere in the Constitution itself, however it presumes in its language the existence of inalienable rights, which were expressed in the Declaration. No human document could possibly prove the existence of a supreme universal being.
Religion is based on belief, not objective knowledge or actions. Actions and organizations within a Religion are expressions of the core beliefs, and exist to promote and sustain the beliefs. A non-practicing Catholic, for instance, might consider himself a Catholic because he believes in the core doctrine, but he sleeps in on Sundays and watches football, and can't remember who the current pope is. His actions don't change what religion he is.
One thing we can agree on is yours and my freedom to believe as we choose. That's the reason Ron Paul rules.
Sam Marsh
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The Ron Paul Revolution is a
The Ron Paul Revolution is a war on globalism, its a war to protect our borders and defend our liberty's, its about humanity and living in a co-existent world. to admit the world isn't perfect, but it can be as long is we are told how may become perfect, and not just affirmed that it can.
as the egyptians would say,
A-men!