Abolishing the Federal Reserve

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Here's a short list of links for resource sites and projects in various stages of development, but which help support and convey Ron Paul's views and position involving the Federal Reserve:

Based on extensive research over the last 6 years, I also contend the public has neither had the practical means, nor opportunity to this point, to actually learn the truth about central banking's methods and approach (see:Ignoring the Truth: Why Our Churches and Schools Are Failing at: http://www8.clearlight.com/~nation/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=34... ).

Consequently, if you have the time, you might want to read, A Crisis in American Leadership (Part Three) at: http://theenemyslies.com/crisis3.aspx .

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the most viable 'avenue' . . . now!

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David, I don't know whether your intent is to deceive others within the forum or you're just confused but, once again, if we're going to engage in dialogue, it's virtually imperative you get your facts straight. Contrary to your contention that Ron Paul's 'current legislation' (H.R. 2755) entitled, the Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act of 2007 "already flopped like in 2003", it's merely "in the first stage of the legislative process" of further deliberation by the House Financial Services Committee ( see http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2755 ).

Theoretically, but in respect to your proposed 'remedy' to eliminate $9 trillion of national deficit through 'non-endorsement', if our entire population of 300 million people were to participate in your plan, on average, each individual would have to successfully 'remedy' more than $30,000. Even if that were possible, David Walker, the U.S. Comptroller General's most recent estimates suggest that unfunded (future) commitments including Medicare, have already pushed the $9 trillion to between $40 or $50 trillion, raising the average citizen's obligation to more than $165,000. This is why, according to Walker, at some foreseeable point "the federal government's not gonna be able to do much more than pay interest on the mounting debt and some entitlement benefits." ( see http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/01/60minutes/main2528... ) Consequently, this is precisely the reason Congressman Paul's legislation is so vitally critical to our nation's wellbeing.

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Email a House Financial Services Committee Member

Here's a template anyone who'd wish can use to contact a representative at: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=House_Committee_o... . Simply click on the 'Source Watch' link to determine whether your representative is a committee member. If so, you can visit their individual website to obtain an email address (normally towards the bottom of the page).

    to: (representative's email address)
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    Att: Representative _________________
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    Dear Congress(man or woman) ___________________ ,
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    First, as a concerned citizen and constituent of your congressional district, I'd like to thank you for the work you're doing as our elected representative. I'm writing to you however, because of concerns involving the Federal Reserve's role and relationship to national government.

    Consequently, because you're a member of the Financial Services Committee, I'd like to direct your attention to H.R. 2755 ( http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Federal_Reserve_B... ); a bill proposed by fellow Congressman Ron Paul that's under current review within your committee.

    Because of this legislation's importance to our country's strength and independence, I'd ask that if you're unable to support or otherwise facilitate its passage, you'd convey your reasons to me for not doing so.
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    Sincerest regards,
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    (Your Name)

"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32

anti-constituent you

Dear Brian McCONNELL;

I don't know whether your intent is to deceive others within the forum or you're just confused...

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"Ron Paul's 'current legislation' (H.R. 2755) entitled, the Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act of 2007 "already flopped like in 2003", it's merely "in the first stage of the legislative process" of further deliberation by the House Financial Services Committee..."
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As with HR 2778 in 2003 - still in the first stage of proposal. Look for yourself:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c108query.html
Search for "HR 2778"

and compare its stage of development to the repititious bill you call current legislation:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html
Search for "HR 2755"

If you are endorsing private credit from the Fed then you are endorsing the Fed. Period. So it does not matter really how many times Ron Paul puts a bill to abolish the Fed on the Floor, it will die the moment it gets there if people like you are in the majority - basically anti-constituents working against what Ron Paul is trying to do.

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"Theoretically, but in respect to your proposed 'remedy' to eliminate $9 trillion of national deficit through 'non-endorsement', if our entire population of 300 million people were to participate in your plan, on average, each individual would have to successfully 'remedy' more than $30,000..."
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For every one person who redeems the national debt by redeeming lawful money in the amount of their paycheck, that is one more constituent in support of abolishing the Fed. And your posts work against that by supporting that people continue endorsing private credit from the Fed.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/08/24/magazines/fortune/eavis_citi...

Good thing your sophistry to support the Fed is more difficult to understand than the truth. With instant and seemingly infinite "liquidity" available it is hard to say where that critical mass is, when the Fed will falter. - What percentage of people need to start non-endorsing private credit to make a difference. But it certainly will be long before the entire national debt is paid off one paycheck at a time. Meanwhile I can assure you that you pledging yourself chattel on the table of false balances, as security behind all that "liquidity" is doing nobody any good except bankers.

Regards,

David Merrill.

a more viable remedy

Well, here we go again, David. Though I don't know what it's going to take to make you see reason, I'll give it another try nonetheless. Even as the Freedom League's document of Sept./Oct.1984 which you appear to cite as the basis of your proposed ‘remedy’ concludes:

    "The way to bring it all down is to attack the Federal Reserve System and its banking cohorts by demanding that private credit be redeemed, or by convincing Congress to abolish the Fed."

Note that it suggests enlisting either of two attacks. Since you never seem to actually articulate or explain just how to 'redeem' what's currently a $9 trillion debt, but only disparage those like myself who support and contribute to Ron Paul's own efforts to 'abolish the Fed' . . . I'm kind of curious what other tricks you know (if any).

"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32

examining two avenues...

Exactly.

1) "...convincing Congress to abolish the Fed."

That flopped. Take a look for yourself.

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c108query.html
Search for "HR 2778"

and

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html
Search for "HR 2755"

You are in error to call the legislation "current" - because it has already flopped like in 2003:

"The Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act of 2007 - current legislation proposed by Rep. Ron Paul."

- found at http://theenemyslies.com/resume.aspx

2) "...demanding that private credit be redeemed"

That is what one does when they non-endorse their paychecks. They withdraw the presumption they are the bond for the fractional lending as if they were bankers for the Fed.

Both of these avenues are working in conjunction with one another. As people quit endorsing private credit, and begin redeeming lawful money, the national debt is redeemed by that same amount. Furthermore, this starts forming a constituency for Congresspersons like Ron Paul who put bills forth to abolish the Federal Reserve Bank in America.

In other words if everybody is signing endorsement for private credit from the Fed, they are not supporting Ron Paul's bills to abolish the Fed. Their signatures endorse the Fed; the exact opposite. In any situation, one would look at the signature over any lip service given.

Regards,

David Merrill.

P.S. You said:

"Since you never seem to actually articulate or explain just how to 'redeem' what's currently a $9 trillion debt, but only disparage those like myself who support and contribute to Ron Paul's own efforts to 'abolish the Fed' ."

Pointing out that direct sources are better than Internet commentaries is hardly being disparaging Gospelnous. And if you are endorsing private credit from the Fed, you are the reason Ron Paul's bills flopped - which is hardly supporting and contributing to his efforts.

As shown by the commentary from the member below, it is not that difficult to understand.

remedy

The remedy from the "elastic currency" of the Federal Reserve Act was enacted within the Act itself and is still in full force and effect today. It is found at Title 12 U.S.C. 411.

It has been amended only one time since 1913 to accomodate the gold seizure.

And even here already there are responses that clearly indicate it is not too difficult for people to understand how to implement the remedy.

http://friends-n-family-research.info/FFR/Merrill_PublicMone...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1054706869308133588

Regards,

David Merrill.

P.S. For instance, this member gets it:
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"Pay-off the 9 Trillion?

On August 25th, 2007 Matthew Duane says:

Greetings,

Hello, I been reading some on this issue on another thread and have also checked the public money file and I have a few questions at the moment if its possible. Firstly, the premise is, as I understand it after reading the exerpts to the Rickman and the Ware cases respectively, is that USNotes were never repealed and are still lawful money. However they were just dis-continued in printing in 1971. So now United States notes serve no function that is not already adequately served by Federal Reserve notes according to the Treasury.govs FAQ's.on Legal Tender. According to this, if their were USNotes, they would be in the form of Fed. Reserve Notes.

With The conclusion being the only difference between Federal Reserve Notes and USNotes are the voluntary endorsement or non-endorsement of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors Credit offer that is ones paycheck? An exercise thereof of ones right to contract?

If thats the premise, this is probably a pretty important issue which will have to be addressed if lawful money is ever to return. Its the peoples choice if its upto individual contracts. That picture just became clear to me, what a interesting situation. I see the reasoning, the legislation Dr.Paul tries to pass is receiving no support by the other representatives (among other things probably) because the other representatives see the people endorsing the Federal Reserve Credit which tells them its what the people want.

If USNotes are redeemed then the banks could no longer fractionalize the debt because of the Constitution. One last thing, It just came to me. I was to ask about the National Debt then I began to think of the withholdings from the paychecks. Would this make the withholdings lawful money and therefore able to pay down the National Debt? Because otherwise it shouldn't be withheld, or one would get a full return at least.

Thank you for your time, take care

Matthew Duane"
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For direct source information about two of Ron Paul's attempts to abolish the Fed - both of which flopped because of no constituency click:

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c108query.html
Search "HR 2778"

and

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c110query.html
Search "HR 2755"

Much better than xxxxxpedia commentary.