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60 Minutes Plans Hit Piece on Sovereign Citizens Movement

Here's an excerpt from the DDN article that shows how concerning the content and bias if this 60 Minutes episode is.

A preview on the “60 Minutes” website shows Paudert’s body in the street, and says: “Anti-government U.S. extremists who don’t pay taxes and ignore requirements like Social Security cards and drivers’ licenses are on the rise. Called sovereign citizens, some have become violent and the FBI considers them a domestic terror threat.”

Dayton Daily News Piece Detailing the Upcoming 60 Minutes Episode and Vendetta of Its Featured Guest

The officer's father seems hell bent on directing his personal pain toward the men, women, and children who consider themselves sovereign. I pray he can find peace and turn from this misguided path.

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All I can say is: "That

All I can say is: "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, l....it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Declaration of Independence..

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Oracle

Can you get yourself on Coast to Coast am with George Noory.
People are going to want more info on this subject, this show would be perfect.

The Kanes were innocent!

Dear fellow Ron Paul lovers, this is Jerry Kanes widow and Joe Kanes stepmother. Jerry, Joe and I all loved Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the ONLY politician I have EVER donated to. In 2007 or 2008, one can check and see that Donna Lee Wray donated two times, two $100 donations. Did I do this because I am Anti-government? No, I did it because the principles Ron Paul stands for are Pro American, which is very rare and wonderful. I need your help and his, this is Urgent. Please go to www.JusticeforJerryandJoeKane.com You will see with your own eyes that my family never was at the traffic stop. The WMPD killed the wrong people. Please see this web site, click on every video, then pass this on to everybody. Thank you very much in advance!

Wow, I hope justice is served.

Peace!

Free includes debt-free!

Here's the rub I have:

the idea that some simple combination of words or actions (or inactions) can exempt us from the system devised by those who would rule us is irresponsibly naive.

Our rulers rule by force or threat of force, irrespective of our natural rights to life, liberty, and property, so why would they respect some weirdo who stands up to them and cites arcane legal principles they have never heard of?

For every "sovereign citizen" who's beaten the rap there must be scores who have been slammed to the ground, cuffed, convicted, and thrown in the hoosegow. I would be happy to be wrong about this but I have an immense distrust of governments and never expect them to act honorably.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

Oh,

the Kane incident again! This whole thing has bothered me in so many ways. I had so many questions when the police cam first aired online. Just how did the officer end up in the road? He is clearly shown running towards the grass, and the other killed officer is in the culvert ditch in the grass when their bodies are found?! Why does Kane look so much heavier than recent (at the time) photos wherein he had lost a lot of weight. Why is there no audio on the police cam? ETC...

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There is no such thing as Sovereign Citizens.

People who believe that they are obviously do not understand Foundational Law which gives birth to all Law, including contract law.

There is no such thing as a Sovereign Citizen, they should have picked up more books instead of guns.

I reserve the right to govern myself.

Exactly!

The Media Labels Them Sovereign Citizens, Well, to Label Them!
It is a misdirect by The State Controlled Media to change the Sovereignty Quest into a misnamed Sovereign Citizens "movement".
Probably some attorney coined the phrase Sovereign Citizens to muddy the waters.

I haven't met any Sovereign Citizens. The media regularly labels freedom seekers Sovereign Citizens just like they label Libertarians anti-government, isolationist, racist.

The only time I have ever seen Sovereign Citizen is in The State controlled media. It is clearly a psy- op to try and get us to adopt a completely wrong paradigm changing word.

Luckily, Inception doesn't work on me!

The Oracle

off topic

For the same reason bad comedians shouldn't perform behind grocery stores, sovereigns shouldn't post their ideas on the internet.

Until these people abandon their ridiculous beliefs and start making sense, they are going to be an easy target for anyone writing a hit piece on the idiots of the far right-wing. I only hope the nut ball they interview doesn't have a Ron Paul sign on his front lawn...

Sovereigns, do not rejoice. This does not mean you have gained any traction, you were just the easiest target.

I do hope they investigate all the money Tim Turner stole from his gaggle of true believers

While I agree and see the

While I agree and see the legal basis for most of the Sovereign citizen's stand points, we need to distance ourselves from the extreme radical fringe of this movement. I know some of the members here knew the Kanes and may say differently, but I do believe the out right slaying of Paundert and others over a traffic stop is tantamount to murder. Where is the rule of law here? Even if the officers were acting unlawfully under 'color of law' to falsely imprison and/or violate contract law and commit fraud, with no violation of common law on the Kanes' part as a Sovereign argument may go, this did not warrant use of deadly force.

As for painting any one related to this movement or interested in the legal research they are doing as domestic terrorists, well, yes. This is tyranny. This needs to be stopped. Remember that this election cycle is going to require us to tread carefully. The MSM and the propaganda mill is already in full swing to try to stop Paul's recent triumphs. Do not aid and abet this leviathan.

There is no compromise when it comes to Liberty. To meet in the middle is to limp into half of your shackles.

The slaying was cold-blooded

Associating sovereigns, many of whom are heavily motivated by the non-coercion principle, with that is a blatant attempt to deceive the public into fearing those who are liberty-minded. I fear for how this seems to be moving toward drumming up public support for (/silencing an outcry against) targeted oppression of sovereigns.

Defend Liberty!

Always Remain Peaceful When Approached By Tyrants

The Boy in The Kanes Incident breached The Peace. It is very hard to stand there peacefully and let them steal your truck like they did to me last week but you cannot fight their wrong with another wrong.

You must be extraordinary Christians when dealing with possessed Children of The State (Lucifer).
Eventually they will answer to you in "your" court.
FYI (The courts of The United States are not "your courts"). You must summon them to your common law jurisdiction to explain their actions.

Usually they cannot answer for their tresspass against you, not a peep.

The Oracle

I Withdraw The First Sentence in My Above Comment.

Sorry I did not have the facts correct. I read about this last year in the State Controlled Media shortly before becoming a guest of The British Army myself. I never followed up to investigate further.
Sounds like there are some cold blooded killers roaming your town.
Don't expect justice from their employers. They don't work for us. They work for The Crown occupiers. Killing American Nationals is ok because they declared us The Enemy long ago. When King George vowedd eternal war against The American People he was not joking. The permanent state of martial law set up after the Civil War was just the beginning of the Crown Bankers occupation. By the 1930's The Crown Bankers (Bank of England) had taken over U.S. Government completely and then stole all the money the American people had foolishly deposited in the banks, then the U.S Government crooks gave the American People's money to The Bank of England (federal reserve).

Look, we are a conquered people living in servitude to foreign masters. We are far worse off than the people in Iraq or Afghanistan, who at least know their country is occupied by The British Empire!
Most Americans cannot believe The British are still here and that millions of Americans willingly serve the occupiers in secret.

The British Crown's martial law courts will provide no relief to an inhabitant of America who was killed by Crown Officers.

Not until We Americans Establish our own Lawful government can we do much about these murderers who occupy our fifty countries.

A grand jury would be the highest form of government in this case. (there is no higher form if government)

If you want a remedy you will have to form your own court and try the killers. U.S. Government is not even a government, it is just a foreign Corporation occupying America. If you don't want the troops of The British Crown Corporation running amock in the land killing Americans, then get your grand jury together and go ahead and try them. I will gladly sit on any such jury if asked to do so.

The Oracle

The boy in the Kane incident breached nothing

Read my post above Sir. I find it sad how people would actually believe anything on a dash cam that came out 41 days after any incident.

very slanted. Basically

very slanted. Basically anyone who disagrees with being a slave is a domestic terrorist.

Another Off Topic

piece that could affect Ron Paul negatively.

Carry on.

Plan B

Never show compassion for whoever the majority might decide to bash. It was so long ago that the MIAC report tried this kind of bashing for Ron Paul supporters. We have power now. We don't have to worry about the lot of those who don't.

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