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Are they setting Ron Paul up so the economy crashes on his watch? discuss

We are not a gullible group of supporters.. we are intelligent.

Think Roosevelt and the "New Deal"

Ask Why is the mainstream media putting RP front and center?

Of course I think we can revolutionize America before we lose it... but if you think about it..

If he becomes president then the libertarian movement leads.... and what better than the libertarian movement being front and center so the media can call us social darwinist when it all comes tumbling down.

This would be perfect for the IMF and World Bank to set up the NEW DEAL and a trade union would be easily implemented in the west.

The mass public does not understand economics and when it crashes they will hate whoever is in charge regardless. If the media uses RP as a pawn then they could set up RP when they commit fraud to bail themselves out again.

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Greenspan knew

Greenspan sure knew when to cut and run.

It has crossed my mind that whoever takes the reigns will be on a horse that bucks real hard. I thought the same when Mr. O, Hillary, and Mr. McCain were going for it.

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When it all comes crashing down, our only hope for

survival will be Ron Paul in the White House to be there to try to prevent the government from turning us from hard times to chaos and then to living hell.

If either Obama or a GOP neocon is in office, then expect the crash to happen anyway, but instead of recovery, we will have permanent malaise and misery. That's because they are too stupid to know NOT to try to "fix it."

Also, did you think that the "crash" is engineered perhaps and that with RP in the White House, there is no incentive to crash because it then won't be used to institute the Orwellian state?

another person who thinks the

another person who thinks the presidency is there to save us.

sorry but you're wrong.

i'm not agreeing with the topic that maybe we need to worry about him getting elected, but neither is my desire to see him go as far as he can motivated by the need for a president to save me during the great fall.

You can't have the NWO untill

You can't have the NWO untill you end the fed... remember that.

“One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” Plato

So we should not vote for him becuase he might win?

Ron Paul is the only hope of cushioning the crash, saving what is needed, and showing the road to recovery.

those are your words not mine... i'm a libertarian we like to

ask all the questions

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.


The GOP thinks Obama is unbeatable. He has the media, the race card, and some really big donors behind him.

That's why the would-be frontrunners are either declaring non-candidacy, or are not in the race yet.

The media is giving Ron the spotlight. That's where he wants to be, spreading the message. It doesn't matter if he wins. Remember that. Winning is only a side issue: the MESSAGE is the real issue.

As long as the Doc is on TV, he is doing what he set out to do. Spread the idea of liberty.

Once the idea of liberty takes hold, the people will elect a president worthy of that idea, be he Dr. Ron, Dr. Rand, or someone else we don't even know yet.

If so, the GOP is wrong.

The Dems thought Bush the Lesser Evil was invincible, which is why a nobody from Arkansas was able to waltz into the Offal Office when the economy turned down. Before that, there was Carter. But Bush Sr's ratings were soaring after the Smack-Down in the Desert. Mr. Obama's ratings only bumped up a little when he killed the boogie man.

It's the economy, stupid.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

Obama's Stimulus WAS the 21st century's New Deal

Obama's Stimulus WAS the 21st century's New Deal and its failed magnificently. This year, a new round of banks are likely to fall, emulating the collapse of 1933 that spawned the Emergency Banking Act and the FDIC.

Don't worry about Dr. Paul getting hit from Day One with civil rights stupidity recycled from Rand's campaign or heroine addicts, unite!

By this time next year, the issues will be narrowed like a laser pointer to the crumbling economy, and Dr. Paul will be prescribing some tough medicine.

I expect things on the ground to be much different going into the convention. We'll see whether the yellow-bellied cowards in the RNC will turn away from the oncoming train wreck and embrace him.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

I'm sure Ron can use his

I'm sure Ron can use his presidency to teach Americans the truth about economics.

Plus, Tom Woods would be an UNBELIEVABLE press secretary... Could you imagine Tom teaching the American people everyday the truth about our economy and how it works?

Talk about an earth shattering moment in time that would be!

The banks did this when

The banks did this when Jackson was President. They triggered all sorts of sell-offs attempting to collapse the economy.

Yes, this and the false-flag mentioned below are very real possibilities. Unfortunately, most of Paul's supporters still haven't acknowledge the "conspiratorial" side of what is happening, Paul has not done so publicly nor others such as Schiff and Woods, but it has been a curiosity whether they are just playing some mild politics here in order to keep from scaring everyone off.

One cannot prepare for a situation which either in ignorance or denial he failed to consider.

If the economy is going to crash

Which it is.

I want Ron Paul as president.

He would eliminate the IRS and FED.

He would save this country.

But we don't want our

But we don't want our "revolution" to be co-opted, which could easily be accomplished with the media and poor times.

I gotta agree with Rush Limbaugh on this on

"We're $14.5 Trillion in debt? I'd say we're broke now, and have been!". 5 years ago, the word "trillion" was hardly used, even in astro physics. Now, it's a household (and senate) word!

alan laney

first of all

First of all Ron Paul will win this race no matter if NWO banksters want it or not.
Second of all I will worry about things after victory.

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They'll be lucky if they can keep it going that long!

It crashed in 2001, it was only monetary magic that gave the illusion of health.

Since 2000, one-fifth of the economy is gone

25% of jobs are gone

It takes $2.60 to buy what a Dollar bought in 2000.

The economy is on monetary life support, how long can it last?

Free includes debt-free!

More likely...

...Is that they might be setting him up to win the GOP nomination, and then destroy him with allegations of racial bigotry.

Or the liberal Democrats may do that before he has a chance to win the nomination.

If the mainstream media can dehumanize Ron Paul the same way they have Patrick J. Buchanan, Ron might survive the slander, but end up being politically marginalized from now on.

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not going to lie

I'm not going to lie, the thought has crossed my mind.

However, we can't be totally down about it. If that is the true tactic, Ron Paul can confirm everything as well, as long as he plays his cards right and remains truthful to the people.

I guess it comes down to just how smart the American populace is


i'm buying seeds

A true flower can not blossom without sunlight and a true man can not live without love.

If the Banksters thought Ron Paul would win

They would crash the economy immediately.

It Won't Crash on His Watch

Unless it crashed during the first week or so it won't happen on his watch. If it happens that quickly, nobody with half a brain would blame him... which means the entire media would likely blame him. LOL. Seriously though, folks, how could drastically reducing spending cause the economy to crash?

think about it.. a society addicted to spending their way out

does not know he is helping them byu making cuts... all they see is short term

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Drastically reducing spending will be very painful

It will take some time to recover from the unemployment jolt (just think of the millions dependent on or employed by the fedgov). We'll have to re-claim a manufacturing base.
Anyone, including Ron Paul, will have to be straight up with the American people. Fiscal responsibility will be painful, but much less than our children will go through if we do nothing.

Undo what Wilson did

Well, possibly

I definitely think this has something to do with the reason that NOBODY wants to run for the White House on the Republican side. They ALL see it coming and don't want to be the last one standing in the room.

BUT I think Ron is the ONLY one that is "covering his A**" on this in that he keeps PREDICTING this very thing over and over again. He says straight out that we are heading for a terrible depression and dollar crisis..... so if it comes, he looks pretty damn prescient. Depending on how much time he would have in office, I think he could help to avoid some of the pain..... but, of course, then nobody would know what he prevented and would just complain about all of the cuts he made.

He is a brave, brave man. We must TRULY all pray for this man every day. He is David confronting Goliath, and in real life, David usually gets crushed.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!

It's a double-edged sword.

The very conditions that make Ron Paul seem like a sensible choice to more and more people also pose the greatest risk to the liberty movement.

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

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I trust Ron Paul and his very smart financial

and academic supporters have thought about this long and hard before he chose to get in the campaign. No one can know exactly the situation in January 2013 that he'd inherit. But the Austrians are best at projecting ahead based on a set of given circumstances. RP has to have a game plan.

Education is still the foremost plan. If people can see the circumstances and understand the implications, they will be able to accept the consequences knowing that it's better to lance a boil soon rather than wait until infection kills the patient.

on the bright side of anyone

on the bright side of anyone on the planet who would know what to do if it crashes, it's Dr Paul. I just worry about the spin the lamestream media would put on it. He would have to make tough choices and I think the walking zombies are so hand fed propaganda they would panic.

foreign policy

They can also initiate a false flag attack and blame it on his non-interventionist foreign policy, claiming that he weakened our security and defense systems.

The could try it but their chance of success is slim

Heaven help the people who would injure American citizens under Ron Paul's watch.