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DraftJesseVentura.com

We rolled out the "Draft Jesse Ventura" website over the weekend and WOW!  Over 930 pledges in just a day and a half.

There is a lot of support out there for Jesse and for good reason.  Jesse is honest, unafraid to speak out against the status quo, has held a political office in the past and loves his country.  At this critical time in our nations history I can't think of much better political qualifications.

To encourage Jesse to run for any Federal office in 2012 please visit http://www.DraftJesseVentura.com.  Or also see the facebook page for this event here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Draft-Jesse-Ventura/

...and lets see if we can't get Jesse to run in 2012!

DraftJesseVentura.com




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Jesse Ventura for Seante or

Jesse Ventura for Seante or VP!

Hey Trevor

Karen Kwiatowski is running for Congress, and she could use some help (hint, hint). ;)

I just added you to her Facebook group, and here's her website:
http://www.karenkforcongress.com/

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Thanks for the info. I've

Thanks for the info. I've always liked her and now I'm taking a closer look. So far so great. :)

You're welcome

I'm actually in the 9th district now, but I lived in the 6th for a long time, and will be helping out with her campaign.

Also, I recently spent some time in Baja and now understand why Ventura lives there half the year; aside from the military checkpoints and the restrictive gun laws, that place is way freer than the USA.

Karen is rock solid

Check out her writings on LewRockwell.com. What a offset to Cantor (neighboring district, I think) she would be in the House.

LOL

Yeah, her and Eric Cantor are night and day. Actually Cantor, Goodlatte, and Griffith all make me absolutely sick.

I just lost my lunch!

It was a good day! I attended the shuttle launch and had great talks over lunch with friends about Ron Paul and Liberty.

THEN I SAW THIS HEADLINE! BLAH!

The people I was with today liked Trump but now will support Ron, however if I were to mention Ventura they would stampede away quicker than the mass exodus I witnessed in Titusville after the shuttle was launched into space this morning.

Jesse is an entertainer. That is all he is. Sure he can talk a good game about not trusting big brother, but he did not leave Minn. in good economic shape at all. He did not run again because he was such a disaster that he had zero chance of being reelected. By the end he was viewed as nothing more than a sideshow. In fact, when he is asked about economic issues he looks like a deer caught in the headlights. He has no grasp of these things at all.

Running for federal office, IE: POTUS, is for the big boys, who understand financial policy. Jesse is much better equipped for B-rated cable shows where he does not have to answer tough questions.

But if you meant draft Jesse for Federal office in Mexico where he actually lives most of the time, well then I am on board! :)

Ron Paul 2012 - It's Almost Here!

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All I will say in response to

All I will say in response to this is that ten years ago I knew absolutely nothing about what is going on in our country. I was totally asleep. I don't know if your claims are true (about the kind of job he did) but I do know Jesse has been seeking answers and knows a lot more now than he did then just as I do, and I'm certain that includes economic issues. If you watch the video on the website you'll see he is talking about the Fed. He could be an major ally in congress on this issue.

Couldn't Dr. Paul select an Independent as a running mate?

Didn't Lieberman run as VP? He has been a Democrat and an Independent. Can't the presidential candidate pick whomever he wants? In my opinion, anyway, his son Rand would be the best pick.

Yes, he can choose anyone

You may remember there was lots of talk about McCain possibly choosing Leiberman. But, a potential running mate is seldom chosen before the nomination is sewn up.

What more proof do we need than this thread

... that some of Ron Paul's worst enemies are Daily Paulers?

Thanks

Subscribed and done.

I think Jesse would for me be the most complete candidate, that are aligned with what I think is most important.
Since Ron brings a different perspective I think a team would be most desirable.

Jesse is not afraid to bring up anything and he shows he is learning all the time.

Having said that, advertising this here on this site might be taken as a bit rude, I surmise by the site owner Michael. Just my guess.

Jesse has already stated unequivocally,

he will not run as a Republican and it would be a disaster for Ron Paul to run as an Independent. I just don't see it happening Trevor.

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and that's fine to feel that

and that's fine to feel that way. But let me add... that's not what this site is about. I wish people would go to the site and read the description. It's pretty clear that isn't happening.

I think I know what the real problem is with me....

Other than the link on your site to one that pushes a Ventura / Paul ticket!!! (And you DO use discretion here, if it is your site... you certainly wouldn't link to a site that liked Jesse that was connected to an arian movement)

My problem is that I think Jesse is out for Jesse. He LIKES attention, he LIKES to be in front of a camera.... He is totally inconsistent in his philosophy (or perhaps naive) and he has CONSTANTLY tried to ride RP's coat tails.

He wrote a book called "Don't Start the Revolution Without Me" RIGHT in the middle of the last RP campaign.... which QUITE coincidentally used the word Revolution. But Jesse did not REFERENCE Ron Paul as any kind of inspiration for the title.... Oh No... he just thought that up all by himself, and it was pure coincidence.

He spoke at the RON PAUL convention, and NEVER credited Ron Paul, but spoke ONLY about himself. At the time I thought it was the HEIGHT of rudeness.

He brings out his latest book, and to increase SALES, he makes the statement that he would be happy to run with Ron Paul in 2012. NO invitation from RP, by the way. Again, all about JESSE, or BOOK sales, or to get a REACTION and some good press. Incredibly rude and inappropriate.

If a group of people encourage Jesse to run for office.... it should ONLY be ON HIS OWN as an independent. He will get the typical 1% that independents get (just like Gary Johnson has now).... and he can talk all about himself 24 hours a day (OH..... except for the 6 months that he's in Mexico. Not QUITE sure how he's work that with a Washington schedule).

SO, I guess my problem is that with YOUR site as a "rah rah" forum for giving Jesse the "stroking" that he so desperately needs.... he becomes a loose cannon. He gets himself all puffed up and barges into other people's parties. I worry about the public....as they so love a "Rambo", I worry about Jesse himself and what he will do, since he has no sense of appropriateness or decorum... and most of all I worry it will hurt Ron Paul.

So, there you have it. I know that now that you are on line and have done all that work, you're not going to stop. But I am MOST discouraged and worried about this.

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

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1.) Linking to someone who

1.) Linking to someone who wants to suggest to Ron Paul that he have Jesse as his running mate is nowhere near close to linking to an Arian website. It's ridiculous to compare the two.

2.) He spoke at the Ron Paul convention. That's a great point and it illustrates the fact that he was INVITED by Ron Paul.

3.) You're trying to spin his glowing endorsement of Ron Paul on national media into something negative. Go to the website and watch the video. He says Ron Paul needs to be president because he is the only honest guy in congress who is doing what is right for our nation. And you want to criticize him for that? I think you're trying way to hard. As far as increasing book sales goes Jesse already gets all the national media publicity he needs and he does it all without any help from Ron Paul and always has.

4.) If a group of people want to encourage Jesse to run and he decides to, Jesse will decide under what party he runs and for what. Not anyone else, not me, not you, not Ron Paul and not a website that merely suggests he try to run with Ron Paul.

I cannot TELL you how damaging it would be

to link Jesse Ventura with Ron Paul.

I know, I know..... I have started this response 3 times and stopped but I cannot help myself.

I think Jesse is a NICE GUY. I like that he has a long term marriage. I like that he is "different" and unafraid.

But we are finally turning a corner on getting people to take Ron Paul SERIOUSLY, and linking him with Jesse would eliminate ANY progress that has been made. The MEDIA WOULD HAVE JUST WHAT THEY WANT.

Photos of Jesse "the body" Ventura in his pink tights would be in all the papers. OR they could just go to recent interviews where he is in his indian coat with his long hair. Now I DONT CARE how Jesse dresses.... but just look at those on THIS FORUM who are criticizing the suits that RP is wearing in this game of politics!!!! Jesse PURPOSEFULLY looks odd and quirky. It is his IMAGE, but it is NOT what DR. PAUL needs is we are trying desperately to gain credibility with the MASSES.

THEN the media would zoom in on the fact that he lives in - the dreaded - MEXICO - for half the year. Actually they wouldn't HAVE to emphasize it, because HE brings it up every chance he gets in order to get a REACTION. Again, I think he should live wherever he wants (unlike some on this forum who feel that any US citizen who lives outside the country must be disloyal). But POLITICALLY this is a BIG downer. It MIGHT not be so bad if it was Canada, or Italy, or Switzerland....... but it's MEXICO, during a time when the Immigration issue is HOT.

And..... OH WAIT..... even BETTER!....recently he has been proudly announcing that he and his wife are "going to become Mexican Citizens"!!!! Now, let's leave out the fact that he hasn't even investigated the process and has no idea what he is talking about...... he is PROUDLY SAYING that he is going to pursue citizenship in ANOTHER COUNTRY, and what country???? MEXICO..... a name that sets off hot buttons in half the population right now!

Jesse is a nice guy, he is a great entertainer, and he loves getting people out of their comfort zones and getting reactions. BUT HE SHOULD NOT BE LINKED TO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!! It would be committing suicide for our movement JUST at the time when we are turning the corner!

I would be MUCH more comfortable if this was in "Off Topic". YES, the website isn't saying they want to link him with RP, but it is done by one of the original RP supporters, and THAT will make news.... and there is no denying that it has been MENTIONED (by Jesse) that he would LIKE to link up with RP... so a connection will be MADE, whether RP makes it or not! AARRRRGGGGHHHHH

There..... now you can flail away. But I'm RIGHT!

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

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I don't think I'm linking him

I don't think I'm linking him to Ron Paul. Maybe you can explain to me how I am and I will certainly consider your opinion.

http://www.dailypaul.com/164911/draftjesseventuracom#comment-174

JESSE himself has publicly "linked" himself to RP in the major media. AND..... the link above is below with my take on the "other" links on your site..

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

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Jesse hasn't linked himself

Jesse hasn't linked himself to Ron Paul. He is merely trying to encourage Ron Paul to take what he thinks is the right path, which is to run as other than a Republican. I don't think that's the right path and I doubt Ron Paul does either, but I don't criticize Jesse for speaking his mind.

A Websites Name that Undermines its Purpose

Draft? Is someone drafted to be a vice president? If so, by whom? By people other than the candidate for president?

If support for person X to be someone's running mate is sought, then seek it, seek support. The seeking is discussion of the person's ideas and his relationship to his ideas.

Why seeking *is* discussion among people is because if otherwise is performed, a wedge is created. That wedge is where? Between the candidate for president and people who are speaking and doing for him. Those people comprise what, comprise whom? The running mate. The wedge is between those two people (read: Paul and nonRP-choosen VP) -- and the people who support those two people, a support because of its environment, intervention, is thrust, a force here that is coercion. Need less to say, those acts affecting Congressman Paul indirectly then directly were without his permission and are corruption to the degree he addresses them, acts he didn't perform. And acts he didn't perform that he addresses should be nonexistent so that he addresses acts he did perform and can continue to deliver the message freedom.

Therefore, discuss VP candidates all day long, every day. Create websites, make polls, think on whomever. But to draft -- if drafting means intervention? No. Congressman Ron Paul will choose who he'll choose. The decision is his.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton F. Dutton

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The site is not about asking

The site is not about asking Jesse to be VP for Ron Paul. It's about asking Jesse to run for some kind (any kind) of office. Please go to the site and read the description.

Well, ya know

when at the bottom in "other sites you might like" it has a Jesse Ventura/Ron Paul 2012 website, with nice photos and posters of the two of them, and 100,000 "votes" to push for them to run together.......it's a pretty damn clear connection!

Trevor, I like you and have always considered you one of the true pioneers of this movement. PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

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I link to other peoples

I link to other peoples efforts to get them to run together because they are pushing this effort to get Jesse to run for office. This is an effort to get Jesse to run for office. I think that would be a good thing. There is no way this site could hurt Ron Paul. There is simply no connection made by the site or Ron Paul that shows Ron Paul as endorsing Jesse in any way.

I understand we all care about protecting Ron Paul and I certainly do as well but I think it's harmful to be somewhat paranoid to the point that we stop ourselves from doing other good things. Just my opinion.

agree 100%

love Jesse. but dont do this.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

Clarification

Thank you for the clarification, Trevor.

School's fine. Just don't let it get in the way of thinking. -Me

Study nature, not books. -Walton F. Dutton

Pledged

I see JV either going big, or going home. I like his bold approach, and a few of us were big advocates of a Paul/Ventura ticket last time around.

I couldn't see him running for anything less than VP. He has already stated that he's put in 14 years of public service, and doesn't have much interest unless RP goes Indy.

I would rather see them run together, than split the votes among supporters.

If not, I like Judge Napolitano, a lot..

Why the new interest in JV, Trevor? I thought you were on working on the RP campaign.

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Well... IF Jesse were to run

Well... IF Jesse were to run and he ran for President as an Independent I see that effort as a failsafe for the Ron Paul campaign. And by that I mean just in case Ron Paul does not win the Republican nomination he will have somewhere to go and stay in the race. Granted he would have to be Jesse's VP but I know Jesse respects Ron Paul and Ron Paul would have massive influence if they were to win under that ticket.

The main reason Ron Paul didn't continue on as an independent last time had to do with ballot access. Ron Paul simply couldn't be on the ticket in many states. If he folded into a Jesse Ventura ticket that issue would be gone. Also, Ron Paul would have appeared in all the national debates he could have at that point and so the objection of not being able to get into the debates would also be gone.. and perhaps together they COULD get into some of the remaining debates.

That doesn't mean I necessarily want Jesse to run for President. He would do very well by us all as a Senator as well.. but whatever he does is clearly up to him. I just think he is honest and wants to do his best for our country and I really respect and admire that.

Plan B is always good.

Am I correct in assuming that sore loser laws would prevent RP from running for Prez as an INDY if he didn't get the nod?

That would be my ultimate swan song for him. Smack 'em around in the GOP debates, and if they didn't give it to him, then he could say that the party has lost their way, and go indy. Someone even suggested that he could say "The party left me, I didn't leave the party".

I really hope he has some sort of contingency plan.

I have always liked JV as well. There would be no way, the media could ignore him. IMO He may not be as knowledgeable as RP, but he makes up for it with true grit.

I met JV's former campaign manager here in Austin, when he was here running Kinky Friedman's campaign. Dean Barkley. Nice guy.

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I think it's not that he

I think it's not that he cannot run as an independent, it's that by the time the primaries take place the ability to enter into the race is closed off in some states. So if he is not already on the ticket in a state like Texas he will not be on the ballot during the election. It's too much of a disadvantage and this is why Ron Paul did not continue after losing the primary last time around.