Blowback in 1979 from a 1953 coup? ron paul said it in the debate

When he talks about blowback there is really a much longer and bloodier story to be told. Here is a brief history of the blowback that has occured from both sides as a result of our interference in Persia:

1953: CIA and British MI-6 help overthrow democratically elected Mossadegh and install Shah

1953-79: U.S. provides Shah’s troops with weapons and training.

1968: Robert F. Kennedy wants to supply Israel with F-4 jet fighters and is assassinated by Jordanian-born Sirhan Sirhan

1973: U.S. backs Israel in Arab-Israeli war which leads to 1st Arab oil embargo against U.S.

1979: Revolution. Shah overthrown. Hostages taken. 2nd oil crisis.

1981: 1st Gulf of Sidra incident. Two Libyan jets shot down.

1983: U.S. sides with Christians in Lebanon. 241 marines killed in Lebanon.

1984: Anti-ship mines planted in Red Sea

1985: CIA-backed group uses car bomb to kill Islamic leader in Lebanon.

1986: Achille Lauro ship hijacked

1986: U.S. bombs Tripoli

1987: Iraqi missile attack on USS Stark as it sits in Persian Gulf. No big deal as we are now friends with Saddam Hussein battling Persian navy.

1988: Vincenes incident. Iranian jet shotdown by U.S.

1988: Pan Am Flight blown up over Scotland

1989: Two more Libyan jets shot down

1990: Iraq invades Kuwait. US defends Kuwait.

1991: Persia buys Chinese technology for enriching uranium

1993: Attack at CIA building. World trade center bombing

1994: U.S. backs Kremlin against Chechen Moslems

1995: U.S. levies trade embargo against Persia

1996: U.S. Congress budgets $18 million to overthrow Persian government. Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia kills 19 Americans

1998: US warplanes still patrolling no-fly zones over Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed by bombing and US blockade of medicine and food. U.S. troops still in Balkans. Two U.S. embassies in Africa are bombed and U.S. Bombs Islamic guerrillas in Afghanistan. Planet Hollywood bombed in Cape Town, SA. U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia.

9/11/2001: and the rest is more of the same except it’s only getting worse….

Some call it “blowback”, tit-for-tat, eye-for-an-eye, tooth-for-a-tooth, getting even or simply revenge. Whatever you call it, our founding fathers warned against becoming entangled in alliances and playing favorites that may ultimately cause retaliation.

From Washington’s farewell address: “So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions; by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill-will, and a disposition to retaliate, in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld. And it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation), facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding, with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.”

Whatever has happened in the past to get us into this terrible position is now history. We must now get Federal government foreign policy under control the and only man I trust to lead us out of this morass is Ron Paul.

The Shah tortured and killed a lot of people. We put him in power. If you go to Argentina, Chile, Cambodia, anywhere there were family who disappeared into an unmarked grave, there are long memories. No one will forgive the premanent loss of a family member. The hurt is life-long. The blow-back can definately be traced from 1953 Tehran to today. also Israel being created by Britain, still seethes and boils with many Arabs generations later taking up the fight. Look at Armenians still trying to punish Turkey..

It's amazing how history stupdifies people.
Thank God Dr. Paul doesn't live in the knee jerk reactionism of a day.
It's people who have not the scope of 6000 years of written history, who cower in the fear of a post 911 world, as opposed to the freedom and prosperity of the post 1776 one.

Gee, you reckon 1776 was blowback from maybe 5000 years of tyranny.

Read the book...

From Publishers Weekly

With breezy storytelling and diligent research, Kinzer has reconstructed the CIA's 1953 overthrow of the elected leader of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh, who was wildly popular at home for having nationalized his country's oil industry.

The coup ushered in the long and brutal dictatorship of Mohammad Reza Shah, widely seen as a U.S. puppet and himself overthrown by the Islamic revolution of 1979.

At its best this work reads like a spy novel, with code names and informants, midnight meetings with the monarch and a last-minute plot twist when the CIA's plan, called Operation Ajax, nearly goes awry. A veteran New York Times foreign correspondent and the author of books on Nicaragua (Blood of Brothers) and Turkey (Crescent and Star), Kinzer has combed memoirs, academic works, government documents and news stories to produce this blow-by-blow account.

He shows that until early in 1953, Great Britain and the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company were the imperialist baddies of this tale. Intransigent in the face of Iran's demands for a fairer share of oil profits and better conditions for workers, British Foreign Secretary Herbert Morrison exacerbated tension with his attitude that the challenge from Iran was, in Kinzer's words, "a simple matter of ignorant natives rebelling against the forces of civilization."

Before the crisis peaked, a high-ranking employee of Anglo-Iranian wrote to a superior that the company's alliance with the "corrupt ruling classes" and "leech-like bureaucracies" were "disastrous, outdated and impractical." This stands as a textbook lesson in how not to conduct foreign policy.

http://www.amazon.com/All-Shahs-Men-American-Middle/dp/04701...

'The South shall rise again'? It's been 142 years now, no?

taht believes this to be the case. The current regime in Iran rationalizes its brutality as not being like the weakLiberal Mosedeq and not easily overthrown by the Americans.

So, yes he is serious. Only Americans are ADD and can't remember anything, but the rest of the world doesn't forget any of this.

Israel is the biggest blow back these guys have been killed by the millions because of Israel you don't even realize how much terror they have spread throughout the middle east Israel puts out this shinny look but they treat those Palestinians when I saw that I swore to myself I could never give any type of support to that country and I refuse to be taxed to give them blind support
check out you tube those settlers attach old ladies when the soldiers are standing there hurt the kids the soldiers shoot to kill every Palestinian wrong there a terrorist organization in the middle east and it is call Israel.That like us colonizeing Japan and Germany after WWII it's totally against the Geneva convention

GREAT video - thanks - I hadn't seen that one!

aided in the torture and slaughter my family members, the story would be told for generations.

What is really sad is that most Americans have no idea what their government really does, and what it really is about.

America is sick, call a doctor! Dr. Ron Paul.

First, we overthrew their popular elected president in 1953. We installed a brutal dictator, the Shah of Iran. When the Iranians overthrew the Shah of Iran in 1979, we brought him to the United States so they couldn't get at him. That was the final straw that broke the camel's back. They retaliated by taking our hostages.

Some people have memories longer than a Simpsons episode. Especially when their families lives have been disrupted and their country turned upside down.

Is not all that long of a time, at least in my middle aged mind. I was stationed in the Middle East during the Hostage Crisis. It was obvious that we were not welcome, After the Shah was inserted by the CIA a ruling class grew,as did desent. When the Shah was overthrown, most of their wealthy citizens came to the US. Yeah they were still upset. I wonder what the 50 Rials I have with the Shahs picture is worth?

Some cultures around the world have a different sense of time than we do in the go-go West. In India, for example, it is very typical for court cases to be trying matters based on actions that occurred 150-200 years ago. The Sunni and Shia split in Islam that occupies so much of the attention of the modern Middle East is basically a fight over events that occurred 1300-1400 years ago.

So could blowback be based on 25 year old events? Sure. That is a very short moment in the East.