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So, when did the TEA Party die:?

You know I find it funny how the TEA party, starting off incredibly pursuing freedom and liberty, got swallowed up by the R machine. (emphasis on arbitrary letters)

The sad part is, I really didn't notice this until maybe a month ago?

Was there some major event that degraded the tea party? Or did people just lose the fire?

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It was fake from the start

Funded by the Koch brothers.

Embraced by the neo-cons.

Infused with the notion of Gott mit Uns.

Paraded with stooges.

It was a distraction and people fell for it. Now that we're in a new election cycle the TP isn't needed anymore and the deceived can go back to sleep after drinking tea.

We went to 2 of the "rallies" near our house a few years back and never stayed longer than 20 minutes or so. There were several oldsters walking around with tea bags hangin' like tampons from their hats. After the prayers and the God Bless America crap and praise for the "brave" men and women protecting our "freedoms" we left. It was weird....really weird.

Remember Glen Beck? Does anyone listen to that guy anymore....is he still on the air?

The TP never stood for anything but the worship of the state and the warrior-enforcer class and white America....with a few token blacks thrown in for the fun of it.

Kiss the flag, brother.....keep on movin'.

Do you remember seeing Rick Santelli speaking like some mafia guy on some COMEX floor (or whatever it was) babbling like "we've gotta have a tea-potty".....and then BANG....over night the idea of a "tea-potty" spread like a storm throughout the country! You want to tell me how in the world something like that can happen in a country full of politically lazy people?! It can't unless there were other forces behind the movement...in the shadows...manipulating the entire puppet show and it certainly wasn't the average, ordinary attendee of those tea-pee fests!

There's the 'tea party', and then there's the 'Tea Party'.

We are the Tea Party, the original. That which was spawned from Glen Beck, the 9-12 project, etc. was a knee jerk reaction from Obama care being passed, and Obama being elected.

They never had much wind in their sails as they were not tapped into the true source of the Revolution, Dr. Paul and his decades of being the voice in the wilderness.

Now that they've gotten a few people in office they're ready to go back to their Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly way of life.

They wanted to take our country back but could never told you who stole it. They wanted our government to follow the Constitution but couldn't, for the life of them, tell you what that meant.

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I think the death certificate says

it was still born.

I think we have been looking at a zombie this whole time.

first off, what are we talking about

these days people on msm are quick to point to ron as either the father godfather or grandfather of the tea party and admit that he started the whole thing... of course fox and RNC pumped a bunch of money into an attempted coup d'etat...
anyway back to the question...
i say the sentiment is still there with those who participated, but they felt that victory was achieved with the R swing last election.

When it was sold out

by the freshman (pretends) who renewed the patriot act.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey referring to ISIS

The "real tea" party moved on long ago

Move on to the next thing, just like the tea party in 1773 wasn't the last thing. Choose another name (ie rallying point) and let them hold the nothing they have. Do you think the founders always held that one event as the *end* thing? Pick another historical event and make it stick again.

The tea party was over after our money bomb finished before they even joined - they were always Johnny Come Latelies.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

I called the Death of the Tea Party in the Spring of '08

When "we" were still in charge of it.

The true death happened when it started.

You cannot vote or lobby (using corporatist tools) to gain anything other than more corporatism -- this includes the Johnny-come-Lately's.

Fortunately with modern Tech it's easy to prove that RP was the "Founder" of the Tea Party Movement or was the "elected" General -- as it was "we" the people who put him there.

Worse -- The Tea Party does not stand on the principles it was created on so now that the MSM acknowledges Paul as the "Father of the Tea Party" it's a moniker no one wants because of the funky four-some who headed during it's mid-anchor (Palin, Huckabee, Beck, and Mark Williams).

It died as soon as we set "political route to liberty" as the fallacious premise.

The "New Movement" which will not rise until after 2012 will be one of actual Free-Market Principles (entrepreneurialism and consumer-sovereignty) not Capitalist or Corporatist Tools (voting and lobbying -or- abdicating and bribery)

There's a photo Jack Hunter uses when he refers to Tea Party.

It was taken in front of the Michigan State Capital on April 15. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.csmonitor.com...

Was anybody here at that Tea Party rally? I wasn't. I didn't really hear of it until the Southern Avenger used the picture in his videos.

This is bigger than any one man or woman, IMO. It started with taxes and self-interest. Can we grow it into a celebration of liberty?

Free includes debt-free!

when it was

run over by the BUS.

First a determination should be made as to it's birth !!!

I find it to be closer to an abortion.

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To Me

The original tea party was an event, not a movement.
It was Ron Paul supporters doing a one-day fundraiser.

It was an expression of the freedom movement, and not the movement itself.

The use of the term to define a movement is a different use of the word, and those using it currently are not the freedom movement as such, although some who attend "tea party" events are freedom and Ron Paul supporters.

It is amazing how malleable the meanings of words can be under the influence of money and propaganda.

I was never aware that the Tea Party . . .

was a 'real' movement. I have not met a Tea Party person who is not neo-conservative (read: pro-war)--

I am sorry if there are those on here who have been involved with Tea Party groups that are NOT neo-conservative, but those I have met are definitely neo-conservative.

I never thought that it was much more than a media blip. The words have been tossed around until they mean nothing--

again, no offense.

One of the most strident warmongers I know (among my acquaintances) is very involved in a FB Tea Party group--

I know that anyone who mentions Ron Paul on there is immediately ignored.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

The Tea Party hasn't died.

The Tea Party hasn't died. There are lots of imposters claiming to be "Tea Party" people.

Don't let these imposters prevail. Attend every "Tea Party" you can, and use these gatherings to attack the GOP Establishment and the Neocons who try to associate themselves with us.

Use the Tea Parties to promote Ron Paul. Expose the phonies for what they are. Don't walk away defeated. Use the "Tea Parties" to educate the people about the phony Liberal/Neocon dichotomy.

A long time ago,

probably not long after it began.

The Republicans were in disarray, and they saw the Tea Party as the "wave of the future.
So, just as any criminal organization would do, instead of following what was becoming popular, they "got out in front of it", and swerved it to serve their purposes.

It was pretty easy when there were people like Palin, Beck, Bachmann, and dozens of other establishment hacks who were desperate to try to look like "populists" and shed their old falsehoods for "new falsehoods".
Then the establishment organizations like "Freedomworks" with Dick Armey, and "912" with Glenn Beck, and Tea Party Nation and Tea Party Express, came along with their "astroturf movement" that they tried to use as a launching pad for the sick Republican agenda again.

It was predictable, because there weren't a whole lot of real "Tea Partiers", but there were a whole lot of desperate hungry Republicans looking for a popular movement to co-opt.
So, that's what they did.

Thank you

Your wisdom is appreciated,I apologize for not getting back to our previous conversation, I have been very busy.I will still get back to it when I can get caught up.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I closed the Off Topic thread.

It's not there anymore.


Well I am very sorry to be so tardy in response my friend,I got a DOT ticket on my truck and have been working on fixing BS items to stay in business.I did not mean to blow you off and now I feel bad man.You O.K.?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Tea parties here were nothing more than R campaign rallies

Tea parties here in CT were nothing more than R campaign rallies. I swear, they queued up like pixie dolls and said the same thing as the last guy, over and over and over.

It was like a classic GOP contibution letter, "Will you support the GOP in its work for smaller government, lower taxes, and strong defense with a contribution today?"

Only difference was, they didn't ask for the contribution. Not while speaking, anyway.

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

I knew it was dead

when Sarah Palin got involved.

You're too hard on

the woman. I believe she is sincere, but lacks experience to relate who she really is.

She trys to please the establishment, as this is the trap of the STATUS QUO two Party system. Don't be CRAZY. You might look unintelligent to the name callers.

Why would ANYONE respect name callers ??????? To get elected??????

THE CRAZIES will be the ELECTION. The rest of the electorit is spoken for, the sides are drawn.

In my neck of the woods

I unfortunately blame the Ron Paul people. As soon as the neo's came out, our RP ran instead of holding their ground and taking command.

They don't understand that you have to form some common ground with neo;s and liberals and then keep influencing. We threw a fantastic tea party educating forum. We showed 3 short video's teaching about money and the poltical spectrum plus an outdoor protest.

Since one hard worker was a beck person, the RP people considered the cause tainted and went into isolation.

There are only a few RP people fighting, the rest seem to hand out dvd's or just do the Internet thing.

You don't "go along to get along."

You lead by example and people will naturally follow you.

We don't go along, we led.

The goal was to make sure we control the tea party in our area. We then didn't have enough firepower, people that would help, or other people to take the lead.

Hence, we lost and TeaGOP has the upper hand still. We gained some ground on this Davis election coming up.

We figure it will be a minimum of 3 to 4 years to get back where we were.