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Corsi: Trump Conspired With Obama To Neutralize Birther Controversy

http://www.prisonplanet.com/corsi-trump-conspired-with-obama...

As he prepares to release shocking new evidence and name the people who he claims were behind the forgery of Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate, author Jerome Corsi sensationally accused short-lived Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump of “working with Obama” to neutralize the birther controversy.
Appearing on the Alex Jones Show, Corsi said that he now completely discounted the apparent efforts of Donald Trump to force the release of Obama’s birth certificate, stating, “I’m completely convinced at this point Donald Trump was subterfuge, that he…. was working with Obama.”
Corsi explained how he was in contact with Trump and that Trump requested several copies of his book before it was released.
Trump’s role according to Corsi was to “beat the drums big” and craft a false resolution to the controversy in order to make the press “go to sleep” and get his $60 million dollar television contract with NBC, owned by General Electric, which is closely allied with the Obama administration.

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eligibility

obama will run in 2012..eligible or not .. if the econ seems to be on the mend its his to loose..nothing that corsi or the wild WND may dredge up will derail his winning..sad..the congress ..the courts... do not seem to see any reason to pursue the whole matter ..until a court order opens the files in hawaii to examine the contents this goes nowhere.. what may cost him/obama the election would be the jewish vote say in florida and ohio ..apparently he got 60% in 08 ..if he slumps to 49% analysts say he will be doomed ..the winner as a dem needs florida and ohio..now there are rattlings that bush ..3 may jump in.. HOW DOES RON PAUL POLE AMONGST THE JEWISH VOTERS???

Please change "birther" to "eligibility."

There's no such thing as a birther.

Using a negative label created by the corrupt establishment for the very purpose of discouraging serious discussion, actually does.

It's like jumping into their trap.

Semp: Actually the "Birther" terms was created by me here

on Daily Paul in 2008.

What I intended the phrase to mean is the opposite of how people are using it.

A Birther is someone who not only believes that Obama is not born here, but that by eliminating his Presidency that either all decisions made therein are null-and-void or that by the elimination of one corporatist candidate we are sure to get a free-market one.

A Birther is the Opposite of a Ron Paul Thinker.

The Ron Paul Thinker not only agrees with Ron Paul's 35 year three pronged stance: 1) End the Fed, 2) Currency Competition, and 3) Non-Foreign Interventionism but he goes one further and says, "If this is what RP is doing on Capital Hill, what would the parallel movement be at the street level -- would I use corporatist tools to undo corporatism or would I use free-market tools?"

The Gov't does not give you the tools for Revolution

Revolutionary Tools + Forward Thinking:
---1) Physical Uprising (a revolutionary tool yes, but one that has never brought lasting liberty)
---2) Non-Participation (worked for Gandhi yes, but not enough forward thinking to result in liberty)
---3) Consumer-Revolution + Non-Participation would be something new and thus avoid Einstein's Definition of Insanity (the merri-go-round we are on and been on for 200+ years)

I say after 2012 we SERIOUSLY try Option #3.

The reason I say AFTER 2012 is because you guys need to see the old method (using corporatist tools to undo corporatism) not work one more time before you will be "open" to change.

The Ballot Box and Political Pressure only produce more Corporatist Gas (never less). The Court System is seated by Corporatists (do I need to enumeriate theire non-constitutional positions?).

Voting (abdication of self-rule) and Lobbying (bribery) cannot produce enough Ron Paul's to save the day. #1 Because it's Hero-Worship (abdication of the Self-Hero) and #2 It's "their" tool "they" invented it (it cannot un-do "them" -- the "evil they").

Just some Thoughts.

I will vote for Ron Paul -- This will be the last-time I vote as I work with a very small group of people who "see the writing on the wall" and know WE CANNOT "ask" for a savior to defeat corporatism we must utilize the tools the market gives us (the market is us) to achienve self-rule.

I am always shocked that people cannot see the simplicity in that statement: Only by Individualist Means can we attain Individualism -or- Only with Free-Market Tools can we eliminate Corporatism.

How does this NOT make sense -- maybe there is something wrong with me?

BREAKING NEWS

You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=303181#ixzz1NQpEcUnV

Huff. Post, "Donald Trump Says Obama Birth Certificate Fake:...

Report [UPDATED]" "After nearly one month of remaining mum on the issue, Trump reportedly told WND that a computer expert assessed the document released by the White House and concluded that it was computer-generated and forged.

'There is certainly a chance that he was not born in this country,' said the billionaire, according to WND. 'Now if he was not born in this country, that means he can't be president. It's very simple.'" @ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/26/donald-trump-obama-...

guys, you really need to

guys, you really need to listen to this interview which took place yesterday (05/25/11)...the Bush administration officially contacted Kenyan authorities to inquire about Obama birthplace, so obviously they found nothing in Hawaii.

Corsi has an official answer from the Kenyan secret service saying someone tampered with their birth records, removing and changhing birth records regarding the year 1961.

Also the US INS (immigration and naturalization service) is on record saying they don't recognize Obama's parents marriage. Remember, there is NO RECORD of the Obama parents being married of living together.

Corsi is about to ask FBI to investigate the poor photoshopped electronic Birth Certificate, having one of the top world experts in scanning ready to testify about the electronic BC version being a fraud.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=303049

Cannot stress this enough...

The "Trap" which NCMarc and Michael were suspecting here: http://dailypaul.com/162945/breaking-obama-to-release-long-f... , was actually set prior to the issuance of the forged cert. Obama could have very well set himself up for Felony charges.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

I took it differently

I took their understanding of the "TRAP" to be that it would POSSIBLY be a method of silencing critics against Obamessiah.

If you don't mind, could you inform us (or just me, if I'm the only one that can't see it) how it's possible for BHO to be complicit in a felony with regards to this?

erschiessen: Yes I will.....

I will need to listen to the broadcast again and get you (and others) the segment where this is discussed (do not have time to do this today). It has to do with WND's mole discovering that the (forged) birth certificate suddenly appeared, when this person was certain that it was not in the files previously, as they had looked for it specifically. (The President ordering, or knowledgeable of, the criminal tampering or altering of Official Records).
Anyway, it is interesting that(t)rump did not deny Corsi's acusation, and only wanted to know what his (Corsi's) next move would be.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

okay, cool

Alright, I can see what you're saying, now.
I hope to have time for the interview myself, so unless you happen to stumble across an upload of just that portion it's okay to not ask you to do something that I would not do myself.
I just didn't smell what you were stepping in - and now that you made it clear, my olfactory senses have picked it up.
I didn't look at making a bogus COLB to be a felony before your post.

Who Thought Otherwise? Trump's Always Been A Lefty

I don't know how this flirtation with the GOP came about. He's a committed supporter of guys like Schumer, Rangel et al.

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

agreed

+ 1

& it's sheer insanity on the part of some Republicans to have supported this guys short presidential run.

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They're dopes!

But then, we knew that.:)

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"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." -- Joseph Goebbels

I am almost certain Trump brought this whole birther thing

out because he is on Obama's side, as well as those that control our country. Sad thing is we still have a President in the White House who is ineligible because both of his parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of his birth, especially since his father was not a U.S. citizen, and was actually a foreign student living in our country with no plans to become a citizen, not only that has Obama ever denounced his Indonesian citizenship, probably not, and that is how he was able to enter into other Muslim nations, such as Iran, Iraq, and others during the 80's, and early 90's, or he was in the CIA? In our country the Father of a child in a marriage is the one who determines the child's citizenship, it is not the mother, unless the father is deceased, or the mother does not know who the father is. McCain had to go through this during the 2008 election cycle, and our Congress determined that he was a U.S. citizen because both his parents were U.S. citizens even though he was physically born out of the states, and that his father was in the military serving overseas at the time of his birth, please read this, there was actually a hearing on on McCain's citizenship during the 2008 election:

"At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President".

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.

“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.
Here is the link to that above quoted info:

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/press_releases/release/?id=fd6...

What I want to know is why in the heck there wasn't a hearing regarding Obama on this subject? I will tell you why, the powers that be, and those that control this stooge have completely ignored our Constitution, along with our laws, and we have been complicite by not doing something about this ineligible President. I am not a birther, I am a person that abides by our Constitution, and the laws of our land.

great new Alex Jones/Corsi interview

Trump pumps Corsi for latest on Obama

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=303049

is Obama on drugs ? he thinks

is Obama on drugs ? he thinks we are in 2008

"The U.S. commander in chief wrote a brief note, stating:

It is a great privilege to commemorate our common heritage, and common sacrifice.

Barack Obama

24 May 2008

Obama was heard to ask what the day's date was, and while he got the month and day's date correct, he was three years off in the year."

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=302953

Corsi on AJ today.....

you need to hear this interview!
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The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

this issue getting bigger

this issue it grows bigger by day.
the video "Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY gets now over 50.000 views a day. People are spreading the word , the forgery is so bad it hurts.

Also "Corsi To File Criminal Charges Against White House Over Obama Birth Certificate"

http://www.infowars.com/corsi-to-file-criminal-charges-again...

It should have been obvious that Trump was a fifth column stunt

All anyone had to do was look at his $50,000 donation to Raul Emmanuel's campaign and who his publicist is (Emanuel's brother) and his other contributions to democrats to see that Trump was a fake from day one.

He sit the stage for the fake BC release, which the mainstream media jumped all over and which was quickly eclipsed by the fake and ever changing story of the bin Laden killing.

The alleged bin Laden corpse that was sent to Davey Jones locker helped further bury the BC issue and was oh-so-convenient for extending the Patriot Act. It also gave Obama a an approval ratings bump out of the DOA level, but it comes way too early to last until the actual election. That is not necessarily good news. The stage is now set for one or more false flag terrorist events and further military incursions to rally the voters around the puppet in chief.

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Actually I suspected this very theory

when I saw the pathetic fake BC that toppled the Donald. He just kind of collapsed. Took credit for making Obama release the BC and the curtain fell. If Trump wasn't in on it he would have blown the fake BC wide open-exposing it as fake should have been a slam dunk- sooo easy to prove. America is like a collective pro- rasslin' fan. It still astounds me that people actually swallow this cr@p they're spoonfeeding us.

In light of the new statements by Trump...

looks like he held his peace until he could get a credible analysis as to its authenticity. Looks like the glow of "killing" Bin Ladin is wearing off...

Just "release" the "facts" -- It wont matter what comb-over

did.

IF -- IF there are "facts"

Personally I don't care because Obama being born in Kenya when his Mother was American is a stupid rule for excluding a man from being President.

What do you think the air in Kenya makes one Perpetually Loyal to Kenya.

OH WAIT -- I get it. You guys think it's the President who holds "power" and not the Big Bankers and Never-named Super-Elite?

Well thne of course get Barack out (because of that reason) and then work to impeach or de-thrown the next Big Banker candidate -- Unless you also think that a Corporatist Tool (ballot box) can be used to un-do Corproatism?

I have swamp land in Alaska you might be interested in.

"Obama spent Millions to Get Kenya's New Constitution ...

Ratified"from Corsi's book, Where's the Birth Certificate? page 44 says:

"An investigation by three Republican congressmen, Representatives Chris Smith of New Jersey, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida, and Darrell Issa of California, has revealed the Obama administration secretly spent $23 million U.S. taxpayer dollars in Kenya to fund a 'Yes' vote on a referendum on a comprehensive new constitution that would increase abortions and ..." "open the floodgates and allow millions of dollars of additional U.S. government aid and private investment capital to flow into Kenya"

I think he is favoring Kenya!

Yogmama: If you believe that the President has Authority and not

the rich Bankers (like Ron Paul does) then yes; you must "vote" him out of office.

I guess it's because I'm "rational" and I know Obama is serving the Bankers well that I KNOW he is not going to be "impeached" out of office.

How much time during Ron's run last time did we waste (as a group) on Trutherness and Impeachment?

Like Ron Paul I "KNOW" the rich bankers control all important court decisions and control important outcomes through the election cycle.

I would like ONE PERSON on DP to argue how using a Corporatist Tool can un-due Corporatism.

Just one person!!

---Ballot Box is a Corporoatist Tool
---Court System is a Corproatist Tool
---Media is a Corporatist Tool

What is their "MAIN" vehicle of control?

It's in the VALUATION mechanism -- Currency

If you can control value you can control everything.

This is RP's goal (a goal that cannot be realized via political means -- at least it never has once in all human history).

Only by Revolution (violent, non-violent, or a mixture) and by Non-Participation can we achieve a "change" (historically the wealthy adjust to these tactics and still come out stinking rich on the otherside -- because historically we've never gone from a mono-currency to a comptetitive currency market).

the more you talk the less I

the more you talk the less I respect.

Sierra: Read John Adams quote you have there again

You cannot fix Corporatism by using the Corporatist Legal System -- you will ONLY get more Corporatism.

Do you agree that if we get Ron Paul elected president we do not have to Impeach Obama, right?

Is Ron Paul on the Birther banwagon?

Did it help that Ron Paul was the ONLY candidate that had to answer 911-Truth conspiracies during the debate when he had already said, many times, that he does not believe the Gov't was behind 911 -- Did that help him or hurt him?

What did the media do to Trump when he took up the Birther Stump -- A Stump that Ron Paul has already said he will not get behind -- Will it then help Ron Paul in 2012?

I DO NOT CARE about "specific" injustices that grow out of consumer-abdication -- What I care about is consumer-sovereingty which in the political arena begins with End the Fed and Non-Foreign Interventionism.

You seem to think that since the Birther issue did not prevent Obama from getting into office that it will work this time around -- even if Ron Paul does not support the "Birther Push?"

Ron Paul got 3% of the votes last time
---He was Anti-Truther
---He was Anti-Birther
---He ran on End the Fed
---He ran on Non-Foreign Interventionism

Maybe "this time" we can "push" his agenda on not trade on his name for our own?

Just a thought

What you fail to realize is most of the central bankers are

Israelis, or European, and not necessarily full citizenship Americans, most of them have dual citizenship, and that is why the founders wanted a person that was born to two American citizens to be eligible, they knew the banking cartels/evils of other nations would eventually take over America like they had Europe, and other nations. The way it stands now most in the current Administration, and Congress have dual citizenships. Does not sound good to me as an American born citizen.

What does that have to do with Corporatism?

And why is RON PAUL not behind this?

Maybe it is because the "evidence" is not there or it is not convincing enough for Ron Paul to get involved?

-OR-

Maybe he does not believe that getting Obama out and putting Biden in or some other Corporatist Tool will eliminate Corporatism?

"We" represent him in the media -- he was forced to answer questions that had nothing to do with his platform (last time): 911-Truth being one of them. Why was he asked this; because "we" went to his rallies with 911-Truth posters and when interviewed as to why we supported RP some of "us" said because they wanted to see justice and truth regarding why we entered the war.

None of which are why "we" were attracted to Ron Paul -- He has had the same exact campaign talking points for 35 years: End the Fed, Currency Competition, and Non-Foreign Interventionism.

I'm JUST SAYING that maybe we should focus on what "he wants" and not ride on his name for "what we want"

Maybe we could try something different -- something that uses free-market tools to un-do corporatism rather than use corporatist tools (justice system) to un-do corporatism.

It would be one of few times in history where the people used tools not given to them by the REAL power-holders to un-do a small group of power-holder representatives -- who (the latter) are always replaced (always historically replaced) with "NEW" power-holder representatives.

Ad infinitum

Or we could march forward doing what DIDN'T work last time -- "Fight the Machine with Machine Tools"

As Ron Paul does in Politics so we must do in the Free-Market -- he CANNOT do it all by himself. Universal Individualism is created by Individualists not Hero-Worshipers.

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this is the dribble we have come to expect from you...

"stupid rule"?

...you are not worth the time to explain it to you...

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Ecorob: You have lost every single debate we've ever been in

and THAT'S why you cannot "explain" things to me.

I made one simple argument and you are still reeling from it: 1 bad cop does not equal 900,000 bad cops rather 1 bad cop equals 1 fired cop.

1 bad politician does mean 535 bad politicians rather 1 bad politician equals 1 fired politician.

If ONLY people lived by this simple logic we'd have a free-society.

Answer this question: Can we eliminate corporatism using corporatist tools?

Draw from all of human history: Can you use the things the wealthy elite gave you as a means to overthrow elitism?

Draw from your childhood: Can you use the toys your parents gave you as a means to overthrow righteous authority?