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How would a person go about un-incorporating a town ???

Hello All
I need some help here.
The community i live in is a small incorporated town in Arkansas roughly 500 ppl. The mayor and city council do not do anything to help the people, and will not listen to or stay out of the affairs of other and serve no purpose that the county could not do as well or better at. i view them as cancer that must be totally removed, not just treated and left to return.
How would a person go about un-incorporating a town without the help or support of the town council or mayor.?
I wonder if a ballot initiative would work, but i fear that without legal expertize it would be thrown off the ballot.
also it would need to set up the water system & vol. fire department up as separate entities once the town is gone.

Any Help Anyone Could Provide Would Be Greatly Appreciated.

Thank you all for your help

Cyric



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No other way around it. I would say the majority of the town should be on board with the idea first. Starting a media blitz ie. flyers, ads, etc. and information sessions would be the way I would go around doing it. But, doing the background work is critical. ie. pros and cons and of course what you are searching for...the legal end of it.

ps. perhaps your community will go bankrupt first ;)

donvino

it takes a ballot initiative,

it takes a ballot initiative, but an okay from the arkansas senate, just like incorporating a town. you will need to get a senator on board. which arkansas town do you live in? i once lived between dardanelle and russellville.

Best way: attrition

Just keep asking the city for county services until everyone agrees the city corporation is useless and it would be cheaper to become just part of the county. That's the easy way. Eeverything else looks like posturing and will meet resistance that can't be overcome for many many many years.

I've been looking into this

I've been looking into this myself. I've talked to lawyers that told me it's practically impossible. BUT, if your town cannot afford their insurance, or they are on a razor thin edge with the state's league of towns and cities, MAYBE just MAYBE you and few fellow patriots can sue them out of existence. That's what a few of us are looking into here. 3 Lawsuits started already....

I could use some help on this as well...

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere".
--Voltaire

It's hard not to be a menace to society when half the population is happy on their knees. - unknown

Wake up the people

Isn't that the only way?

When enough of you want change the change will come.

my brother just passed the bar.

right here in good ole Arkansas! I will run this question by him, I will have to wait for proper timing of course. it would help if I could answer his obvious first questions?....

just a thought. hmmmmm......

You will need legal expertise no matter what

I see two possible options for you, but they both require legal expertise.

1) Ballot initiative, which needs popular support.
2) Find grounds to dissolve the city, like something criminal or fraudulent the city is doing. Most states have provisions for officers, such as the secretary of state or attorney general, to dissolve corporations engaged in criminal activity.

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Unincorporatiing a Town. Lots of ways.

History books are replete with examples. Let me summarize the most common folklore.

  • "When mad, count to 4; when really mad, swear."

If the infestation persists, but ain't real awful...

  • Fire
  • Flood

See Nero, Roman Empire, midlife crisis. Then rebuild.

If you got a Dickens of a problem...

  • War
  • Pestilence
  • Famine

That outta do most any town.

In the meantime, what you you say you show us some reswerarch. You know what you are looking to create. Search for it...

  • Unincorporate Town in Arkansas run down by scallywags (1)
  • Run Arkansas town exquisitely after unincorporation by decent folks

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(1) - scalawag: a white Southerner (often Carpetbagger from the North) who supported Reconstruction policies after the American Civil War (usually for self-interest & related mischief).
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Unsuggested reading - Meaning refine your search for something better than scallywags.

Search = Howto: Unincorporate Arkansas town run down by scallywags.

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  • An individual merely happens to have acquired much of the platted town site. ... Banks don't view run-down outposts as good collateral. ...
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  • Nov 7, 2009 ... I've “run away from my Blackness” because I want better for my .... less than two years ago after living in unincorporated fulton county. ... Midtown from a run-down neighborhood to a sought-after area. ..... These were men of vision; they were consensus builders, not scallywags looting the public ...
    Lawmen
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  • Arkansas contributed manpower primarily to the South but became little more than a ... The glorified gunfighters have names that still echo down the halls of history: Wild .... Kansas, as a wild cattle town had substantially run its course. ...... The unincorporated town had saloons, brothels, a few restaurants, ...

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Question

Do you ever speak so that others can understand what you say?

Yes.

Previously I answered: "How would a person go about unincorporating a town without the help or support of the town council or mayor.?" - Cyric30

My answer was based on very little background information: Arkansas town, population 500.

Each person @ DailyPaul gave reasonable answers. Quite varied. Pretty much correct as to the way things proceed in normal course. Mine was the most comprehensive & encompassing. It was also, perhaps the most useless.

Folks have varied interpretations of the words I write... always been like that.

I suggested some investigation to Cyric30.

For you, I simply answered, "Yes."

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

people from Missouri, have a hard time making up thier minds.

you will have to "show them"

Ha!
LOL!

I am clueless

but, would love to learn about this as well.

Thank you for your post.

Same advice as given moments ago about Arkansas Scallywags.

Add: clueless

Make it personal.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

missouri = synonym?

why would anybody name their state that? hard to reconcile by us folks down the river.

perhaps, maychance, you might "show me"?

Seems I might be in some shallow water here.

Used the word "scallywag" (1) to get Cyric30 thinking about history. Then, drew on world history. Should'a no'ed (known) better. Dredging up history yields lasting solutions to current predicaments by & by. Other times, it just finds me trouble.

Quick answer on the meaning of Missouri, twas the local Indian tribe. Hear tell it means "village of large canoes." We got no truck with Arkansas; you want to borrow a canoe, it's yours. Paddles are in it.

I meant no disrespect to Arkansas (with a silent 'W' except when you say it). Thank you for your diversionary assistance. Speaking of "Show me," which way to the nearest stage coach platform? Or is the train leaving sooner?
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(1) - scalawag: a white Southerner (often Carpetbagger from the North) who supported Reconstruction policies after the American Civil War (usually for self-interest & related mischief).

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

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