2 votes

What will Obama’s “Legal Regime” mean for people speaking out on DP?

When I hear Obama talk about establishing a legal regime to prosecute possible terrorists (and hold them indefinitely) despite tainted evidence I thought “what is to stop them from prosecuting us.” What would we do… they could hold us indefinitely?

Does this legal regime apply to Americans as well?




Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

"I regret that I have but one life to lose for my country"

If Obama wants a fight, he's got one.

YES it applies to Americans, that is a fact.

Indefinite, preventive detention and torture CAN be applied to regular Americans.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Value_Interrogation_Group

Also, Glenn Greenwald offered this spooky yet authoritative clarification recently- Facts and Myths About Obama's Preventive Detention Proposal:
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2009/05/22...

Considering what we know from leaks about the MIAC report and the fact that enough 9/11 first responders are on a "terror watch list" to warrant a formal injunction against their receiving government renumeration, we have to conclude that the government's definition of terrorist is extremely, disturbingly broad. It's only a matter of time.

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

-Martin Niemöller

well of course, we gotta stop

well of course, we gotta stop the domestic terrorist too! How else will we be safe?

And Janet Nap has already issued statements on who potential domestic terrorist are...

Then we do without technology.

Liberty is no dependent on technology but solely on responsible individual able to take a stand.

Free includes debt-free!

yea we can go without tech bc we are agrarians/jeffersonians..

but when do we know when our time is too late? Nobody else has to worry about speaking out because they speak out within the scope allowed… but people like us… with the common law trending towards “I have nothing to hide so forget my rights” the state level of law enforcement will become extremely invasive fairly soon as federal powers merge with state powers.. we are seeing this happen really fast in the criminal realm.. I am in law school and I took 4th amendment law recently, Students do NOT CARE about their rights when it comes to terrorism.. the class truly believes the government is absolute in the area of terrorism because they feel as though it is not a domestic concern.

The words I hear in law school would scare the shit out of you because you would think you live in 1940’s Germany.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

I am proud you are taking a stand.

Let the question be the teacher is a good approach.

Free includes debt-free!

I don't think your fellow students are that worldly.

They are endocrinated and innately won't bite the hand that feeds them ... they are victims of severe detachment from nature. They are more afraid than you. They are prisoners, weak and powerless and of no mind.
Keep up your great intuitive insights brother perma ...

The War on Terra
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/135707
"The clock is ticking; the oil and blood are spewing. How do we respond?"

These sociopathic tyranny sympathizers
The media is owned and ran by the enemies of liberty.

Simple-it always is and always will be.
"You are a den of vipers and thieves."
-I mean to rout you out!
-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us
-The door is wide open, anything can slither in ...

"What is natural to me is these botanical species which interact directly with the nervous system. What I consider artificial is 4 years at Harvard, and the Bible, and Saint Patrick's cathedral, and the sunday school teachings."
~ Timothy Leary
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”

You are in a unique position to

make a difference. Think it through then act!

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya

How unique?

I already spoke out about it and was called a conspiracy theorist by the professor.. she caught on to the what one of my questions was leading to and chose quickly to isolate me as conspiracy theorist before others would catch on (I was questioning how a common law court could allow 4th amendment searches of any kind as long as the technology used was “available in the marketplace” --- the tech used though is only available to military industrial companies)

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

It's probably coming soon down the road.

I believe; however, that the people have had just about enough. Who knows what the trigger will be. Perhaps arresting, and detaining an American DPer and grandmother? SWAt teaming a teenager in his mom's basement? Who knows? But, I wouldn't put anything past this corrupt regime and THEY had better not put anything past our capabilities! (The Egyptian despots were brought down by "facebook" supporters).

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya

That’s what I am worried about..

the president already has an internet kill switch and if any shock and awe campaign starts we will be scattered all over the map with no way to network.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

Killing the internet...

would be all the proof needed to recognize that the regime has "expanded" their war on Americans. It would be time to take up arms and take down this regime and restore America. They are all a bunch of gangsters anyway. We are way over due to water the tree of liberty.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I have one word for you...predator drones. Oh, you think I'm kidding?" Obombya

"If the government takes away the internet,

we take away the government."
~an intuitive global response

There is no reason in the treason of sycophants protecting a sea of lies. They are simply paranoid schizoids.

And never forget, “Humans, despite our artistic pretensions, our sophistication and many accomplishments, owe the fact of our existence to a six-inch layer of topsoil and the fact that it rains.”