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There’s a Secret Patriot Act, Senator Says

You may think you understand how the Patriot Act allows the government to spy on its citizens. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) says it’s worse than you’ve heard.

But Wyden says that what Congress will renew is a mere fig leaf for a far broader legal interpretation of the Patriot Act that the government keeps to itself — entirely in secret. Worse, there are hints that the government uses this secret interpretation to gather what one Patriot-watcher calls a “dragnet” for massive amounts of information on private citizens; the government portrays its data-collection efforts much differently.

“We’re getting to a gap between what the public thinks the law says and what the American government secretly thinks the law says,” Wyden tells Danger Room in an interview in his Senate office. “When you’ve got that kind of a gap, you’re going to have a problem on your hands.”


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Patriot Act

Certain provisions of the contentious Patriot Act have been renewed by Obama. The President is currently visiting Europe. The bill, however, would typically have gone to his desk and not his fax line. The president used an autopen to approve the bill, a system which can correctly reproduce a signature. Here is the proof: President renews Patriot Act from Europe by using a robotic autopen, newstype.com

talking about this now

talking about this now 10:45am est http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN2/

What a coward

Wyden says he “can’t answer” any specific questions about how the government thinks it can use the Patriot Act. That would risk revealing classified information — something Wyden considers an abuse of government secrecy. He believes the techniques themselves should stay secret, but the rationale for using their legal use under Patriot ought to be disclosed.

Great. Thanks a lot. Forget the philosophy, this guy just doesn't want to be a whistleblower because it's dangerous for him to.

Wyden voted for cloture on extending the Patriot Act:

This only ends when people

This only ends when people stop fighting it and start laughing at and ignoring it.

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Chilling. And predictably consistent.

Why does Rand seem to be taking the brunt of the Empire's push on this bill? Why aren't Wyden and Udall standing with him? And Kucinich and Sanders who are so often touted as champions of the people?

Who knows....

There is Democrat in the White House......

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I think that gap he is talking about

existed since 1913 and it only gets wider as time passes. I mean don't you also feel increasingly assaulted like I do, from a government that is supposed to protect US?

It's the Bolshevik Revolution....

all over again. This time the grandkids of the Bolshies are leading the charge.

"Give a man a gun, and he could rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he could rob the world."



Of Course

The obscene document just didn't go quite far enough for our dear leader. A shred of privacy must not remain or we will all be murdered in our beds by the terrorists.
Why cant o tornado hit DC?


Liberty = Responsibility

Because it might hit the only two men in the city

with the same last name

Phil. 4:13

Skip the with the same last

Skip the with the same last name, we know who the only 2 men are in that town.

Maybe we can schedule a rain dance when both are gone, for us with some engin blood in us. Just have to direct it right at the capital... Could be difficult, collateral damage could be high.




"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav


Thanks for the very relevant article.