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Tom Ball Kills Himself in Front of NH Courthouse

Unemployed Massachusetts father was facing jail time for child support:

http://freekeene.com/2011/06/16/thomas-james-ball-self-immol...

His 'last testament':
http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/local/last-statement-sent...



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Group gathers for memorial

By Sarah Trefethen Sentinel Staff SentinelSource.com

One month after a shocking public suicide, the Cheshire County Court House was the site of a quiet morning memorial today.

Thomas J. Ball died in front of the courthouse on June 15, after he lit himself on fire in protest of the court’s handling of his divorce and child custody proceedings.

This morning, friends and sympathizers of Ball’s cause gathered in the same spot to pay their respects.

http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/local/group-gathers-for-m...

Memorial for Thomas James Ball – Friday 7/15, 8:30am @ “Superior Court”

http://freekeene.com/2011/07/14/memorial-for-thomas-james-ba...

The Boston Globe Reports on Self-Immolation of Thomas Ball

The Boston Globe’s Mark Arsenault reports on the self-immolation of Thomas James Ball:

http://freekeene.com/2011/07/11/the-boston-globe-reports-on-...

If you're not afraid to die,

If you're not afraid to die, they can never take your freedom away.

Death hurts, but only for a little while... soon it becomes very relaxing. You almost don't want to come back!

Tom rest in peace

You made a mistake -- but you are not dead.
Your soul is still alive.

I trust your heart & soul.

Now others can make a real difference in America:
http://www.dailypaul.com/169516/boston-logan-airport-tea-par...

in your loving memory.

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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

I like the way you guys hold feet to the fire

Grew up believing in the land of the free -course they intentionally never tell you that freedom is not free. Proud to be part of such a great group of freedom lovers!!

Best wishes for the Ball's kids -terrible tragedy

Slapping maybe a boy on the butt but a girl I can't see it. I've never even yelled at my daughter and would die if I ever hurt her. I did get the belt twice as a kid and was a good kid from then on..

Government is supposed to protect our freedom, our property, our privacy, not invade it. Ron Paul 2007

"Tom Ball" rhymes with "Ron Paul."

That's the only thing that this in common with Dr. Paul or the liberty movement. Delete this trash.

I read his whole essay.... I understand

The trap is a real trap...

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Cheshire Sheriff Destroys Self-Immolation Footage Keene NH

ImmolationAs you probably know, about two weeks ago a man self-immolated in front of Cheshire superior court over his frustration with the “justice” system. The following day, I went to Cheshire sheriff and requested a copy of the footage from the security camera. I was told that it had been given to Keene Police. Apparently while this statement was true, they could have made another copy for me, but instead misdirected me to KPD. I then filed a “91-A” freedom of information request with KPD and was told after a few days that they had returned their copy to the sheriff. I then filed the same request with the sheriff and after a few days was told they had destroyed the copy. This morning I called the sheriff’s office and spoke with Arlene Crowell, the communications director, and she informed me that their security system only retains archives for seven days before writing over it. KPD’s James McLaughlin claims they did not copy the footage.

So, if they are all to be believed, no footage exists of Thomas James Ball immolating himself. If I am wrong and you do have footage, please email me at ian at freekeene.com

I suppose I should have filed the request at the sheriff’s office the following day instead of just asking them for it. I’ve never filed these requests before, so I’m sorry for failing. Of course, I probably would have just gotten the runaround anyway.

So much for Article 8 of the NH Constitution:

[Art.] 8. [Accountability of Magistrates and Officers; Public’s Right to Know.] All power residing originally in, and being derived from, the people, all the magistrates and officers of government are their substitutes and agents, and at all times accountable to them. Government, therefore, should be open, accessible, accountable and responsive. To that end, the public’s right of access to governmental proceedings and records shall not be unreasonably restricted.

http://freekeene.com/2011/07/01/cheshire-sheriff-destroys-se...

Sure,

They destroy all footage within 7 days. Unless they need footage that makes government look good, it will magically appear. Just my guess.

Repeal the Violence Against Woman Act. Biden was WRONG

Tom Ball was a loving, brilliant, dedicated Father and Patriot who knew what had to be done and did it. His 10,000 word letter is flawless,relevant, accurate, honest and necessary. He had true spirit and courage and his life and words must be honored. VAWA is to gender what Germanys 'Race and Resettlement Act' was to Race. We sit back hearing "It takes a village to raise a child" and let Obama pay $310,000,000 in his 'Job Stimulus' to man hating MacDworkian NOW Femi-Fascists to abuse children and destroy the Family in America. 39% 'single mother households' and rapidly rising. 'Child Support' is Child Abuse! The feds are funding Divorce. The police state is rising fast as the Criminal Racketeers in Family Courts run Amok. The pictures of Tom Ball burning were quickly removed and suppressed by the uber Evil Family Court that destroyed his Family. God bless Tom Ball and his children. You will see.....

Yes while some worry about gays and marriage, teh State is

killing marriages with the Violence Against Woman Act.

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this is a very sad story and

this is a very sad story and i feel sympathy for him and his family.

God bless.

The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave.

- Calvin Coolidge

NH man lights himself on fire to protest America’s decline

June 20, 2011 Oxford, England

Hardly anyone seems to have noticed.

Conversely, when a 26-year old Tunisian man lit himself on fire a few months ago after police confiscated the fruits and vegetables he had been selling without a proper permit, it launched a wave of revolution across the Middle East.

People were shocked into taking action… protests and riots swept the region and one regime after another crumbled.

Rather than sparking an “American spring” and shocking US citizens into taking their country back, though, Mr. Ball’s act of self-immolation seems to have been largely ignored. There has been scant coverage (and scant is being extremely generous) of Mr. Ball in the mainstream media, and what little coverage there is generally discredits the man as a troublemaker.

http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/new-hampshire-man-lights-h...

Latest- Tom Ball theme songs!

These songs are really "hot".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sY2rjxq6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM

Tom Ball wasted his life and was a perfect idiot. He gained nothing and lost everything. He is no martyr, no hero and only an example of foolishness and wrong.

His ideas to suggest violence are reprehensible and are inimical to peace.

jesus. there are trolls

jesus. there are trolls running rabid here now.

Wow.

And you're making fun of a man that burned to death. Quite the peacefull cherub, aren't you?

At Youtube I read the comments

and this one seemed interesting.

"The federal war on men can be sumed up with one statement, trading with the enemy act. The federal war on the states was in 1861 with the reconstruction act and the 14th amendment. Question:if war is declaired onn the People what is there objective??? equality in human farming and slavery world wide. george orwells work of 1984 is a classic insight into the mind warfare of the NWO and the matrix is there end game of physical enslavement refined."
deathmarch5 1 day ago

That comment is on target and I think we should all read or reread this book and stop arguing over non relevant issues. It is NOT a war between the sexes. It is a WAR on the mind. I think we need to get the terminology right and the real issues. The courts do not see us as humans but human chattel and this poor man was was caught in the Fed Law noose. They culled him from the herd by a phone call the wife did not want to make, they stripped him from his family, finances and personhood. His self-sacrifice will please his masters as they will view it as holy sacrificial lamb to their god (Almighty Dollar) on their alter the court house steps.

There was also another comment that said "defeat the enemy by using their textbook." This is good judgment and we need lawyers with this man's courage attacking the heart of the system with class action lawsuits and big monetary rewards releasing MEN AND WOMEN from the bondage of the Fed slave owner.

Pointing fingers in the WRONG direction will not lead us out of the pasture or the butcher shop. IMO

"We can see with our eyes, hear with our ears and feel with our touch, but we understand with our hearts."

class action lawsuits

class action lawsuits

makes me think of a 100 million dollar lawsuit against media entities for calling Ron Paul "a marginal candidate with a zero chance to win".

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DISCLAIMER

The deceased man is not a "Hero". Ron Paul is a Hero. The deceased man is not someone to uphold. Ron Paul is.

I fear many who shill for this mans martyrdom are not Ron Paul supporters.

What would Ron Paul say about those claiming the deceased man is a saint? A suicide at that.

To anyone lurking around this strange and awful thread think clearly. No Ron Paul supporter advocates violence against you nor themselves. In defense of liberty and freedom we stand. Not in a killing offensive of others or ourselves to spread an ideology. That's just not very liberty minded. Its also not very smart when you think about the enemy we are up against.

Bottom Line...

The man was facing a debtor's prison. Something we've managed to resurrect from the dark ages. I don't care if he's not a hero. He's definitely not the villain of the story.

@ pseudonym

I feel like I'm missing your point as much as you are missing mine. Actually, I apologize for not being more cogent about the avocation of violence issue. I agree violence is repugnant and self defeating, however, what was said cannot be un-said so going forward we must deal with what we have at hand.

I think overblowing the emotional aspect of his diatribe is undermining his original intent and for that I'll happily put the blame solely on he who is now deceased.

That doesn't change his message. We all know violence is not a desired arbiter of anything and only the state would stoop to such barbary. That's just common sense.

Good

I agree violence is repugnant and self defeating.

I will do the same as you, and happily put the blame solely on he who is now deceased.

As for his "message," I KNOW what the problems are in America and don't need to hear it again from someone whom I simply cannot respect. He hit his 4 year-old daughter in the face, hard enough to draw blood. He failed to provide for this child, then went and killed her father. His treatment of her is abhorrent. Should I overlook that, merely because he was right about the flaws of our justice system? Should I be a Charlie Sheen fan, no matter how many wives he beats up? (Please don't say "yes.")

America is not so devoid of real heroes that we have to resort to glorifying "men" like that.

Peaceful Revolution vs....

As much as I am for peace and non-violence...REALLY?! Peaceful revolution? HOW? Did our founding fathers use that philosophy? How about the phrase "give me liberty or give me death" or "live free or die"...that doesnt mean die by old age you know. It means dying during fighting back against an out of control government. Either we are going to embrace the American spirit as the founders had, or quit using them to quote from. Truth is, the system has made pussies and cowards out of many of you. You talk the talk, but don't walk it out. Whether Mr. Ball was right or wrong, I can't say, not really knowing the situation other than through his statement. BUT, I do embrace the spirit of revolution that he talked about. Of course, its best if it is peaceful- DUH! But there comes a time...and to say differently, is to tell the founders to F%^$ off, that you know better than they did. Why are we so concerned about the right to keep and bear arms? To hunt with? I think NOT! It is to protect our selves and families from tyranny. This form of tyranny that Jefferson advised us to THROW OFF with force!
I feel so bad for Mr Ball and his children. I don't think he's a hero, but I do know he was hurting and as a father who has been denied access to his children myself, I can say I understand his pain.
GROW A PAIR YOU PANSY ASS COWARDS. Or quit claiming you are part of the revolution. Revolutions are NEVER peaceful! Even Gods revolution in the future will be bloodier than them all!

It's now or never...time to hit the streets and spread the truth!

Really? And I quote, "GROW A

Really?

And I quote, "GROW A PAIR YOU PANSY ASS COWARDS."

Mr. 'RonPaulRulz', you have been a part of this community for 3 days and 21 hours, and this is how you introduce yourself to us? Excuse me, sir, but you are on a website that has been inspired by Ron Paul. Dr. Paul would not promote violence or self-immolation to get his point across. Killing himself, in my opinion, was a cowardly act which has robbed his children of a father. You are correct. This man is not a hero. But we are not the cowards. He was.

Jason

Happy Libertarian

Ramzpaul's comments are always great

Great observation of how little MSM coverage this got.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB2C-2dhcsE

i see too many ppl here

i see too many ppl here praising this guy. But can somebody tell me how this action helps freedom and liberty. All i get from this is, when the going gets tough..kill yourself. You do realise we are now one person less than we used to be. I wonder how much help he'll provide from a grave. Hell were all pissed off at the government lets all go do a mass suicide in front of the white house thats will save this country(sarcasm). COWARD. think of your family you jackass.

I won't pass over this

I won't pass over this lightly. Someone burned themself to death for a purpose, and he's right. What more is there than to take heed of the gravity of our situation.

Liberty is universal and this is a beacon some choose to not only ignore, but chastise.

I can't predict the future, but I can guarantee this kind of stuff will become more common.

you may be right on it

you may be right on it becoming more common but more people doing it isn't gonna justify it. how are you actually here promoting and supporting killing yourself as long as theres a "purpose". Go join the taliban you weirdo.

Is that what you think?

It's hard to believe you think I'm promoting suicide.

Good god how can you construe that?

What framework of reality do you even get the traction of thought to assume that I'm saying 'please, those who want to make a statement... burn yourself to death in glory.'

Is that what you think?
If it is then piss off. I have no reason to confer with inane uninformed prattle.

Yes. I'm angry that so many voices are taking this message so trivially. Sorry if I sound irate, but it hurts when people refuse to attempt to put themselves in others' shoes and feel it justified, or worse righteous to denigrate another for what he stood up for despite the mixture of true and false columns.

This man was emotional and vehemently pissed off. What do you expect. A lawyer's testimony?

supporting his actions is

supporting his actions is indirectly promoting it. It implies that as long as its a "worthy cause" its good to do.